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Old January 15th, 2011, 06:38 PM   #1
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Default Our Friend tacitus - RIP 12/2010 - A compilation of brilliant and exhilarating posts

Tribulation it is to have such a shining star hidden from view
Afflictions seem unimportant in a moment when life should be celebrated
Candor in the most flattering of ways yet reserved for the few
Inundated with insights seen by the naked eye but only perceived with intricate tenacity
Teaming with the sense of wonder that of the most inquisitive child
Unwavering eye to see the world for what it is for better or worse
Singularly a man among men, a intellectual among intellectuals

Reverence that can only be thought of as amorphous
Esteemed by many for the mere strokes of his fingers
Signified not only by his grace of articulation but by the very ideas he instilled
Tremors I feel for an individual that made me oooo and ahhhh without so much as a facial expression or a word off his lips

Indebted I am to my mere thoughts that only he could decipher
Needless to say he will be sorely missed but men like him are immortal as ideas can never be killed or destroyed

Pray I do for grieving friends and family
Ever hopeful that they cherish his memory not dwelling on his passing
Acclimation can never be fully achieved but with time it gets easier
Consideration of others I will continue to employ in honor of him
Every comfort possible up there I wish for you my friend

I wish I could send you flowers and I know you might not have access to a computer but this will have to do. You inspire me as an individual and as a phero user. Although your not with us anymore I will continue to take things in stride and beseech the wisdom superfluous in your posts. Your words brought clarity to my insanity and peace to places that I thought could only exist in war.
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A link to every thread tacitus ever started:

Methoxy-EST, rather cool brew there

Instant Gentleman

Sex-Mix Adventures

Psychomongo's Devil Jism

Minor store problem

Psychological profile tool for DAS

Article on Impulsive Behavior

TAA in the sexmix

The orgasmatronic tension-release theory

celebsexleatherfunkscenejive....

The slow diffusion matrix... continued...

Iso E Super as a pheromone harmonizing ingredient

Holy Schlabong! MORE putatives, will this ever end ?

We've even toyed with silicon based pheromones

Long term preservation of partially filled bottles ?

Another Supermix

As for P87

When does the next round of putatives appear

P88.... Comme des Garcons... scent markings..chocolate bars

Speak, Oh Mushroom God, of P79 !

TAA + TAC + P74 makes women comfortable around men

Could we try the Home, Country, and Apple Pie pheromone

The good Putatives so far

Look out.... about to test P83 thru P88

Love the blue spray bottles ! Would you sell empties ?

P83... a nice little empathogen

P79 + P83 with bright shiny mones in the background

the inscrutability of p86

P93.... yes, it exists... no, you can't have it...

My new supermix... the best balanced, most effective yet

A novel P81/P89 experience

Let 'er rip.... inspired by MX172... but more so...

MEO-EST + TAF: Another unexpected result! CLEAN

P84.... a juicier version of P85 ?

P87 + P88 as psychic empathic nuance builders

Advnaced carrier mixtures to deliver the goods

More hi performance communication swill

Pheros as (potentially intense) emotional growth accelerators

P103 is Phun ! Whee ! Mindless Happiness!

How to end the complicated relationship ?

aha... so this is an exercise machine ?

Fragrances with food associations more popular ?

Another unexpected idea, why skin ages from sun exposure ?

Initial TAK observation

What's the word on the mysterious TAC ?

Aldamines, and the alchemy of eros...

Getting what you pay for ? This is infuriating.

Another reason to be VERY careful of whom you buy from...

Getting your hypnosis products for exactly what you need

S. 762: A bill to include dehydroepiandrosterone as an anabolic steroid

Number of morbidly obese growing rapidly

HIV exploding in Russia, a terrifying situation

R U Getting Machine Herpes ?

Great site for music you never heard of

Whole Body Vibration... the next tech for perfected workouts ?

We should emulate the Chinese..........

Human Fat Meatballs

Aha ! P96.... unlike other pheromones...

This here Thang is too cool....

Reversing metal induced skin hardening

Sooooo.... the question is:

Brought to you by the same folks who....

Oh yeah ! The mortgage meltdown that won't go away !

MRI scan taken during sex

Ahhh... the Motormouth Syndrome is a Public Concern

An incredible sight to behold.....

My sneaky tweaky coffee tweak....

Read this book: The Ape in the Corner Office

P98.... what was that ?

Here's the latest mortgage industry graph....

Another all around textbook for power, sex, money, fame...

The 100 family of putatives....

Not for everybody.... the depth psychology of the game ?

Pot may hike risk of psychosis, research finds

TAH as the sweet groove mone

Glauberman's latest CD... "Golf Mastery"

Remember to get your blood testing done

TAA + Beta-Nol + A314 , we have a winner

Gone missing... MEO-EST, P96.... and the next series ?

P80... clever grace note

Is this phenomenally stupid or what ?

Your corrupt government at work ruining your kid's health

mindblowing... America as End Stage Rome already ?

This is not a good thing, this is a bad and dangerous thing....

Alexithymia... a no-mood disorder that's turning up...

Good tight clean code is back, and the euros are doing it

Beta-Nol and listening to music....

Greenspan Nukes The Discourse....

Freedom Of Speech In Action

This is extraterrestrial material...

A life changing experience...

business theory and self marketing... or else..

The Female version of dating hell..........

New Arginine sports drink and body mones

possibly the most essential game enhancer on the market

Will we ever see P96 on the shelf again ?

Now a word from a Dead White Male

Essence of Man Pig !

The extreme strangeness of climate change

OK... unbelievable... and emotion reading face scanner

Have we reached a new level of inanity ?

You must see this: Cheney's Law on PBS tonight

After nearly 15 minutes of soul-searching, I have heard the call

I'll let this article speak for itself... welcome to the future, kids..

New vitamin PQQ and beautiful skin ?

A tidbit worth thinking about:

breakthrough technology, see UR brain in play

Taming Your Inner Brat: A Guide for Transforming Self-Defeating Behavior

So, why do our leaders get so little respect ?

nothing but thousands of faces at point of orgasm

You after and Instant Jerk OD

Dante's Inferno personality test...

So... about your quality control issues

Care to bend the odds in your favor ?

PQQ about to be on the market as novel vitamin

reading material for leisure time ?

department of political factoids

Ron Paul levells the playing field ? Wow !

Guess how much media power one corporation has.

You can't make this stuff up...

Yup.... this bill intoduced in the House of Representatives

Cannot believe what I just saw...

Yelp dot com ?

OK.. this shizz is evil funny....

And now.... hedge funds are going up in smoke

tee hee hee....MEO-EST made me do it!

Fine, laugh... I bought an iGallop robo-horse

Let's visit the Orgasmotron !

Our collective economic ass is about to get kicked, hard and rude.

Adventures with low doses of pure oxygen

Do I have the right to refuse this search ?

Playing with Neuroprogrammer 2

Cornelius Tacitus Redux

Beta-androstenol and meditation CDs

The power of imagination in children

Meet your new teacher, lucky dog, you>

some advice for your humble consideration

P106... a social energizer ?

Did p114 vanish ?

Kids these days... got no respect...

pheromones gone wrong

Astonishing story....

The Recession might have a few darts left...

Going to B-School ? Read this book, now.

Germany: Stop Using Internet Explorer

This is the future of dissent in America

Ah customer service....

Teen Drinking May Cause Irreversible Brain Damage

Brain wave toys... we ain't in Kansas anymore

John Grinder says some things

Useful article

Football and your brain.... not good

More bad news about alcohol and brains

Weirdest political ad of the dacade

More Brain Injury discussion

Ah... the progress of the human spirit...

P115 and mind machine software...

Testing P119 and P125

before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ?

Anal Sex Mishaps

Now women have antidote to PUA advice

The best diffusors

funny, sad, or insane ? Hemhorroids and Clubbing.

Finallly, the real news

Should Androtics have a Black Label line

Scary Time mag. vid on contact sports and brain damage

When is Androtics releasing a new product ?

OK... this is too good

The anti-sex generation

Yer Brain and responsible conduct

great description of Character Disordered Personality

The all time hottest, filthiest Sexmix of all time...

Have young people gone crazy ?

Headed for another Global Splat ?

How to ruin the moment

The end of polite,procedural Europe

Cologne lures jaguars in the wild

That's the way you do it....

Nasty police state coming your way ?

