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Old January 4th, 2006, 04:53 PM   #11
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how much instant shine did you use? would you say the smiling was associated with shine, and wasn't there before?

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1 SPRAY....Yes absolutely. I really like it but again....gotta test longer its 1 day here!
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Old January 4th, 2006, 05:28 PM   #12
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The mones definitely do have a scent, especially in A314 (anyone with the white cap version can attest to that). That's part of the reason light fragrance is added. The Neroli in the sprays is excellent at masking odors in a pleasant way, as all citrus notes are.



Approximately how many hours did this occur over? If you have a sense of it, I'd like to know how long 'till the mones started generating good effects, and then how long those effects lasted.

And, of course, the obligatory question: what flavor shake did you get? I sure love getting freebies and discounts from mones . [/quote]
I actually put the shine on a couple hours into the experiment after Dunkin Donughts and before the haircut. I felt a peppy high from the first application of Honesty Openness and A314 ...felt real happy. Also to note was that I felt very cool calm and collected. My movements all had purpose I felt together. Now I normally do not feel like a shambles but I really felt everything was in order and had a great sense of well being. The Shine just made me feel more carefree and confident but it was a subtle reserved confidence. The kind that is not over the top where you just know it and dont even feel the need to show it. I also noticed that time would slow down slightly.

My free shake was strawberry. I have noticed immediate reactions within close range with people during my mone career. However the reactions that are most attributable to mones and are the most over the top do tend to be over a prolonged exposure. I wonder why for some it is immediate while others require time? I agree with the congruent statment to a degree too. However I do notice that friendly mones will reduce the negative vibe you may be sending out on a bad day. so they still help...just not as much.

Also by the way...the feeling good lets up a little bit around 45 minutes into the application but it stayed with me to a degree until I went to bed 8 hours later.
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Old January 4th, 2006, 05:41 PM   #13
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The calm, cool and collected probably came from the A314 more than the Instant Honesty .

The good feeling let up after 45 minutes of wearing A314 +Instant Honest or Instant Shine ?

With myself, I've noticed over the top confidence at about 4-5 sprays of Shine.

Again, when it comes to instant effects vs. prolonged, I think the music metaphor works very well.

Music is very linear, and can hook you on the very first note. Some people it doesn't hook until the first chorus. Others might need to listen to the whole song first, then find it echoing in their heads. Some people even find themselves mouthing the words to songs they don't even like, but it somehow "hooked" them nonetheless.

Yet others might not notice those kinds of songs at all, instead preferring long pieces of music. There's not as many popular examples, as most people prefer songs that just a few minutes long. But there is classical, or, in modern times, something more like anthemic "trance". With that kind of long music, the first note can grab you, but it's the complex movement of notes over time that really moves you and makes you cry tears of joy.

So bam... something sucks you in, then you get a full, encompassing effect later.

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Bam... Something gets your attention, and you get a cascading cresendo of joy later on.

Why it works like this is why anything in the body works like this. While we're capable of responding physiologically in an immediate way (we almost instantly size people up, for instance, on any number of conscious and unconscious data), there are some chemical changes in the body that take many minutes.... some, even hours.

It's like getting to know people for the first time, without pheromones. They may like you for something small at first, like the way you dress or your smile, but it's not like they're going to seriously laugh or cry or have any other major human response to you the very first second they meet you. It takes time. Conversation.

Making love, you don't orgasm the first second, either. The first second of contact might be great, but the full effects take time.

I've yet to notice pheromones that take hours to achieve full effect, though. There seems to be about a 10-15 minute average for most mixes, and a 30-45 minute max to achieve peak for some of the experimentals.

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Old January 4th, 2006, 05:49 PM   #14
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With instant Openess/Honesty there is an initial spike in feeling. I feel it right now and its been almost 2 hours... The spike settles down and becomes a reserved underlying feeling that stays with you. The instant shine I am not sure how long it lasts. I can tell you that all of them alter you to some degree for an indefinate period....its just that the emotions it causes in me tend to stabalize and become more refined and laid back after the first hour or two. Today though it seems like that spike is staying longer than on yesterdays attempt. I can tell you this. For the second day in a row I feel real confident and good after application. If this stuff can make others feel this way with me than this is great stuff!
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With instant Openess/Honesty there is an initial spike in feeling. I feel it right now and its been almost 2 hours... The spike settles down and becomes a reserved underlying feeling that stays with you. The instant shine I am not sure how long it lasts. I can tell you that all of them alter you to some degree for an indefinate period....its just that the emotions it causes in me tend to stabalize and become more refined and laid back after the first hour or two. Today though it seems like that spike is staying longer than on yesterdays attempt. I can tell you this. For the second day in a row I feel real confident and good after application. If this stuff can make others feel this way with me than this is great stuff!
Yes, many people will feel good around you with Instant Openness and Shine. Some of the impact is instant, some takes place over time.

