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michaeltheman September 11th, 2017 06:57 PM

Advice for a beginner?
 
Hello! I've never used these before and I didn't even know things like this exists. I read some of these reports and I've gotten the same results as many claim to get from the pheromones, but through natural means. I usually get them after I had a heavy work out and dont shower properly OR the most successful one is when I haven't ejaculated for 2 weeks (not even through wet dreams).

When I haven't ejaculated for that long I get looks and IOIs from women like they want to eat me alive, it's pretty scary. I also get a strong feeling that men feel intimidated by me , they either respect me or they flat out hate my guts for just being nearby even though i'm a pretty kind and polite guy.
Although this effect ends any time I get a wet dream. Then I have to wait another 2 weeks without ejaculation for it to come to effect , during this it would be pretty cool to use some phero sprays.

What are the best combos I should get as a beginner? Mainly to use at work and dayplaces to get people to come up to me, get people to look at me (females preferrably). I'm not much of a clubber/party guy but I do want something that creates sexual attraction from the other gender towards me.

Also where do I purchase these pheromones?

michaeltheman September 11th, 2017 09:48 PM

Re: Advice for a beginner?
 
Anyway! I just bought the A314, the Ammo (world edition) and IH!

How should I mix this? At work / when I want female attraction ?

teressa9 September 12th, 2017 07:02 AM

Re: Advice for a beginner?
 
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Originally Posted by michaeltheman (Post 572052)
Hello! I've never used these before and I didn't even know things like this exists. I read some of these reports and I've gotten the same results as many claim to get from the pheromones, but through natural means. I usually get them after I had a heavy work out and dont shower properly OR the most successful one is when I haven't ejaculated for 2 weeks (not even through wet dreams).

When I haven't ejaculated for that long I get looks and IOIs from women like they want to eat me alive, it's pretty scary. I also get a strong feeling that men feel intimidated by me , they either respect me or they flat out hate my guts for just being nearby even though i'm a pretty kind and polite guy.
Although this effect ends any time I get a wet dream. Then I have to wait another 2 weeks without ejaculation for it to come to effect , during this it would be pretty cool to use some phero sprays.

What are the best combos I should get as a beginner? Mainly to use at work and dayplaces to get people to come up to me, get people to look at me (females preferrably). I'm not much of a clubber/party guy but I do want something that creates sexual attraction from the other gender towards me.

Also where do I purchase these pheromones?

Hi MichaelTheMan! Very interesting post. Based on the purchases you've made and my understanding of the pheromones so far, mixing the A314 and Ammo would be the best mix, although a hint of Instant Honesty couldn't hurt either (unless you're not trying to do much talking). I'm sure experienced posters will come and provide additional information not only about the pheromones you purchased, but also the best mixture and amount to start off with. Also, you may want to visit the Men's Journals posts as well as the post for Men's Tips and Tricks in the meantime. Don't forget to come back and let us know how it worked for you and WELCOME!!!

Regarding business settings, just be careful with your expectations regarding using pheremones and in which setting. Using it at work may or may not produce the results you're looking for because people still have the ability to control themselves and considering issues like sexual harassment, they may restrain themselves even more.

michaeltheman September 12th, 2017 09:13 AM

Re: Advice for a beginner?
 
I dont even want sex as i live a celibate life until i have things in order (im a firm believer in that retaining semen increases my focus and strenght - both mental and physical, by a crapton) but I need to practice my conversational skills with women, especially when there is sexual tension. So in that area im just going to be a teasing manwhore but never go all the way lol.

At work i find the alpha and IH could be very useful as i work in a suburb trying to get problematic kids integrated to the labormarket. I sometimes act a psychiatrist to them so im hoping they can open up, trust me and feel more motivated. All in all i plan to use the mones for self improvement and for the good of others - not to take advantage of anyone. If the mones work. But i do get similar results naturally at times but inconsistently so i dont doubt they can work

michaeltheman September 12th, 2017 05:47 PM

Re: Advice for a beginner?
 
This is fascinating! I read around in this forum and saw a word called "DIHL" frequently used. I read it and its exactly what happens when I abstain from ejaculating for 2 weeks! So now i know its my pheromones and that the woman is aroused. I always called it "the retard look" in my head because they look so confused and just stares at me.

I wonder if my natural pheromones are of a very sexual nature then. I am oversexual as a person yet i refrain from sex.

Jdub September 12th, 2017 08:44 PM

Re: Advice for a beginner?
 
Hey Michaeltheman, can't believe I'm just barely seeing this

Yes you are right, exercise without showering and prolonged time without ejaculation certainly equates to higher pheromone levels for certain mones. Chances are these are elevated androstenone levels the most. Androstenone is the male pheromone responsible for sexuality in women and aggression in men. Hence the results you see.
Sometimes I love using my natural mones for attraction but frankly they will never compare to wearing additional mones. Wearing mones is a whole new ball game it's more precise and there are far more option effect-wise. Plus it's nice to be freshly showered and get crazy good results.

Quote:

Anyway! I just bought the A314 , the Ammo ( world edition ) and IH !

How should I mix this? At work / when I want female attraction ?
It is always recommended to test each product individually to get a feel of each and to know your 'sweet spot'... before doing mixes...
with that being said, A314 will probably mostly get you respect and if there is attraction it should be older women predominately. Ammo is very good for general attraction especially at your age. IH is yes a good product to be open and talk about deep stuff but it also invokes closeness.
In theory, you should be totally fine wearing all three at once. But if it were me and my object was to see how the ladies respond I would try just Ammo first, then ammo/IH.