Good advice if anyone can use it

College life 9 years ago

Very enlightening article

The real dope on what women want

Could PUA's be charged with rape by deception ?

Mangina Metrosexualis (the adult male clown)

The worst marketing message ever ?

Bakedness, Konsciousness, Mindness

P90.... subtle, a touch social dominant, maybe ?

The pleasing self effects of P106

Another great day in law enforcement

The weirdest thing I've seen in years...

P106, collective behavior, self effects... etc

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In case you weren't sufficiently paranoid

Pulsating Pussy Mix meets Marriage Counselor

The Pulsating Pussy Effect

Before there was a PUA movement

Space Oddity: anol+rone+TAL+est+p97+p106

The sheer honesty that TAL unleashes in women

The cutest Russian girl...

How not to get ahead

worst porn scene ever recorded ?

P106 and osgasmotronix studies

Very beautiful and strangely cool

Lesbian Zombies in therapy ?

p112..... wow! wacky ! wuzzup wid it ?

In the worst possible taste....

Department of Paranoia, second division...

vitamin-line nutrient PQQ finally available

P114.... holy moley !

P90 didn't do much, P91 was chillin'

Rich people have no idea what you're thinking

My post pheromone self... game as instinct training ?

Too much weird sex will do that to a feller

Ah, that explains it !

Great moments in football

P85... a nice decent buzz with no profundity

Compelling reflections from Mick Jagger

Other interactions....


Here's what I plan to do next: Categorize each thread into easy searchable patterns for psychology, sex, molecule research, humor, oddities and some others. Community help would be appreciated. I want to also add a quip for easy reference under each link (quote from tacitus himself).

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These are Private Messages posted by PheroQuirk in the lounge area here: http://www.pheromonetalk.com/lounge/...tus-53423.html

For posterity reasons and to ensure they are properly archived I am posting them here as quotes.

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I am not posting these without some hesitation, but I have removed anything private and I don't think he would have objected to these insights being more generally shared.
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[X] would fit this modus operandi. I've tried erotic mixes with and without, buffering strong -none. [X] clearly has a softening, calming action against the hard push of -none. A1 has never made me depressed, edgy, or combative, nor is true dineone strongly fragrant. It is almost odorless with a slighly sweet tinge. I have a suspicion that something else, such as androstenone , may have been labelled as -Androstadienone... you have to be very careful who you deal with in this business....

Having said that, -Androstadienone seems to be greatly improved when it is mixed with A314

Also should say that I am about 50 years old with reduced hormonal output, perhaps with a man in his 20s, -dieneone would cause an overload and some kind of overcompensating depression, such as the aftereffect of taking a strong stimulant.


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Now, what do you suppose it is that is in WAGG, Chikara and A314 (not neccessarily the same compound) that allows one to wear higher doses of 'none with reduced chance of very negative reactions?

Androstadienone on it's own can't be it, since none of the products above make men depressed (and I don't suppose Chikara could be scented if it were).

Have you had much experience with pure 'none-Androstadienone mixes?

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Androstadienol would fit this modus operandi.
Does it prevent freak-outs by chicks? Or do you still need to add generous Alpha Androstenol ?

for erotic purposes Alpha Androstenol + androstenone remains one of the best plays in existence, assume you're already in agreement about what you're planning to do next, i.e raw sex. some added -Androsterone seems to round it out. -Diol is too smooth for passionate sex, more warm, conversational, not at all animalistic

for pre-erotic purposes, testing the waters, -[X] is a welcome add in, small doses though, it isn't chatty or blathery like the -nols WILL be, a quieter, almost sedate form of communication, although it has its depths too.
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re Alexander Technique - one can practice this on a multitude of levels, like meditation it can be either horribly boring or subtle and enlightening, it isn't a linear, go in and take two of these and call me in the morning activity... you will find yourself simultaneously outgrowing some lines of inquiry and growing into others, I remember waking up one day and thinking that I'd outgrown the NLP crowd, or they changed, or whatever... sometimes I feel like AT can be sort of retarded and low energy and other times lively in an internal way.. the advanced people do seem to be woken up in ways that most people aren't, physically and mentally... there is a lot of crappy AT on the market too... the gurus of the world have a rendency to speak to a lame brained element of the population, it is hard to find a teacher who actually is "all that and a bag of chips"... so you find the best you can and work with what you've got... balancing planes of development is tricky, you work like crazy to master one plane and you lose touch on another one, so if you can find some way, any way to accelerate the process, that's pure gold.
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The NLP front ? Don't I wish there was a teacher so compelling that I would drop all activities and seek this being out ? My eyes are always open, there isn't any strong subsurface rumbling to suggest a hidden master lurking in the depths, frankly, Bandler used to be a hale and hearty fellow, if more than a little , errrr, excessive at times, now he looks awfully imploded, possibly he still has something unique and vital in him, couldn't say for certain say... there is the big Alexander annual congregation at Sweetbriar college in Virginia, a two week event, quite long by seminar standards if you want a grand tour of the art instead of noodling around with a teacher here and there, hoping you'll find a good one (the not good ones are hopelessly bad)... this is the winter of our discontent or something like that in the body/mind field, you're either a pro athlete or a corporate droid now, there isn't a good middle ground, I think this is the outcome of corporatizing life down to the calluses of its feet, now there are too many dregs, jerkish leftovers pandering to the consciousness scene, very sad, very enrevating...
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"wow, changed so recently. i don't know about nlp . seems to me like they are on to something (and people i respect think it can be helpful). yet every person i have met socially who has been into nlp has been a bit odd in one way or another (in a mildly disturbing rather than purely eccentric way), maybe not the best inspiration for invoking a desire to pursue it further."

it appears to have been a glacial process, every gifted charismatic group proceess teacher I have known has some of the "wounded healer" archetype going, the thing that is broken in them also gives them the neurotic intensity to inflate in front of an audience... NLP can fill its' adherents with fantasies of special powers, all the old legends of Milton Erikson and his hypnotic craft, Richard and his outrageous stunts, Tony and his great empowerments... everyone seems to be overcompensating... and some of the foundational NLP theory is unverified crap, that we think in Visual, Auditory, Kinesthetic systems, when my experience is we think in an impure mixture of these modalities... the most real teacher along these lines my be Stephen Gilligan, who has a real PhD in clinical psychology and is really respected in the professional community, and studied closely with John Brinder and Richard Bandler . For more information:

stephengilligan.com

[re cults]
once you've been through the drill it isn't a fresh the second time around, same with me and EST , the next one had all the wrong aromas. Scientology with their E-meters was laughable and scary... an OT6 walked up to me and demanded to know "why is a tree a tree?" Say what ?

a'how did u make the move from biochem to acting? was the drive toward self-realisation the reason? or did u get into all this stuff to become a better actor?"

another long glascial process, some cultural anthropology made me wonder about group processes and collective trance, and how groups migh be coordinating the processes
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"yes, the mechanics of how groups makes decisions in practice seems poorly understood. and i'm not sure the neocortex is as much in charge as it likes to think.

how often/in what situations do u think collective trance plays a part in things?"

Gilligan has much to say about trance states, they are really common phenomena, although they aren't usually directed with much cortical planning. Some charismatic types seem to have an intuitive grasp of their processes and manipulate them somewhat at will.

After years of study will every NLP "master", Gilligan, and across several cultural platforms I find that I do eneter into a state that is both directed consciously and unconsciously (or from the second attention as John Grinder, borrowing from Carlos Casteneda, likes to call it) where I will do group trancework... at times I have achieved gratifying results when a member of an acting class spontaneously demonstrates a sudden flash of hightened competence afeter a piece of trance induction... of course you can learn to be so covert about these things, and the group is in a nice eyes open trance, I did one thing recently where there was an electric heater shifting off and on, making a metallic buzzing sound, so I gave the group the suggestion that it was a Sitar they were listening to and the buzzing was the sitar drone, and then i talked about the beauties of Indian classical music and it's subtly shifting harmonic cores, and pretty soon the heater was doing the induction for me as the room dazed on the suggestion that they were listening to sitar, then of course on to the idea that one could experience dramatic increases in their general life competence... another corporate girl named Janis I suggested that we sing Janis Joplin duets so she could beging to feel all the human complexity she couldn't in a corporate setting... ya know, you can do some very nice stuff...
"yes, the mechanics of how groups makes decisions in practice seems poorly understood. and i'm not sure the neocortex is as much in charge as it likes to think.

how often/in what situations do u think collective trance plays a part in things?"

