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Old December 29th, 2005, 06:02 AM   #1
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Thumbs up Instant Openness, Instant Honesty, Instant Shine, Instant Female Magic, A314!!!

I just went nuts and ordered Instant openess, Instant Honesty , Instant Shine , Instant first magic and A314 !! I will be sure to keep you guys informed as to the effect of these products on me and I will be sure to extensively test these! I am Type O negative. In 2006 I have some major goals and one of the things I am experimenting with to reach those goals are pheromones. Personality improvements, appearance, clothes, lots of time in the gym, and picking up new hobbies rounds out the list.
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Old December 29th, 2005, 05:18 PM   #2
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on new years eve try this:
rub 2 drops of a314 between your wrists and cover it with 1 spray of IFM , then 2 sprays of instant shine to your chest, 1 spray of instant honesty to both sides of your neck and 2 sprays of instant openess to your hair.

you will be the first person ever to try that mix out but probably won't be able to report back effectively because it is required to finish off the mix by drinking 2 shots of patron every hour on the hour until you pass out and have people lining up to make sharpie drawings on your face.

anyway, if you aren't brave enough to pioneer that mix it sounds like you have enough stuff there to create some of your own.

have fun and have a safe new year
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Old December 29th, 2005, 05:45 PM   #3
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That sounds like a solid mix but perhaps an OD ? I dont think it would be because there are a lot of stabilizers in that mix and it has very little none in it. I wonder if I could get away with a little none too to or if I even need it???
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ah, i was kinda sorta joking about that mix (well except of course for the patron ). you might OD the entire room or you might leave with all the women plus a few uncertains, it is your duty Fire and Ice, to be the everything but the kitchen sink mix pioneer and report back with your results.
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Heres the thing about that mix though. There is very little None in it. As long as the nol does not convert It should be ok. The alpha works as a stabalizer and if I keep it at two drops I cant imagine that being too much with the nol . IFM and IS are the wildcards. Although both are also suppose to support and work well to improve mixes. So if I keep it to one shot each and had 2 drops of A314 and can pull it off smell wise....that remains to be seen....than I am willin to give it a shot....probably not on a big night like that though!!lol
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than I am willin to give it a shot....probably not on a big night like that though!!lol
oh come on man, live a little. how many NYE parties will you ever get to hit up in your lifetime? do it for us, man!
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Old January 2nd, 2006, 06:47 PM   #7
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LOL!! Well I did not get my order yet (expect it early this week). I plan to try a similar combo this coming weekend. During the regular week I will look to test them individually. Regardless I had a great new years weekend (used perception which along with Chikara seem to be the best ones I have found so far) This week I will be running tests on Instant Openess during the work week. I will just keep providing tests and test results in this thread and by the time I am done I will have tested various combinations over prolonged periods in various circumstances and environments.
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Old January 4th, 2006, 05:54 AM   #8
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Ok well today I got the mones in. This is a long post and it is a plya by play. If you have like 15 minutes to read it then go for it. If not you may get annoyed. I did bold all the important points. The first thing that I noticed is that the bottles were all very well designed and impressive looking. Everything was a spray bottle with the exception of the A314 . None of them smell strongly at all...which makes me a little concerned because I know the smell of mones and they seem to have no mone smell at all. The smells they do have are very subtle and pleasant. Another big thing I noticed was that the A314 has a well dispersed method for dosage drops. These bottles truely are well designed and allow for accurate dosage readings. This is important and very well done.

I was so excited that I did not stick to my plan to just test Instant Openess. lol. I will do that starting tomorrow though. Anyway I pumped two drops out of A314 and put it on my neck. I also took a spray of Instant Openess to my hair. For good measure I pumped a spray of Instant Honesty on my neck. Went in to schedule my hair and was immediately given undivided attention and treated well and professionally. I was asked if it would be ok to have my appointment at such and such time. Nothing really out of the ordinary with anything but the treatment was very formal and polite. One big thing I did notice though was that I had kind of a buzz that was like drinking but more cool calm and controlled. I had a great sense of well being.

Next I went to LL BEAN. I noticed that people tended to pay quick attention to me and treat me very formally. Again not necessarily out of the ordinary cause it was LL BEAN. The cashier struck up a conversation and appeared to enjoy my company. She asked me where I lived and started telling me how she used to live around there. She complemented the outfit I picked out. There were also some girls with their boyfriends and without that held eyecontact with me and some that smiled. All of this stuff was acceptable and good but really out of the ordinary.

Stopped in at Dunkin donoughts to buy some stuff and ask directions. I was treated very formally and they seemed eager to help me find my way. They were very polite and helpful. Again nothing too out of the ordinary. Collectively though everyone was being very helpful friendly and respectful to me. This is not necessarily out of the ordinary but collectively it was interesting.

Drove back for my haircut but before I went in I lost control and decided to add Instant Shine to the mix. I sprayed it in my hand and spread it on my face. It definately made me feel good and made me feel a calm and cool confidence and well being. Went in for haircut and the haircut girl started gabbing and never stopped. I was laughin she was laughin she dumped everything told me all kinds of things some of them personal. It was one of the best conversations I have ever ever had with someone I dont know. It was incredible. What really excited me was not only how great a mood I was in but how much more talkative I was. I was very talkative and comfortable where I am usually a bit self conscious or on the quiet side with strangers. As for her she was having a blast talking to me and just laughing at everything.

