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Old October 15th, 2005, 05:44 PM   #1
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Default Upset baby remotely (chemically?) triggers breasts to leak

I don't know how to explain it! When Mr Incredible is upset or hungry, my breasts start to spontaneously leak, like they know. Lots of my friends have witnessed and laughed in disbelief at this. IT also happens vice versa. I'll set the kiddo down while I'm in another room cooking or something, and almost always, if I start leaking, I'll simultaneously hear Inky whimper restlessly on the baby monitor.

What is that??

I don't even know how to google this phenomenon. "Spontaneous breast leak when baby is upset" doesn't seem to yield any useful results. Neither does "Pheromone breastfeeding". Psh, all that gets me is the same ole McClintock studies about rubbing armpit soaked cloth under womens' noses, and how/why that "gets them off". Or ponderous meanderings on "whether pheromones actually exist". (To which I always say, "I'm on the front line, dude, and I can definitevelytell you that they exist and are way more powerful than you think", but that's of course at the risk of sounding like a sales letter...)

Anyway. Back on track. During the first month of Inky's life I didn't shower so that I could retain my natural scent at it's most, well, natural. As a result, he and I are so bonded that even the slightest twitch in his mood can fires off an olfactory smoke signal that my milk-producing mechanisms pick up, all on a completely unconscious, chemosensory level.

I've also read (and noticed!) that my exclusively breastfed baby smells a lot better than other babies. HE doesn't exude that formula scent most people so commonly associate with babies. Frankly that scent is dissssgusting. He's definitely exuding a scent signature of optimum health, it's apparent...

What's really interesting is this observation: my gay friend Jason loves Inky's smell. The guy huffs the baby's scalp every time he sees him and instructs EVERYONE ELSE to do the same. He says it's the most beautiful smell he's ever smelled. It's strange. And I haven't quite made sense of it yet.
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Default Re: Upset baby remotely (chemically?) triggers breasts to leak

I'd like to hear some opinions on this!
Im assuming no one knows, since there were no responses?
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Old March 10th, 2006, 12:17 PM   #3
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Gee, I'd like to hear some opinions on it, too!

What do *YOU* think, seaMonkey?

I suppose here I can provide an update...

Here I am months later, baby is now 10 months old. He still breastfeeds almost exclusively. He'll dabble with whatever food he observes us stuffing in our mouths. I feed him a bit of baby food and BOY do I spike it with tons of choline for brain development.

He's brilliant, alert and debonair (in a very cute, flirtatious-with-everyone way). Very social. Very at ease and charismatic. I haven't noticed many babies (if any at all) be very charismatic and charming with people. Most babies I've been with and observed seem wholly disinterested everything... in even living.

And yes, my boobs still quiver and swell when they think he is in trouble.

Now of course, the tender days of our newborn-mother relationship were spent completely "synthetic free" - as in NO external pheromonal supplementation. Since then I've returned to my regimen of super testing, and I've noted that my kiddo favors a TAH laden mother and an Androstenol heavy environment. I spritz on a shot of Spaceland when he is upset or in pain, and what a WONDER 50 micrograms of Alpha -nol can DO!

When I'm wearing TAH his charisma levels rise. Believe you me, if you ever want to learn seduction techniques from a 5-star PUA , watch my 10 month old in action. He'll feed people (cute blond girls, especially) the precise amount of eye contact, sexy pouted lips creased into a swanky smile
, and a flashy show of pearly little stubs, then casually look away or bury his face into my chest. Then he'll very very furtively glance back to see that he's still got their attention. Offer them a playful giggle, only if they'll lavish them with more attention. Oh, the girls eat it all up. He'll reach out to get hugs, kisses, money, cocktails, ponytails... He'll get it all. He has the art of charisma and seduction down.

I suppose that's it for now, but I do want to add something else.

It does seem that babies are very affected by pheromones. Some "research" has claimed otherwise, stating that humans sense pheromones very brilliantly in the first month of life, and then that ability goes dormant until a few months before puberty.