Gilligan has much to say about trance states, they are really common phenomena, although they aren't usually directed with much cortical planning. Some charismatic types seem to have an intuitive grasp of their processes and manipulate them somewhat at will.

After years of study will every NLP "master", Gilligan, and across several cultural platforms I find that I do eneter into a state that is both directed consciously and unconsciously (or from the second attention as John Grinder, borrowing from Carlos Casteneda, likes to call it) where I will do group trancework... at times I have achieved gratifying results when a member of an acting class spontaneously demonstrates a sudden flash of hightened competence afeter a piece of trance induction... of course you can learn to be so covert about these things, and the group is in a nice eyes open trance, I did one thing recently where there was an electric heater shifting off and on, making a metallic buzzing sound, so I gave the group the suggestion that it was a Sitar they were listening to and the buzzing was the sitar drone, and then i talked about the beauties of Indian classical music and it's subtly shifting harmonic cores, and pretty soon the heater was doing the induction for me as the room dazed on the suggestion that they were listening to sitar, then of course on to the idea that one could experience dramatic increases in their general life competence... another corporate girl named Janis I suggested that we sing Janis Joplin duets so she could beging to feel all the human complexity she couldn't in a corporate setting... ya know, you can do some very nice stuff...
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"oh yes - it's not going to be a very controlled experiment"

TAF feel like a great adjunct pheromone, it lacks the warmth of the -nols or the passion of -Androstadienone or -none... although in combination with them a raw dopamnine surge might be interpreted as a thing of erotic wonder, a great fragrant night blooming orchid bursting out of a clump of wet moss... ergo, (have a look at jasmin's latest post about TAF in the vacinity of methoxy- est ) one might want to be extra particular about the circumstances when running this experiment. You could get pounced on by a hungry spider.
"oh yes - it's not going to be a very controlled experiment"
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Re: MOET
"we need to get an abbreviation for this
thing

I may well be imagining this, but did seem to see a shift in vision on inhaling and again music seems different. Find it hard to articulate what the difference is though. So keep an eye out and let me know if you do end up noticing any changes in perception"

let's allow a critical mass of impressions to form... it is doing something, that's certain.
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I suggested to Jasmin - next stop 100mcg TAF and 2 shots of absinthe

ummmm, yukkkkk, I think Baudelaire said that waking up from an absinthe hangover was like sleeping in shit. To me it's plain nasty, a foul, vile high...

I've never done acid or e, but I wonder how TAF would influence that experience.
Might be too much of a good thing. I was reading that "serious trippers" (is that an oxymoron or what ?) were gravitating towards adding small doses of sedatives like banzodiazapenes to soften the trip... there have been reliable reports that pheromes can have a powerful, perhaps too powerful for emotional comfort, impact when used with strong cannabis. Emotional stuff may arise that some are not prepared to handle...
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what do you think about taf 's use in meditation btw? i heard one chap was ordering it for that purpose.

meditation... too alert for that, move you away from the classic meditative theta state, up to a higher frequency beta....

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there have been reliable reports that pheromes can have a powerful, perhaps too powerful for emotional comfort, impact when used with strong cannabis.
yes, i saw reports to that effect at the other place from one of the more interesting posters there.
cannabis has evolved into powerful mind altering stuff... I now hear reports of uses self admitting into health clincs because they are suffering from (hopefully temporary) memory loss... the late generation hydroponic growing technology and more sophisticated plant genetics have unleased another one of the great unintended consequences on us... wouldn't want to expose the users to a high intensity -pheromone unless they were solid stable individuals, and me, I wouldn't be there in the first place...
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Re: 'polishing coconuts'
believe it or not there are now philosophers who contemplate this sort of thing... I think they call it "manifestation theory"... there's a guy in Encenitas, California who studied closely with the legendary Milton Erikson, one Stephen Gilligan:

Milton Erickson | Hypnosis | Self-Relations | by Stephen Gilligan Ph.D

he's not a manifestationist, although he does some heavy work with the RAS and the ways filters are set... he can do deep work with the unconscious mind and how it creates what the conscios mind takes for reality


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was thinking about taf and reading up on the RAS in google when I came across the following - thought you would find the description of a social dynamic to be interesting

SoulfulLiving.com - A Feature Article on Writing and Intention - Write It Down, Make It Happen, by Henriette Anne Klauser - Soulful Living
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Re: hi
from a brain science point of view:

Political bias affects brain activity, study finds - Technology & science - Science - LiveScience - msnbc.com


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will reply over next few days. about to head to spore. thought you might find the below of interest

http://www.gmu.edu/jbc/Tyler/PrideandSelf.pdf
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Re: TAK afterthoughts
after considerable experimentation it seems reasonable to conclude that human brains are gestalt forming organs, the lower regions of the brain take in a huge amount of undifferentiated information and progressively trim it, refine it, compare and map to the higher brain regions... so it is exceedingly hard to pin down any specific "IT" that shapes one's present sense/feeling/congnition about what reality is, whether social reality or physical reality...

Pheromones and sensual odorants obviously adjust this mysterious process in some interesting ways which may lead one to disregard the full bundle of forces at work

John Grinder of NLP fame was very focused on the idea of unconscious state matching (i.e. rapport creating) and state dis-matching processes which he believes took place outside of conscious awareness.

In some converssation with him, he appeared to be thoroughly innocent of pheromone chemistry or theory, more surprising his cluster of adherents were overtly hostile to the idea of pheromones as having any contribution to this rapport business, as they may have undermined certain of the basic tenets of the NLP model...

Funny thing was that Grinder was a big fan of Thomas Kuhn, author of The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, that suggested this very thing, that a new piece of information would arise which would be highly discrepant with established paradigms, and that the old generation would feel that their authority, learning, investments, and prestige would be threatened by this novel thing...

It was the appearance of pheromones on the scene that threatened to have a Kuhnian impact on the orthodoxy of NLP , and the NLP community reacted in the predictable way... which goes to show that one have have an intellectual grasp of a topic yet be fully unable to comprehend its' relevance to the present situation.

What makes people tick is complicated... the tactical approach of body language, pacing, leading, immediate social signals, may disregard the importance of long standing cultural forms, family dynamics, early childhood experience, education or lack thereof, political and economic frames...

One could ramble on at great length here...



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awesome post. one of the most insightful on any topic I have seen, even amongst yours. possibly life-changing. do you suppose the something else is mostly a chemical messenger? (some derivative of cortisol?) or due to a bunch of things including posture, body language and subtle facial expressions etc?

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can't name any novel ones... spent time with the head of research for a fragrance industry trade association... he said that sesquiterpene synthesis can't be done except at extreme cost in the laboratory, they have to get them from natural sources, except now they are testing trans-genetic technology to do it by putting the right DNA into yeast... aloeswood/agarwood, assuming you have the real material, is definitely psychoactive and quite pro-erotic as well as unbelievably fragrant... a sesquiterpene complex...
vetiver, also a popular sort of unpleasant scent IMHO, another one...I would suspect many of the fragrant wood oils, esp the southeast asian variety, are combos of various terpene classes..


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wonder if it one of the psychoactive sesquiterpenes from a bark or root where such things are found ?
interesting - are there any other sesquiterpenes in partic you have found helpful (beyond the ones you mentioned on LS)?
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it seems to be a general thing, varies for pheromone to pheromone.. that's why I don't use them every day, maybe every 4th day maximum, because they really work my neurological-endocrine axes pretty well, it would be like drinking a lot of strong espesso all the time.... and balancing the yin pheromones with the yang pheromones is a good idea too, so you aren't over stretched in either direction.. Androstadienone can, but not always, have this backdraft effect of feeling sort of unsocial and not into talking to people..

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I think I tend to experience same with high doses of Androstadienone. Feel grimey, blah and depleted. Have you noticed this with anything else? (It doesn't seem to happen for me with none for ex).
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tw was reminded v much today of your point about importance of voice/tonality etc. had been making a conscious effort to work on this (for now just simple stuff - paying attention to breathing and singing scales and arpeggios in shower) with I think some useful effect.