Went to the mall and people are smiling at me. This is different than when I have none because its more subtle. I like it better though. Its more of a feel good respect type vibe I was feeling. Went in to American Eagle and they took back a fleece for me and held it to the counter. Again everyone treating me very formally. I asked the guy if I could leave my fleece there while I left and come back to look around later and he was like "Of course you can" In a tone that was as if to say "You can do whatever you want who am I to tell you what to do". Went into Filenes and ended up asking a girl where there was a cash register. She walked me to it and hand delivered it and even instructed the cashier to my service and helped him ring things up. She didnt leave till she saw to it I was all set. Went back into american eagle and collected some stuff to try on. Everyone continued to treat me very respectfully and when they talked thier tones and words just conveyed that they felt I was important....Its subtle stuff but its consistant and it just felt good. It was the equivalent of having a smoot good day. I found a shirt and it was a little small but there was no larger size. I came out and asked the girls that work there if they thought it was too small. She told me that if I wanted to dry it it would be too small and she would find me a larger one. I told her there were no larger ones but she insisted on looking. She came back with a large in the shirt I wanted but she brought me another shirt and said she wanted me to try it cause I would look good in it. It was the better shirt so I went with it. When I came out later all eyes and attention were on me from the staff. They asked me how it went and if I was happy with my clothes. The girl that rung me up remembered that I had brough a fleece in earlier and was like OMG they are so lucky I was still here to remember that!!! On the way outta the mall the shake guy flagged me down to give me a free shake!!

So that is my update. Obviously its too early to judge what does what or consistancy or anything really. I will say that I had a great day. Whether it was coinsidence or not is still to be determined. I would have to say that I cannot believe that the haircut could have possibly been coinsidence. I had a great day and I did indeed feel like I had a suit on and people were friendly too. I will keep the updates coming but will probably not give any more play by plays unless its something I feel is valuable or interesting.
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how much instant shine did you use? would you say the smiling was associated with shine, and wasn't there before?

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I've been quite busy the past few days, but just popping onto the forum real quick.

Glad to see all your nice results!

Thanks for all the nice comments on the design. Every aspect of the products took tremendous amounts of time and research to produce.

The mones definitely do have a scent, especially in A314 (anyone with the white cap version can attest to that). That's part of the reason light fragrance is added. The Neroli in the sprays is excellent at masking odors in a pleasant way, as all citrus notes are.

Pheromones help frame you (much like looks do or your clothing)... They "set you in a certain light" and introduce you before you introduce yourself with words or physical gestures. That's what they do from the getgo, and you generally want to be act congruently with the pheromones (i.e., act friendly when you're wearing friendly pheromones, act authoritative when you're wearing A314 , etc.).

Beyond that, there's also a ramp up that takes up to 15 or so (some mones take longer, 30-45 minutes) from your first contact with someone, where rapport and emotional charges buildup and start to peak.

So there's at least 2 stages of "pheromonal magic" (that I've noticed, anyway): the instant framing (like the first note of a song), and the slower burn/warming up (the buildup of a song)... the latter being what some might even all enchantment, depending on the mix.

You especially notice the "enchantment" on dates, when getting your hair cut, longer buying experiences, walks. All the social experiences that last for more than a few seconds or a minute. It's great that you tested the way you did, as you exposed yourself to both pheromonal stages.

Aside from occasional buildup issues (mostly with -none), pheromones are pretty consistent when dosed. Mones + a good attitude will take you far.

Again, they won't always work as well when you're incongruent (wearing happy pheromones while frowning, -none while acting submissive, etc.).

Congruency is something picked up mostly by the unconscious mind (the part of your mind that beats your heart, blinks your eyes is the same part that makes snap judgements about people). Incongruency (which basically means "mismatching") tends to generate actual feelings of unease in people around you. That's how we tend to experience the "conclusions" of our unconscious minds sizing things up... as feelings or "intutions". Feelings and intuitions are the tips of the unconscious iceberg that peak through and get our conscious attention.

So, to sum up your day in a how to sort of format, your initial formula was:
2 drops A314 to the neck (good area)
1 spray Instant Honesty to neck (might want to try wrists next time)
1 spray Instant Openness to hair (a GREAT place for it!!)

Then later on...
1 sprays Instant Shine to face (it'll really affect you when applied anywhere near the face)

Approximately how many hours did this occur over? If you have a sense of it, I'd like to know how long 'till the mones started generating good effects, and then how long those effects lasted.

And, of course, the obligatory question: what flavor shake did you get? I sure love getting freebies and discounts from mones .

Heck, I just returned from a quick breakfast wearing an experimental version of Ammo (v1.4), and I got most of my breakfast free. I was even brought an extra order of fries and onion rings "by accident", like I was some sort of food magnet!

Ammo v1.4 is an unusual social mix because the waitress talked to everyone but me (overt avoidance), but I got the freebies. Interesting. It's not meant as a broadband social mix, though, so it could be doing exactly what I want. Have to test it out in different social contexts.

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