Well...
How, then, Mr Fancy Study, would you describe my baby's TAH charisma spike? Or his finicky sensitivity to -none? His playful, paternally deep love for A314 men? The eerie way that alpha nol can calm him, even when knifelike ivory studs are slicing new holes in his soft gingival tissue??

Some of my friends have tested out varying doses of Instant Openness 2x on calming down their young'uns, and it's also seemed to work eerily well.
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Default Re: Upset baby remotely (chemically?) triggers breasts to leak

I don't know if the milk response that you're having is due to pheromones. There may be other biological explainations.

During my wife's pregnancy we were in a study being done by Dr. Marshall H. Klaus (has some interesting publications out there...) on bonding between mothers and newborns. There is some very intense neurochemical bonding going on in the first few hours after birth. Babies can recognize their mother's scent quite early and mothers can be affected, like you are, by their child only. In other words, another child crying wouldn't be likely to trigger your milk letdown reflex but your child certainly would. The cry works even over considerable distance - at least it did with my wife.

At the time there were some theories being discussed as to the imprinting going on. FWIW, I can confirm massive pupil dialation during the bonding period. Looked interesting, but I was told that it wasn't something fathers got to share in. That special bonding can exist only between birth mother and child.

I imagine that pheromones could affect babies, but when my 8 year old daughter was a newborn I hadn't discovered pheromones yet. Alpha -nol definitely affects her. Anything else, I don't know yet.
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The cry works even over considerable distance - at least it did with my wife.
Oh, indubitably! Still happens, too, as a 10 month old. I can, haha, feel it in my boobs when he even thinks about fussing.

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here is some very intense neurochemical bonding going on in the first few hours after birth
Yes, I remember reading this in Liedloff;s Continuum Concept - a book I'd poured over during pregnancy. I'm very much a continuum concepter, attachment parent, all those other buzzwords. To this day there isn't more than 20 minutes we aren't within 6 feet of each other. We co-sleep, I carry him everywhere. No crib, no strollers. We're practically cemented together.

Hahahahaha, so much so that I call the scent he exudes "Androstababyol". Is that silly or what!!!!

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Alpha-nol definitely affects her. Anything else, I don't know yet.
Ooh, what are the effects on your daughter? And ooh OOH, do you have Instant Shine , and have you used that on her? My kiddo particularly LOVES Shine and A314 men... when his daddy is wearing them I notice he just plunges his whole face into daddy's chest and stays there cooing like a little animal.

There's been some banter bat around in one of the womens' forum posts about what the effects of mones have been on our kids. You should give it a looksee!
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I don't know how to explain it! When Mr Incredible is upset or hungry, my breasts start to spontaneously leak, like they know. Lots of my friends have witnessed and laughed in disbelief at this. IT also happens vice versa. I'll set the kiddo down while I'm in another room cooking or something, and almost always, if I start leaking, I'll simultaneously hear Inky whimper restlessly on the baby monitor.

What is that??

I don't even know how to google this phenomenon. "Spontaneous breast leak when baby is upset" doesn't seem to yield any useful results. Neither does "Pheromone breastfeeding". Psh, all that gets me is the same ole McClintock studies about rubbing armpit soaked cloth under womens' noses, and how/why that "gets them off". Or ponderous meanderings on "whether pheromones actually exist". (To which I always say, "I'm on the front line, dude, and I can definitevelytell you that they exist and are way more powerful than you think", but that's of course at the risk of sounding like a sales letter...)

Anyway. Back on track. During the first month of Inky's life I didn't shower so that I could retain my natural scent at it's most, well, natural. As a result, he and I are so bonded that even the slightest twitch in his mood can fires off an olfactory smoke signal that my milk-producing mechanisms pick up, all on a completely unconscious, chemosensory level.

I've also read (and noticed!) that my exclusively breastfed baby smells a lot better than other babies. HE doesn't exude that formula scent most people so commonly associate with babies. Frankly that scent is dissssgusting. He's definitely exuding a scent signature of optimum health, it's apparent...