The best thing to do is get a good recorder and a good microphone (with a wind "pop" foam cover so you don't overload the microphone with air blowing over it) and listen to yourself reading text. Shakespeare is perfect because of his use of meter... sometimes when I listen to old Londoners talk, people now in their seventies or so, I remember how refined, how disciplined, and yet how unselfconsciously beautiful, and clearly expressive on multiple levels, emotive and logical both common speech could be, with no affectations, and I think a great confidence came with that, that one could be understood and that one could easily understand, and many emotional planes could be at work without being precious or excessively denotative....[/quote]
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I'm too wiped out with the flu at the moment to do justice to a good reply... I wouldn't go so far as to study art history... much of it is awfully tedious... you'd do better to go to a store that sells art and design books and get a couple that deal with color theory and color application in design.... for example, I learned (after years of considering the subject) that certain carefully realted colors were inherently sexy and people felt sexy around them... most people make the initial mistake of choosing colors individually instead of understaning the dynamic between colors, and how that enhances or weakens self presentation... the color scheme must work with your hair... eye color... and skin tone. Because the eye is the most erotic visible body part, be especially aware of the way anything near the eye, particulary a scarf or shirt, will cause the eye to intensify.... I think it is a mistake to "fight the eye" by choosing a color that contrasts with it... better to find colors that interact with and compliment the eye... black guys are lucky because they have everything lined up, eyes, hair, skin... they can wear devastating primary colors, strong yellows, reds, deep blue colors that no anglo guy should wear, he'll just dissappear and the color will take over... look at this Italian masters of the Renaissance... such colorists like the world has never seen..... then think of your hair... the second color choice should contrast slightly with the hair... but be at the same "grey value" (meaning that if all the color was removed, the degree of greyness would be the same)... so as I became middle aged and more grey, my jackets shifted from darker to lighter. with an interplay of washed out, almost mineralic mediterranean colors... only a fool of an old man would dye his hair, better to pick masterful color schemes that compliment the hair... then consider the skin, is is bluish, orange tinted, olive green toned ? All of these factors must be carefully blended and put together like art, yet with no sign of effort... always better to understate than overstate....
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I do think that life skills begin to flow together and meld into one's personal style... so ultimately one isn't bound to a script or an external method... pheromones may become an integral piece of that large self presentation... more... they can accelerate your learning curve as richer social opportunities present themselves as raw material... I did begin to notice that a multitude of influencing factors were in the background as "supporting subliminals" ... such as studying color theory and great art and training my eye hard to see what made an optical materpiece so visually enticing... then applying that knowledge to clothing... there are many fine points of color combination that do turn people on, even though the individual clothes may be of modest origin... the lesson here for me was the essence is to look comfortable, natural, completely unforced, yet associate colors, fabrics, patterns in ways that are outstanding in their simplicity and elegance.... looking too stylish can actually be a detriment... anything that announces one's needfulness WILL be a detriment... OTOH.... there are details that make a difference without ever flying out... I see far too many bad belt buckles, either too heavy, made from the wrong metal, or too dainty... there seems to be an art to carrying a great buckle... there is an art to walking, the looseness of the gait, quite hard to learn how to walk elegantly, and you can't fake it, how to pay attention and listen to someone else, tracking the subtle changes of their micro-expressions, having a cache of great stories that are uniquely yours... MM wlll clarify specific points... I use their clarifications to good effect, the difference is that I don't rely on alcohol, ever, or drugs, ever, and I don't hang out in clubs or bars nor do I see any reason to.
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as a younger man, were you always this insightful and perceptive? or did the NLP +bodywork+vocal training+life experience &c &c transport you to a different realm?
unfortunately, both for myself and anyone in my presence, I was a total jerk... albeit a curious total jerk....huge investments of time, dedication, finding the right teachers, wasting energy and life corpuscles with the wrong teachers, and perhaps most importantly, allowing my preconceptions to be busted..... all were required to make an iota of progress.. fortunately, when you invest in the right efforts, the eventual payoff can be great... none of this came with magical ease... and be warned, as I am reenteering the NLP field... some NLP has turned hopelessly mediocre... it just returned from a training with a costly "certification" as if their certificate would carry much weight... and qualitatively it bordered on ludicrous...
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tku. i'm still curious about the taa - tac contradiction... so you find tac mildly erotic but not the alpha one...
wellll.... tac is a strange one... I've never found it erotic per se.... it has the polymorphous nature that can be sort of gentlemanly-authoritative sexy grandpa presence... or it can be spontaneously giggly... people will crack up for no reaon... taa is so distinct... with a meditative upper, anti-depressant quality.... tac is softening, relaxing, like sinking into a well padded chair, and taa is more like bouncing on a trampoline... together you feel a two directional pull, like you want to chill out and self express at the same time.... I think taa can get you laid and tac can get you laid, though your approach would be different for each one... I'm not so sure that tac and taa at the same time will get you laid...
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eyurp.... a [censored]-something at that....

stand up comedy in a bottle, ifn you asks me.... dunno why but cats love it... easily as much as catnip... purrrrrrrrr purrrrrrrrr purrrrrrrr... pussies like it too.

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so if TAC is unlike any other pheromone you know about, then to somebody who has read your posts for a while I guess that pretty much nails which one it must be.... no comment required
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you don't do things by halves funny because I have the same approach. stuff is cheap and the potential benefit from getting things very right so high that makes sense to splurge on and experiment with books, music, pheromones etc - anything that will help you make your life better.

Yep.... everything begins and ends with the mind... your mind IS reality in a practical sense.... I've been experimenting with "bracketing" lately, working my beta ranges, then down to delta-theta, then more beta, then more delta-theta... while avoiding the spacey, self indulgent alpha range... I do much better in life when I reduce my alpha activity... seems I go there as sort of an escape, dreamy, socially disconnected, watching internal TV.... the theta-beta combination is less foggy, less sentimental, gets things done fast, efficiently, and keeps good track of time...

overstimulation of sympathetic system may be lyme or immune related. I wonder if TAK + mind machine can help also

Possibly... there are strange factors, like the balance of the occlusions of the molars... I was dumfounded when a persistant headache and neck pain that had dogged me for ten years cleared up when I got my rear teeth precisely levelled... clenched my jaws much less too...
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Qn re Glauberman - if using simultaneously with a mind machine, which settings are acceptable? Is it okay to fall asleep during the induction?

I presently have another large pile of Glauberman's CDs I'm exploring... some of my recent changes have be absolutely astounding... although I don't know how to weight each contributory factor, and perhaps in a complex synergy condition, the whole cannot be fully understood merely as a sum of the parts... I think as each mind is distinct, and each life agenda is as well, that one must patiently combine and recombine until one finds the right personal tuning for that life moment... I dount that you could go very wrong in the worst case, however only with the patience of a locksmith can you arrive at the perfect intersection for your present gestalt, when you step back and say to yourself, WOW... that really IS a new perspective on life....
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You are going to be one busy fellow for the nonce. In my recent experimentation, I believe I have gotten the best all around results when using the High Range Aerobic Jump (beta fluidizer) which will be Special Program #3 followed by the Full Range Aerobic Jump, Special #2... of course there are oodles of others... I've found that those two, in that order, when used regularly, will slowly but surely bring about a dramit improvement in mental efficiency with no added feeling of mental strain or effort, IF you use only the audio portion... with the light goggles it might be fairly intense... also have been using the Glauberman CDs to marvellous effect... his Meditative Relaxation is especially good, as is his High Performance, and Soul Mates (not as overtly romantic as the title sounds, good relationship builder)... even his "relationship repair" set, Rekindling The Flame is actually fun and useful... I took a big batch with me the other day, and my girlfriend over there was so impressed by the overall improvements in our relationship she (normally highly skeptical of anything the slightest bit woojie-woojie) asked me to leave some with her... I was freaking amazed that she would make such a request... but honestly the qualitative changes for the better between us left us both awestruck... like I'd been seeing a good therapist and some of it osmotically soaked into her psyche... beware though, this was the consequence of about 3 weeks of an average of two hours per day of Glauberman and 40 minutes per day of Photosonix... I believe there is a POWERFUL synergy between the two... which you yourself may not be immediately aware of although I have more noticed other people noticing the differences in me that I have felt or sensed them directly.... I now have another series of CDs on order... even his Sales Mastery is useful... I left her with Sales Mastery (she sells sea shells by the sea shore), Soul Mates, which is really about learning to see things from another's perspective, and Meditative Relaxation, If you're really a bug for these sorts of things, you can route an external source through the Photosonix so you could overlay some of the CDs with the Photosonix programs for super-deep injection.... BTW... each CD will have several (usually two, sometimes three) tracks withabotu 1 minute of dead silence at the end of each... so don't assume that the whole thing is played at the end of the first segment...

