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Old February 3rd, 2018, 05:42 AM   #1
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Question What to do with the forum?

As we split into retail and enthusiast shops, I'd like to ask everyone here?

What would you like to see happen to the forum?

Should this forum become the retail forum for Androtics.com, and we start an enthusiast forum for AndroticsLab.com elsewhere?

Or should this forum become the enthusiast forum for AndroticsLab.com, and we start a retail forum for Androtics.com elsewhere?

Of course, we might even want to ask... should Androtics.com even have a forum? In this age of social network style social media, is it even worth it? Should we keep forums for diehard enthusiasts and experimenters only?

As this is the announcement forum, please post comment's in the lounge area under "What To Do with the Forum?"

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Old February 3rd, 2018, 08:58 AM   #2
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Default Re: What to do with the forum?

The above post has the key questions that must be answered to take the forum to where it needs to be next.

I also want to add something ancillary related to this discussion.

It has been inefficient, to say the least, to try to sign up new people for the enthusiast side. Both in time and money. We likely will not actively advertise or promote the enthusiast side again.

If people find it naturally and are sincere about involvement, that may be fine in very select cases. But I think we want to stay away from any activate recruitment efforts. We really do have enough people already that "get" what we want to do here. Adding and educating more seems to not be worth the effort.

Even looking at our last survey results, we see that most people just want to buy product that "works" and not actually get involved in the testing or creation of it.

There's a factor of something like 62:1 ratio of people that want basic retail over being involved in social experimentation.

That's after year upon year upon year of recruiting, and repeatedly saying that at Direct feedback means more than $.

The efforts have not been fruitless, but for the amount of effort necessary, it is sort of sad that we don't have more people on the experimenter's side of the equation.

Even though we anticipate having no more than 800 people initially in Lab, we may be able to make room for slightly more if someone does show extreme & very sincere interest in experimenting. Perhaps 1000 or 1200 ultimately before it begins to lose that intimate environment that was so important making the early days of Direct.

We just need to make sure each slot is filled very, very carefully this time around. We really cannot afford the time, money and effort it takes to mix people with consumer intentions into the test group.

So maybe it's more efficient to advertise for and promote the retail side exclusively.

Maybe it's even better to try to almost "hide" the enthusiast side, if such a thing is even possible on the internet.

If a rare bird somehow finds their way over and they have the methods & philosophy of science ingrained in them, that may be fine to consider for them for involvement in the enthusiast side.

This is obviously something we're going to have to deal with.

Any thoughts?

PS -- A replatforming of the forum itself to something modern will help a lot, as we would like to add volunteers to help with the forum.

Vbulletin itself is sort of a mess, and is hard to train. The platform we're eyeing for migration is much more organized and more self-explanatory.

Crowdsourcing forum management could help enormously in keeping the forums organized.
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Old February 4th, 2018, 08:48 AM   #3
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Default Re: What to do with the forum?

Definitely have 2 forums. One for retail uses and the other dedicated to hardcore dedicated users. The problem with the current set up is it is one big mass of information, merged into many sub sections.

I've been buying from Androtics for almost 10yrs now and would be happy to help mod any new forum. Having a forum is still relevant (even in this day and age.) I can't see the amount of discussions that happen right now transferring on to a format such as Twitter / Facebook.
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Default Re: What to do with the forum?

I also think there should be 2 separate forums. However, for people who are genuinely curious about experimenting (or are just big nerds like me), it would be nice to be able to easily access experimental convos even if they're not (yet) ready to take the plunge and become an advanced user.
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Default Re: What to do with the forum?

I would leave it as it is. Both commercial and enthusiasts could access it. It would be shame to have it disappear in the form it is now...!
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Default Re: What to do with the forum?

When I first found pheromones, I was highly sceptical of what seemed liked ?too good to be true? products but browsing this forum and seeing the real people buying and speaking about the products really sold me on them, which then led me to buying them and becoming a firm user of the products. It?s lead to my friends also becoming androtics customers. So please keep this forum. It adds invaluable authenticity to the actual commercial site.
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Default Re: What to do with the forum?

I'd consider myself more of a testing enthusiasts than someone who just wants retail products that work. So my opinion would be definitely have a 'hidden' enthusiast forum for those serious about it. And then a maybe not so extravagant forum for the others.

I agree, the current forum is like one big mass of info and it seems more and more threads are constantly added with even maybe just a couple posts. There's got to be a better way..
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Default Re: What to do with the forum?

I have to admit I'm more of a reader than a poster on the forum but I would like to see the forum left the way it is.

Probably the reason I don't post more is that I see other people have similar experiences to mine but I still find it fascinating to read other people's experiences with pheromones.
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Default Re: What to do with the forum?

This:

"Or should this forum become the enthusiast forum for AndroticsLab.com, and we start a retail forum for Androtics.com elsewhere?"

Been a while since I peeked into the forum, but I have a bit more leisure at the moment.
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