What's really interesting is this observation: my gay friend Jason loves Inky's smell. The guy huffs the baby's scalp every time he sees him and instructs EVERYONE ELSE to do the same. He says it's the most beautiful smell he's ever smelled. It's strange. And I haven't quite made sense of it yet.
LOL I've spent 12 years total either PG or lactating, so I know what you're talking about! If I heard any baby cry (even in a movie) the respose could be triggered; also if it had been a certain amount of time since the last feeding, I'd leak (because Iwas full) and my baby would be feeling pretty hungry right about that time- the "supply and demand" relationship with breastfeeding can be an amazingly synchronized experience!
As far as the smell of a newborns head- a friend in Iceland called it a "holy" scent! Something very awesome yet "cuddly" about it- like a fuzzy warm puppy - hard to explain but you know what I mean, I'm sure
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Default Tell Harris to replicate that baby smell, a sure winner !

whatever the babies are wafting off their bodies is for sure designed for an adult response... in a phero formula the result could be stunning... would women spontaneously want to breastfeed ME ?...

Hey guy, you look hungry, my breasts are full, take a load off me willya ?

Mmmm, sure, ok, do you think anybody will mind ?

Naaaah, we're in a public place, people do all kinds of things in public, they're too busy yakking on their cell phones to notice....

Nursing bra, I see.... love the easy access trapdoors in front, pop 'er open, well be out of here under five minutes...

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Oxytocin???

Letdown reflex – in lactating (breastfeeding) mothers, oxytocin acts at the mammary glands, causing milk to be 'let down' into a collecting chamber, from where it can be extracted by sucking at the nipple. Sucking by the infant at the nipple is relayed by spinal nerves to the hypothalamus. The stimulation causes neurons that make oxytocin to fire action potentials in intermittent bursts; these bursts result in the secretion of pulses of oxytocin from the neurosecretory nerve terminals of the pituary gland.

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I don't know how to explain it! When Mr Incredible is upset or hungry, my breasts start to spontaneously leak, like they know. Lots of my friends have witnessed and laughed in disbelief at this. IT also happens vice versa. I'll set the kiddo down while I'm in another room cooking or something, and almost always, if I start leaking, I'll simultaneously hear Inky whimper restlessly on the baby monitor.

What is that??

I don't even know how to google this phenomenon. "Spontaneous breast leak when baby is upset" doesn't seem to yield any useful results. Neither does "Pheromone breastfeeding". Psh, all that gets me is the same ole McClintock studies about rubbing armpit soaked cloth under womens' noses, and how/why that "gets them off". Or ponderous meanderings on "whether pheromones actually exist". (To which I always say, "I'm on the front line, dude, and I can definitevelytell you that they exist and are way more powerful than you think", but that's of course at the risk of sounding like a sales letter...)

Anyway. Back on track. During the first month of Inky's life I didn't shower so that I could retain my natural scent at it's most, well, natural. As a result, he and I are so bonded that even the slightest twitch in his mood can fires off an olfactory smoke signal that my milk-producing mechanisms pick up, all on a completely unconscious, chemosensory level.

I've also read (and noticed!) that my exclusively breastfed baby smells a lot better than other babies. HE doesn't exude that formula scent most people so commonly associate with babies. Frankly that scent is dissssgusting. He's definitely exuding a scent signature of optimum health, it's apparent...

What's really interesting is this observation: my gay friend Jason loves Inky's smell. The guy huffs the baby's scalp every time he sees him and instructs EVERYONE ELSE to do the same. He says it's the most beautiful smell he's ever smelled. It's strange. And I haven't quite made sense of it yet.

Interesting about the smell of a new baby's head: my friend Katya from Iceland (side note: where they really esteem children and family ) says it is a "holy" scent
and I've noticed some of the 'nomes have an undercurrent of that scent of a newborns fuzzy little head.
Also is the reason "baby powder" was a scent that was rated as very sexy because of hte association withthe scent of babies who usually wear it? Is it the connection w fertility itself (ie having a baby on hand means someone was fertile) or is it the scent of a newborn itself, or ???
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