For this line of thought, EST is the best, and beta- Androstenol is superb, TAH would be OK too... and EST /Beta Androstenol duo sounds about right.

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I've been a bit afraid of starting acting classes in a group as I suspect I'm likely to be a fair bit behind the mean in current/native ability.

It is so hard at the beginning, you feel so self conscious and naked, all the anxieties, the inner voices to be worked through and quieted...

Possibly barely-remembered memories from childhood. But am at the stage where guess I can deal with the social pressure if need be. Are Meisner technique classes always in a group setting, or can they be private?

The more public the better... best of all you should have to do them naked at a soccer match on the midfield line with thosands of spectators booing you... you will have no fears of public exposure after that...
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Yeah... lots and lots of big city professional training with tough, high quality acting coaches and voice coaches is a MUST before going on camera... My advice would be at least one semester of meisner (acting) training, one full on camera course... everything here need to be trained, tightened up, brought into focus... and boy do i know, I've worked like hell at it and it has taken me at least 3 years of more or less constant application with great teachers to develop "professional presence"... it's expensive, emotionally painful, stressful, confusing, and unltimately one of the best investments you can make in your future...
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there are numerous factors... voice production is a full body experience... I've had ultrasound treatement (you need some expertise to do this) of my arms, and loosening and elasticising my arms changed my voice considerably.... and there was a japanese (fanatic craftsman I assume) shoe company that made special shoes for opera singers when they performed, to refine the connection between their body mass and the satage... so I wouldn't argue that voice HAS to be locked or fixated in any specific region of the body... any place where the body is frozen or has reduced awareness will also affect voice production... as gross as this sounds to the modern sensibility, earlier legitimate medical practice used a number of sphincter dilator tools.... exceptionally finely made, done with complete medical professionalism, to treat various conditions of "overgripping".... even high blood pressure was treated with a rectal dilation device, and apparantly this really did work.... and there are still "urethral sounds", or a graduated set of stainless steel probes that are used to open the urethra into the bladder... as there are a complex set of ring muscles in the region that can become clampled shut... the Rolfers and other post-reichian body workers came to believe that over aggressive potty training resulted in the mal-coordiantion of the pelvic floor, and this then caused diaphragmatic tightening... just think about a time when you badly needed to urinate and had to hold it in... it changes your voice, right ?

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Ultrasound is a well established modality for physical therapy... the high frequency sound is conducted into the muscles and connective tissue from an emitter that is coupled to the skin with ultrasound gel... the major risk with ultrasound is deep tissue burn from improper application, so skillful therapists who know how to put in a high enough dose without injury are required... besides a heating effect, ultrasound actually softens and mobilizes the harder fascia, tendon, and ligamentous tissue so the limb will become much freer and mobile... often the nerves also benefit as the nerve tissue is directly massaged by the ultrasonic vibration, resulting in improved nerve conduction function, which in turn improves muscle function... a good thing if used with proper understanding, potentially dangerous if used improperly... as for Rolfers, the quality of Rolfing has fallen preciptiously over the past 15 years, there may, somewhere, be a first rate bodyworker who can fully enegage the body-mind connection

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wow... what does ultrasound treatment of arms accomplish? how do I read upon on it on the web... and how about the loosening and elasticising? is that from the ultrasound or an additional process?
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even today when interacting with my parents I often feel like I am acting out some as-yet-unpublished script from 'games people play'... (one common element is a lecture on how much they sacrificed for me followed by a sequence of negative evaluations/peer group comparisons).

The first powerful comprehension to free your mind is this:

They too, now as much as ever, are profoundly on automatic pilot... and the reason they are in this condition is that THEY have endless internal monologs, dialogs, lectures, diatribes, end so on internalized and also outside of conscious awareness... they don't (for now) comprehend that these are "tapes"... and they are tape players... sometimes it helps to use a quick visual dissociation trick... when you see each other, quickly imagine each significant party AS a tape player, or CD player.... with a series of stimulus buttons... so if you say "x" or give posture "y", then on comes the Z message.... you know, there is a very intense, painful, but somehow profoundly liberating movie (when so few possess this depth) I would most reccommend, The House Of Sand And Fog... w/ Ben Kingsley... written by Andre Dubus... about a dispossesed Iranian general who sacrifices everything for his family to live in middle class Oregon... Kingley captures the essence of it...

do you have any thoughts or suggestions for reading material on clearing the cobwebs around stereotyped behaviour patterns within relationships? it is one thing to change oneself enough that new programming supercedes old patterns in the context of new relationships. but a harder one when it comes to a context of the oldest relationships where the patterns have been laid down since childhood.

This is so because the relationships are based on absolute dependency... I have found that the deepest growth is rarely the "big blast breakthrough" advertised by the Tony Robbins model of transformation, rather the slow, day to day accretions of awareness... where these dependencies evolve and mature into something more interesting and constructive... hold onto the insight that the generation before you may have had terribly difficult childhoods, filled with uncertainty, and this way of being constantly vigilant, constantly in terror of failure, is informed by the belief that the most terrible consequences may await one is not sufficiently on guard...

I think you must also give yourself more credit for being determined to reshape the family drama (which is what many families are... ) and the family trance (which is also what many families are) into something more constructive...
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Having said that... my impression is that you have a large component of perfectionistic internal dialog, which may be blocked from conscious awareness, so I will assume that your childhood had significant figures who lectured you and were very demanding about personal minutae....

From a self liberation perspective, if you could gain access to these hidden files which guide your consciousness, and if you must be talking to yourself, say richer more dimensional self accepting things, in the tone of curiosity and wonder....

Have you considered the possibility that the growth tools you have been using, the CDs, bodywork, pheromones-as-catalysts, have helped you make significant, outside of conscious awareness level changes ?

That it isn't the pheromones, per se, but you have
really changed, enough for the better that others respond as one naturally would ?

Perhaps the issue is not the reality of change, but that your internalized critical voice (and, the beliefs of the person who was the source of that voice) has a hard time understanding, much less accepting this degree of change ?
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Each experience will either deepen existing grooves or carve new ones in your neurology... I wouldn't concern myself with "out of pattern" unless it becomes egregiously anti-social... ANY experience of newness, the newness of self, will feel alien, hard to interpret, lacking the familiar contextual frames.... "deframed moments" can be exhilirating to a free consciousness... clubland, party promoters, and such, IS a rigid, contrived social universe, (I have had excessive experience therein before I came to my senses)...

In retrospect, a primate behavior lab..... not to be taken too seriously... whatever happens, no need to get any heavy self judgements, even if you make a grand ass of yourself once in a while...
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But now, and by now I mean in the last 10,000 years, we've been into something new. Not genetic information, not genetic mutation, not natural selection, but epigenetic activity: writing, theatre, poetry, internal linkdance, art, tattooing, body piercing and philosophy. And these things have accelerated the ingression into novelty ...............quote]

Whew! I have to admit, we're dancing on the brink and not impressively conscious of it... I suppose this is the great bifuraction, some may go mad, some may enter into a new state of advanced consciousness, but we will certainly be scathed by what is to come... and possibly we will have to enter a time of great environmental trial, we may so granted the rarest of human opportunities, to see humans and environment enter one of those rare world historical totalisms... some have said that the great volcanic eruption at Santorini which obliterated the Minoan civilization also was such a profound, direct shock it brought about a new form of consciousness, a waking up expressed in the birth of greek philosophy, and similar things have been said about the mental impact of the Plague... man had to conceptualize anew, his former God or gods (including technology) no longer could satisfy some basic curiosity, or doubt....
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Well, ya know... THE thing is to discover your own true measures of a well lived life, which may diverge considerably from the messages, conscious and unconscious, that you have been indoctrinated with... IMHO... the real secret in in coming to that point of self understanding, then other things like relationships come quite naturally, because you are being the thing that you truly are...
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Ummm... it was, and remains a process of self dicovery, learning to be "internally connected", or moving forward as a congruent unit of intention, as well as externally connected, really listening to and getting other people, particulary being able to step into and out of other frames of reference as circumstances require... even now, approaching my 51st year, I seek out the best treachers, some demanding as hell, hard to find, who are teaching me things of astounding power that I can only half appreciate at the moment... so I assume that being in a position of curiosity, flexibility, skillfulness... you will find that when you have certain exceptional skills recently learned, or "installed" as they like to say, they may be also so subtle and transparent that no one is aware of any doing-ness... there's only this elegant flow of energy back and forth... and if you work on some good synaethesa skills you can track it by color shifts, the energy gently shifting from reds, oranges, indigos, blues... I mean by this some kind of high level phenomenal mapping that the brain is doing to organize its experience...
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> What social filters select for cool, intresting people?

varies, you know... we monkeys are a faddish bunch, so what's the "it
thing" is always in flux... there's a sort of instinct for the moment...
the real trick here is to find a social maven, one of those near
professionally in touch human radars... some go full on professional and
become party promoters, event planners... who know where the real action
is versus the pseudo action... every social universe has its' event
producing caste... they are a subculture with their own codes and ways,
who hold the keys to the kingdom... even Lord Chesterfield in his letters
to his dysfunctional bastard son, makes mention of this critical "access
person" who one must cultivate with infinte care...
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Later is Now, bhillboy.