I've noticed somewhat of a crowding effect that occur with Shine, because healthy people NATURALLY move toward what makes them feel good.
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I've yet to notice pheromones that take hours to achieve full effect, though. There seems to be about a 10-15 minute average for most mixes, and a 30-45 minute max to achieve peak for some of the experimentals.

beta -nol seems to take a bit longer than most to really kick in?
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Wink have noticed this as well

One of the great mistakes is to assume that you will see results with 5-15 minutes. Sometimes you do, sometimes it appears that nothing is happening. "Appears" is the operant concept here... one alternate possibility is that most people are experiencing life stresses on one or more levels and their thinking becomes locked into various thought loops and conceptual rigidities around those stresses. Few people are so free and elastic that they can reset their emotional states on the fly. In many cases there seems to be a latency period where the mind reorients itself in preparation for a new internal context.... i.e. internally stressing out about work, relationship, health, family, then dropping all of that, or processing it in a new and different way, then becoming more externally focused. Or there are some types who are emotionally unavailable, self absorbed either through mild depression or egotism or just wrapped up in their head movies that take a while to snap out of it and join the universe. Sometimes this is the result of a combination of good social interaction skills and pheromones, where the pheromone by itself can't turn a sow's ear into a silk purse... OTOH, intelligent use of pheromones will, over time, enhance the social skills of the pheromone user because of the increased depth of interaction... so there is a synergistic learning curve here, you may attribute your success over time to the pheromones, where you may be overlooking your own increased social competence... then think, some months later, wow, this new pheromone is so good, and maybe it is, while you've gotten better too. I now think of pheromones as a role or a mask that deepens and intensifies some of my own qualities and allows me to concentrate my psychic energy in a very focused or productive way, and with others these energy foci may take hours or days to fully develop.
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suppose you have an amazingly open, deep and almost intimate discussion with a girl you just met (or at least don't know very well). what do you think goes through her mind afterwards? i mean i could imagine she could be left with a very positive impression of you and her interaction with you if she can find a way to rationalise it.

but if her mental map is incongruous with how she feels i suppose she might feel strange about things. so I suppose it might sometimes be important as well as behaving in a way thats congruent with your pheromonal signature to indirectly hint at potential reasons for the openness and your good rapport that will stick in her head later on when she is going over things again.

I don't know. but as MHarris has pointed out I think it is key to find ways to strengthen congruence.
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Few people are so free and elastic that they can reset their emotional states on the fly. OTOH, intelligent use of pheromones will, over time, enhance the social skills of the pheromone user because of the increased depth of interaction... so there is a synergistic learning curve here, you may attribute your success over time to the pheromones, where you may be overlooking your own increased social competence... then think, some months later, wow, this new pheromone is so good, and maybe it is, while you've gotten better too. I now think of pheromones as a role or a mask that deepens and intensifies some of my own qualities and allows me to concentrate my psychic energy in a very focused or productive way, and with others these energy foci may take hours or days to fully develop.
This seems very true. Many people seem to use ethanol as a learning tool also - using it to blunt the fear of talking to somebody unknown and potentially being rejected - and then acquiring more permanent social skills via trial and error. Not without its pitfalls, obviously.

Beyond acting classes and NLP , any particular exercises or games you would suggest when moned up to improve one's social competence?
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I've yet to notice pheromones that take hours to achieve full effect, though. There seems to be about a 10-15 minute average for most mixes, and a 30-45 minute max to achieve peak for some of the experimentals.

beta-nol seems to take a bit longer than most to really kick in?
I've seen blips of candidness fast, but, yes, it can take awhile substantial effects to develop. I'd say a minimum of 10-15, then another half an hour to develop. BNOL may be one that keeps developing even after that. I can remember times when intimacy ramped up for several hours after exposure. (but then, intimacy begets intimacy, as like always tend to beget like)

I've also seen a conversation started off on a less than ideal footing turn around within 10-15 when wearing bnol, with another half an hour or so for obvious additional development.

While there are always nearly instant reactions to all stimuli, it can take awhile to see the full effects of anything.

To me, while there are always some quick effects, some of the most rewarding effects of pheromones occur over time. While I know people want results now, I've often told them it's best to expect to see result on an actual date, a long walk, or other extended experience.

Think of an especially long,emotionally moving piece of music. Even if you love it dearly, do you like it as much at the very beginning at you do 3/4s of the way in? Doubtless, you are moved more later in the experience.

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