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At work i find the alpha and IH could be very useful as i work in a suburb trying to get problematic kids integrated to the labormarket.
Yes definitely. Maybe not so much the IH but definitely the A314.

michaeltheman September 12th, 2017 08:51 PM

Re: Advice for a beginner?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdub (Post 572067)
Hey Michaeltheman, can't believe I'm just barely seeing your intro post.

Yes you are right, exercise without showering and prolonged time without ejaculation certainly equates to higher pheromone levels for certain mones. Chances are these are elevated androstenone levels the most. Androstenone is the male pheromone responsible for sexuality in women and aggression in men. Hence the results you see.
Sometimes I love using my natural mones for attraction but frankly they will never compare to wearing additional mones. Wearing mones is a whole new ball game it's more precise and there are far more option effect-wise. Plus it's nice to be freshly showered and get crazy good results.



It is always recommended to test each product individually to get a feel of each and to know your 'sweet spot'... before doing mixes...
with that being said, A314 will probably mostly get you respect and if there is attraction it should be older women predominately. Ammo is very good for general attraction especially at your age. IH is yes a good product to be open and talk about deep stuff but it also invokes closeness.
In theory, you should be totally fine wearing all three at once. But if it were me and my object was to see how the ladies respond I would try just Ammo first, then ammo/IH.



Yes definitely. Maybe not so much the IH but definitely the A314.

Thanks for your reply! I just made a new thread and you basically answered all my questions in that thread with this post!

mobocaster September 12th, 2017 08:52 PM

Re: Advice for a beginner?
 
I attraction is your goal, then Ammo alone is probably the best place to start.

Find your sweet spot (effective dose) by testing each product individually and once you have that, you can expand testing further to find your dose range over a wider range of situations.

At work, A314 and later A314/IH are probably the best choices but IH can be used with Ammo when you want to tune it to get closer to someone subsequent dates and the like.

Steering your Ammo with a small amount of A314 is a proven mix at a good range of ages and i nyour thirties around similar aged women, you are into the range where they do tend to tunein to it on an attractive level. Younger women may get the fatherly/authority vibe but not the attraction, unless its well steered (eg with Ammo or IS)

Natural phero output does vary significantly between individuals young fit men do tend to produce more Androstenone, the main sexual phero, whilst fatter/heavy drinking men tend to produce themore social Androstenols as a primary. But you do get individual exceptions at any age ans the same with women, some will defy all recieved wisdom when it comes to pheros, so its important to keep your wits about you and watch for what works best for her alone. :)

One thing, whilst mones will help you get attention, you will need to liveup to their signal to get the best results ,so do try to project congruent attractive or professional status behaviour to support your mix. This may be as simple as eye contact or body language but with your current products, social engagement or authorotative conversation will go a long way to help you reach your goals.

Oh and holdingon too long ain't good for you. long dry spells must be top of the reasons people come here and its good to get rid of them with some proper sex! :D

michaeltheman September 12th, 2017 09:00 PM

Re: Advice for a beginner?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mobocaster (Post 572070)
I attraction is your goal, then Ammo alone is probably the best place to start.

Find your sweet spot (effective dose) by testing each product individually and once you have that, you can expand testing further to find your dose range over a wider range of situations.

At work, A314 and later A314/IH are probably the best choices but IH can be used with Ammo when you want to tune it to get closer to someone subsequent dates and the like.

Steering your Ammo with a small amount of A314 is a proven mix at a good range of ages and i nyour thirties around similar aged women, you are into the range where they do tend to tunein to it on an attractive level. Younger women may get the fatherly/authority vibe but not the attraction, unless its well steered (eg with Ammo or IS)

Natural phero output does vary significantly between individuals young fit men do tend to produce more Androstenone, the main sexual phero, whilst fatter/heavy drinking men tend to produce themore social Androstenols as a primary. But you do get individual exceptions at any age ans the same with women, some will defy all recieved wisdom when it comes to pheros, so its important to keep your wits about you and watch for what works best for her alone. :)

One thing, whilst mones will help you get attention, you will need to liveup to their signal to get the best results ,so do try to project congruent attractive or professional status behaviour to support your mix. This may be as simple as eye contact or body language but with your current products, social engagement or authorotative conversation will go a long way to help you reach your goals.

Oh and holdingon too long ain't good for you. long dry spells must be top of the reasons people come here and its good to get rid of them with some proper sex! :D

Thanks for the input! I'm very fit for my age with a full on 6 pack and great physique, so I guess that is what creates these pheromones of sexuality.
Where do the pheromones come from btw? I've read it's from the balls? I have no idea though, where they are produced

I however strongly disagree with long dry spells not being good. Nothing has made me feel so euphoric, spiritually in tune with life and well connected with everything like I have when on a long retention streak. Not to mention the feeling of discipline, I've actively turned down sex a couple of times just because of retaining my semen, it probably sounds weird as fuck but it almost gives me a sort of a rush/high that I can fight my strong sexual urges and defeat it by pure discipline.

The taoist-men/yogis from thousands of years ago were definitely on to something when it comes to holding in your semen! But that's another topic :D


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