Y'all are not going to do the work to find the wisdom of Tacitus or any of the other luminous intellects who have graced these pages through the years. (and there have been many) Hell, you don't even run the simple searches to see if the subject of your thread has been discussed before. Granted, Tacitus is not an easy read. He caressed and cajoled massive concepts of human awareness and interaction. His logic and prose was often convuluted and occasionally descended into babble. But what do you expect from uber-sensuous NLP porno-shamanism Zen? He was the one. The one of us who had the best chance of seeing through the matrix. The one of us who, for a few shining moments, could see beyond the illusion we call a world.

Soooo.... while I'm reading through this collection of threads (along with some of his posts in other threads), I'm going to post a few of the gems out back here. Make it a little more accessible.

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My assessment of the problems that normal males face in every aspect of day to day life (especially the strangeness of the workplace) is absorbing and working through streams of information that end up overloading the mind, before that information can be sifted through and organized as a background screen of wisdom, self image, large scale beliefs about the world, human nature, ethics, obligation, and so on.

Instead we are waist deep in clutter, trivia, rumor, political saber rattling, junk logic, junk science, and whatnot that really doesn't add up to too much at the end of the day.

A major part of positioning oneself for success (in anything you choose to define as success) is clearing out as much irrelevant crap as humanly possible, simplifying you mental maps for maximum efficiency, or as someone once said, genius consists of having the fewest moving parts, digging much deeper into your subject than everybody else is doing, establishing high quality social networks that support your ambition, having a reputation for credibility.... meaning that people can pretty accurately predict the result of an interaction with you...

So I'd say.... devote some consistent time to mental focusing and quieting... put a player with headphones, decent quality, a squirt bottle of an integrative pheromone... and as often as reasonable.... do some mental integrative process when you can....
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since I've been playing a lot with pheromones in relation to light sources.... these things have been taking me by surprise, as I never thought of light quality as a significant influence on pheromone response... my experiments are now suggesting (at best a suggestion, much need to be done to confirm or disconfirm these "discoveries".... i.e. that they are not just random coincidences that create the illusion of correlation of of strong causality....)

I have been testing identical pheromone mixes on multiple sexual partners, and changing the light used during sex.... with an incandescent, broad spectrum blue light, as opposed to a true monochrome LED emission blue, the pheromone mix produced a playful more emotional, verbal communicative state that did not have a fundamental, animalistic sexual note, it was as if under the influence of blue energy, the mind was more humorous, free floating, non goal driven, the pleasures were diffused around emotions, feeling, and physical sensations... while under the orange light the identical pheromones were part of a "lightening bolt orgasm" experience where the orgasmee is struck with a stunning, whole body spasm, breathless type of orgasm.... I noticed my own feelings and energy flows were also quite sensitive to the light color.... substantially more so than without the presence of pheromones...

I am starting to think that as light has an impact on the hypothalamus, and pheromones certainly do as well, the hypothalamus must be co-reacting to the intersection of these two factors... perhaps the ideal environment would have a three color mixing panel where precise light levels, color saturation, and hues could be specified to ideally react with the pheromone state... this may be a major component in why people will have one type of pheromone experience in one environment and a very different on in another, such as under corporate energy saver fluouescents, or under moonlight, on in bright daylight, or say, orangey club lights.... I do notice how many clubs and bars have converged on an orangish color... must be that the bar sells the most drinks under these conditions.... makes me wonder what happens in the middle of the spectrum with greens, yellows, indigos, and maybe also with really pure LED violet colors....
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which sorta makes sense.... light, fragrances, primitive balance sensing, some auditory information innervates to both higher level processes, what we might term "aesthetic" where we consciously contemplate it, and also subcortical parts of our awareness... parts of out mind where experiences are formed into gestalts.... pheromones do absolutely appear to address the subcortical gestalt consciousness as one of a multitude of factors working on that level of awareness... so naturally you have to wonder... would certain ambient sounds, like shaped white noises, or water sounds, or whatever, also feed into these consciousness shaping processes ?
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noise shaping often means arranging spectral distribution.... there are whole claaes of noise colors, blue noise, brown noise, 1/f noise which might not be the same as brown noise, red noise.... and of course, one of my favorites, black noise... yup, it exists as either a mathematical construct (cauchy noise) or stuff you can listen to... I sorta came to this by observation when I was listening to raindrops hit the window and noticed that certain patterns of raindrops that came in persistant-intermittent spatters of a certain frequency were having an exceptional general effect on my neurology.... this "shaped randomness" which had bursts and lulls does satisfy some of the definition of "black noise" , somewhat as does the crackling sound of a fire...and to some extent also the babbling brook sound, which is somewhere between brown and black noise, I was thinking if you could replicate some of that mesmerizing stacatto that is both consistent and inconsistent you have a non distracting sound (that's the major drawback to most attempts at romantic-erotic-sensual music... it over engages the mind, and the mind atempts to synchronize with the music, which can be at odds with the body mind rhythms) where the pure white noise source is overconsistent... so it would seem that the trick on the level of auditory neurology, is to randomize in very controlled ways that allow the mind to flow freely and remain deeply focused without being "thoughty" ... odd thing is a bunch of smart Chinese have introduced this identical idea as a therapeutic device that emits infrasonic energy as a way of introducing "healthy randomess" into ill parts of the body.... if you place one of their infrasound transducers on your mattress, the bed will wurble with an almost imperceptible, but delightfully strange sense of aliveness... which, naturally will be the subject of an upcoming experiment.... and what shall we call this one, The Black Noise Orgasm ? Probably will be noisy in any case.... some of these women when they let go, man they really let go... I think I completely understand the true origin of the opera now..... as for babbling brook sounds.... I knew this gal who ran an excellent cathouse, she fully grokked the aesthetics of sex, and went to the trouble of obtaining small illuminated tabletop fountains for each room that produced a specific gurgling sound... she must have searched for ages before she found the ones that generated the exactly right combination of softness and plangeance with the precisely right noise structure... something about that sound could trigger profound erotic states of consciousness, especially when coupled with flickering oil lamps... althought I think flicker noise or 1/f noise is somewhat distinct from black noise, a degree of blackness/cauchy persistance seems to cause the sound to have a much deeper traction in the mind...
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which sorta makes sense.... light, fragrances, primitive balance sensing, some auditory information innervates to both higher level processes, what we might term "aesthetic" where we consciously contemplate it, and also subcortical parts of our awareness... parts of out mind where experiences are formed into gestalts.... pheromones do absolutely appear to address the subcortical gestalt consciousness as one of a multitude of factors working on that level of awareness... so naturally you have to wonder... would certain ambient sounds, like shaped white noises, or water sounds, or whatever, also feed into these consciousness shaping processes ?
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I would never conclude anything of the sort.... the real action is in the mind itself.... the mind is a "reality generating machine"... so the things you perceive as existing outside of yourself are actually the mind's (meaning the lower and intermediate perception forming process as the higher "meaning" forming processes) description of reality... music is only vibrating air molecules that takes on beauty and meaning within your mind.... of course a composer's mind had to appreciate how to vibrate those molecules so your mind would react to them in a positive way. It is hard to know how one variable will impact the individual's sense of pleasure or meaning.... I've been listening to many slow wave type musics, drones, ambients, stuff designed for mental exploration, meditation, massage... even some with binauaral beat layers for specific frequencies... thinking that if you experience them just so you might induce a consciousness shifting state during sex.... pheromones are one possible high quality experience shaper that might alter or deepen this moment into some kind of mind opening trance phenomenon.... pheromones+carefully designed environment+right person+mental preparation might = extra-galactic head repositioning....

There is this outrageously bizarre women I discovered who say she does super-deep level sex hypnosis... although her, emmmmmm, specialty appear to be somewhat of an acquired taste: .............
hope that link works.... my own thoughts were..... yikes ! A hypno-dominatrix ? What has the world come to.... psychokink ?

Maybe I'll stick to recordings of cicadas, surf pounding on the beach, north indian classical music...
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as with most brain chemisty, endorphins and enkeaphalins are a large topic, and there is a new class of "bliss neurotransmitters" called anandamides... they supposedly give you feeling of pleasure and satisfaction from eating fatty foods and smoking pot, among other things...

"The researchers found that anandamide is part of a network of nerve cells in an area of the brain called the striatum, which coordinates all body movements and other motor behavior. In the striatum, the anandamide network inhibited dopamine's attempts to stimulate the body's motor nerves. Normally, nerve cells regulate this behavior by releasing anandamides at the same time they release dopamine. In order to temper the effects of dopamine, the anandamides bind to nerve cell sites called cannabinoid receptors, so-named because they are targets of tetrahydrocannabinol (marijuana's active ingredient) as well as related chemicals like anandamides. When anandamides were bound to these receptors, body movement in the rats decreased."

This might explain why after good sex or smoking cannabis materials, people tend to be lethargic and physically sort of stuporous..

Some pheromones or putatives might, that's a very tenetative "might", have a moderate impact on endorphin or anandamide receptors..

However, as the drug companies figured out with other aspects of brain chemistry... this issue might be how fast a particular brain breaks down pleasure chemicals.... as many medicine like Prozac actually work by preventing the breakdown of neurotransmitters... it's up to your brain to make them...
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there's something about aerobic sex that appear to have an awesomely tonic effect on the entire body-mind apparatus... hooray pheromones! ... it seems like it is maximizing Heart Rate Variability by some poorly understood mechanism that I would guess has to do with rejuvenating the vagus nerve(s) signal quality, or the way the vagus nerve is communicating with the brainstem... also have observed that when doing a lot of aerobic fucking it is very easy to maintain my weight regardless of what I eat or when.... but it has to be fully engaged, passionate sweaty sex.... the critical element is the deep sense of engagement on multiple levels of being.... it just has to be retuning the sympathetic-parasympatheic balances of the autonomic nervous system which include appetitive responses.... the implications of this are fairly astounding... that "passionate sex deficiency" might actually be a clinical condition that we, as a health conscious society, must address with all of our available resources... imagine if these clusters of depression, obeisity, cardiovascular disease, low grade rage that often manifests when operating motor vehicles, substance abuse... could all be fucked into oblivion.... Harris will get the Nobel Peace Prize....
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now tinkering with nature sounds and shaped noises.... Jane the legendary whoremistress of the legendary Jane's was right about the musical tones of water when right on the money... some recordings are too white noisy, waterfalls come to mind, and some are too sputtery-crackly like fire recordings.... surf and wind sounds have been middle level successes... the best by far are the sounds of slow moving streams and very delicate shorline sounds that have a burble, almost a laughing tone to them, sort of a musical randomness with a low frequency ebb and flow... when all else is in place these sounds can be so freaking erotic... and some eastern bamboo flute sounds, or mixtures of ambient musics and wet sounds... they seem to create a state of long time distortion and help delay and synchronize orgasms and build ups to near orgasms so you can stay in the zone for a long time and resultantly have a potent brain massage...
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Fine and well... there was a phase not too long ago where something indefinite began to shift in the way I was relating to people, the pheromone experiments appeared to allow my brain to wire in new social circuits in ways I hadn't appreciated, and even now do not understand...

That said, WTF ? Throughout the day it is like women just start talking to me out of the blue and STICK to me... older, younger, straight, gay... and I'm not wearing any pheromone, cologne, or "social signifier" that says... well... whatever...

Like, por ejemplo, walking down Bleeker street and this chick is trying to wrassle up customers to the comedy club, and we banter for no more than three seconds and she starts walking along with me, pressed into my side like a long lost girlfriend, and she wants to keep talking for, mmm, two blocks ? Errrr... never met this chick, never laid eyes on her... I'm not in PUA mode, I want to get home and eat raw almonds and read about the Authoritarin Personality and take a hot bath... YoooKay...

Hot older dyke wants to talk about body language, younger bored girls want to talk about the south pacific...

What does it all mean, Sherlock ? I deduce that over time the pheromones had unconsciously got me into novel behavior patterns that are either too gnereral, too subtle, too nuanced... such as they can't be easily written down or put in instructional form... and slowly but surely these attiitudes-behaviors-thought patterns began to fuse into a personal social style...

So here's one (more) vote for the theory that pheromones in conjunction with other behavior changing processes, learning tools, etc... actually act as "game skill development catalysts"... where eventually the pheromone might be a nice extra nudge while the real work has taken place in the mind of the user ?
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OK.. I'lll repeat that... the real work has taken place in the mind of the user... who is the one exposed to the highest concentrations... the user, or wearer, has about 90% unconsciousness of how he (or) she is perceived by other people. Most have no idea how others see them, or really feel about them. Most behavior is unconscious, automatic pattern... and the best psychology theory tells us that the personality is strongly established before 5 years of age.... and then it changes slowly, with difficulty...

Sooo.. what this also reveals is those people who are succesfull with others, either gettting good partners, or business, or whatever, probably were exposed to successful child rearing patterns which set these skills in place before there was any self consciousness...

What I believe pheromones are (partially) capable of doing is softening some of the rigid or deeply set internal structures so one can become flexible again and learn new relating patterns, assuming one is so motivated, and by practicing them over and over one is given a second chance at behavioral self patterning.... so low success or frustration can change into high success or social ease...

At which point the pheromone is nice, however the success comes from deep level personal change... either of attitudes towards others or attitudes towards oneself, or expectations of how others might perceive us, or how we expect them to react to us...
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Looks like my next reading project is The Dependent Personality by Robert Bornstein... one might begin to think that certain personality types (the Dependent type is sort of an amped up Oral-Passive who had, ummmm, "issues" with rebellion, autonomy, and parent-child differentiation) will naturally fall into dependency relationships with just about anything.... including pheromones as The Answer... often the human-human relationship dynamics will have a closed in, energy sucking need.... suffocating cuddly dreams of big down comforters and heaping plates of chocolate chip cookies (sinfully rich!) and cozy, cozy, cozy.... one wonders about the natural audience for all those foodie lyfestyle publications, tankards of foamy beer, puttering around in big sheet steel uteruses called SUVs, while suck, suck, sucking on a 64 ounce Pineapple-Vanilla-Strawberry-Frostee Frappe and much, munch, munching on a nice big greasy Big Boy (eeeewwwwww.... )....

Needless to say, the same dynamics can be turned loose on the playground of the psyche known as Pheromones... making them RESPONSIBLE.... you know the drill.... something out there MADE ME do something.... those Big Boys MADE ME eat them ! That booze MADE ME drink it by... well.. by being so irresistible I just had to... pass out in the stall with my head between my legs....

This may be counterintuitive as all hell, but I think Pheromones combined with the right mindset actually increase one's awareness, and as a result they increase one's SELF AGENCY (taking appropriate and self reflective responsibility for one's state of being).... because they may loosen the set-in-epoxy early socializations enough that one can step aside and inquire, WHY did I believe it was necessary to think (about myself, about my social connections, about the way the world in general is put together) like that ?

This may explain why some people appear to have moments of existential shock when a basically inauthentic, rigid, contrived, artificial, or other form of psycho-bullshit identity suddenly experiences the fresh, liberating air of real emotion.....
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The take home goodie lesson is that one should understand what oral-dependency IS... as a life shaping character trait that is programmed in early and has consequences... my mentioning "foodie" culture was to point at the deep oral-dependency programmming very basic in american (and more so with every year... out to global consumer culture) attitudes...

The Shrinx of the world (the people you/we pay good money to straighten us out and send us merrily on our way) have connected the dots...

The dots in question are the relations of links deep in our unconscious minds between safety, identity, nurturance, obedience, the way our primary connections form and are maintained, and how we stuff our faces on a regular basis....

Thus... early experiences with food, how we are fed, the sorts of stuff we are fed slowly generalize into "global attitudes" about how we relate to romantic interests (what we carry around as an inner model of a nurturing relationship), how we consume information..... can't help but notice that much of the information we consume is strongly geared to oral-dependent psychology.... i.e. over simplified baby food or crispy sweet snacks, nothing that requires too much chewing or strong digestive enzymes, please... we bore easily, you must understand....

Well, well... how do pheromones fit in with all these breast feeding issues ? Orals, you see, even in big guys, are what they call the "unreflective, good time Charlie" personality... yee haw, spring break dude,
lotsa nachos and tits (hmmmmm saith the freudians.... ) that many a glorious young femme has learned to be oh so wary around.... because the oral can go from the ego-syntonic party hearty state to the collapsed, ego-dystonic state of desperate neediness, blubbery sob fests when she changes her mind, huggy snuggly clingy demand for nipple, for nacho, for brewski... and orally fixated women ? Don't get me started, especially those goddam oral expulsive types that yammer on incessantly about the most trivial ass shite, sending their plate back to the kitchen three times because the shrimp isn't just so.... and home again home again jiggety jig to settle in to some serious TV viewing ("her" show, the one she "has to" watch.... or she'll get cranky.... orals are famous for getting cranky.... frustrated orals are in sort of a permanent low grade stew about all their irritiations, like they have fiberglass insualtion particles under their clothes.... nothing a nice tub of Ben and Jerry's won't fix, for about 2 hours until the insulin shock wears off)...

Enter the Sherriff... some get down bad ass pheromone mix that cuts through the crap like Drano through bacon grease. Wham bam.... real emotion... direct contact... all the buffers and cushy stuffy goo goo out of the way.. let's get real baby, talk truth, quit the act and be the resolved state... holy mother of mike ! Saying what you mean and meaning what you say.... coming from the gut for once instead of dancing around the fat layers.... breathtaking, shocking.... you know it's hard... hard as all get out to be real, undefended... not have a whole heap of defense mechanisms to numb the feelings.... heck, a lot of people are scared shitless of real emotion.... it is so anti-ritualistic..... so anti-compuslive.... so anti-fraudulent... so freaking liberating, so refreshing, so ballsy and simple.... therefore so feared.
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Heh... don't get me started on social masochism....

All ye Playas must know the basic point: there is "the game"... as in a rather narrow focus subculture doing its best with an fairly limited theoretical toolset.... and then there is The Game.... the big time, megabucks, play for keeps Great Kahuna game... annnd, if you want to score off the Real Game, in this day and age, you have to know psychodynamics backwards.... kid you not, Roscoe... mmmmm.... you'll notice that the business book sections don't go into psychodynamics ? It's not like this stuff isn't well known and utterly essential to high level success, it's more like it is too important a subject to speak freely about among the SheepFolk....

You can't consider a marketing campaign, product development, making a movie or televsion programming, politics, opening a restaurant franchise, getting over on the collective of humanity in any way, shape or form without a highly refined knowledge of personality structure and psychodynamic function.... why izzat ? Because, mon grasshopper, those with billions who have an abiding desire to turn them into deca-billions or centi-billions KNOW.... the money is in reflexive, unconscious responses to carefully shaped stimuli.... the money is NOT in rational argumentation as to why you should compare nutritional content statements about the level of reprocessed beef tallow in that yummy pizza crust....


Like, you think any emotionally activating, emotionally charged television show is that way by accident ? You think Fox News hasn't studied PPD (paranoid personality disorder) and the Authoritarian Personality style under the equivalent or an electron microscope ?... and every tiny tweak, every nuance they can play around with is inteneded, on multiple levels, to be emotionally triggering to every unconscious hot button these personality styles are encrusted with ?

Not to single out such fine minds as those responsible for Fox programming, as just about everything you see, hear, or read is made with a particular "psychographic" in mind, hopefully one with a lot of spending power...

See... this is how the Big Time Game works, to play whole segments of the population while convincing them that they are thinking for themselves... "we report, you decide".... uhhhh, sure....

Or, take the mushrooming of that magnificent expression of the aesthetic imagination... Reality Television.... oh my, what might this be all about ? Narcissistic Personality Disorder anyone ? With a nice dollop of Oral Fixation... always eating, drinking, thrilling hoedowns of oral expulsive name callings then shniffling off to whine about it on the cell phone which is suspiciously shaped like a candy bar or a cute little turd (which brings us to another set of developmental issues)... heavens... this Narcissism has taken on a life of its own, people who will do just about fucking anything to be noticed for their ability to eat vermin... ah yes, eating vermin, well, there's the Oral part surfacing again....
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Well, it could be classic fear of intimacy, or a near cousin to it, emotional perfectionism... ...there a lot of people, I'd guess the majority of people, who have strong irrational beliefs about what a relationship should (as in: has to, or freak out and run for the hills) look like.... as if there is some kind of detailed mental checklist of each stage, what kinds of rituals, how the rituals are performed, what magical words must be said in what way at what moment, how one must fit into the family system... you must be superior to dad, or dad must be superior to you, or you must worship me, or I must worship you, or we must worship each other but God forbid we show any imperfection, weakness, need or incomplete development... some, Eric Berne and others, have referred to these deeply entrenched patterns as "life scripts"... and once you're on board, there is a strong unconscious expectation for you to live up, or live down to, the stage directions of the life script.... when people get very interesting, original, and highly self determined is when they 1, recognize that they aren't living a life so much as their life scripts are living them, and 2, say to hell with it and begin to design their own life patterns... sometimes referred to as blowing it off and getting real...
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Frustrating, innit ? One walks through the business section at Barnes and Noble.... some Donald Trump here, some this and that over there... and yet one is struck by how little they have to say... everything is general, inspirational... it's ATTITUDE..... bla bla bla... but they never seem to drill down into real information, the "how" is never addressed, everything worth knowing is "proprietary".... trade secrets and all that... so you read maybe 100 things, and this suggests some triangulation is in order, how do you get to the underlying patterns, the real sources of success ? Ever noticed when you're talking business with somebody, or talking about business with somebody, or you're around political people, and you start in on sensitive territory, everyone gets so defensive, so tight lipped, so wary, so unwilling to say anything ? Like this strange pall of mystique, silence, paranoia, hyper-control, neuotocism, fear, anxiety, bureaucracy, hidden factors, non-disclosure contracts.... whatever the F..... Tacitus Rule #7, ( I forget what the first six are, and if I knew I wouldn't tell you on principle) the more important, or valuable, or dangerous a piece of information is, the more neurotic people become about that information, the more their emotional state and behaviors will change with regard to that information, sometimes they get wide eyed, or sometimes get this Wild West Shootout bullshit on their face, all squinty eyed and sizing you up in a "knowing" way.... sometimes it becomes mouth energy, like the lips are sealed tight with Crazy Glue (aptly named), or they will stare straight ahead like watching a movie on a tiny screen off in the distance...

OK... so get this straight... I sort of imagine that most books written for the middlebrow, wants a simple solution that doesn't require much steam or angst market, self help-ish variety are either 1. masturbatory vanity jobs so the douchebag ex CEO can see his name bandied about as a "thinker", 2. money grubbing hack jobs that are the ten thousandth re-packaging of the same old intestinal contents that have been the staple of "success literature" since the 1920s, 3. brain dead neo-mystical drivel that will be forgotten as soon as the next cycle of brain dead neo-mystical drivel establishes a niche in the marketplace (anyone still reading the Celestine Prpohecies ? No ?).... 4. who moved my cheeze ? 5... I can't tell you about point #5 because you don't deserve to know....
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we, the young witch and I are experimenting in a fairly orderly way with energetics... i.e. combining technology (such as pheromone chemistry) with more shamanic technology... complex tones, binaural beats, creating soundfields of insects... the carlos casteneda side of the equation without all that fantasy baggage that castaneda idiots ramble on without any understanding and some other inputs that aren't too well known or understood..above and beyond having very, very good sex there is a long energetic, deep consciousness change that seems to emerge from the choice of frequencies, the types of life form sounds, and these long duration orgasm-zen-meditations... the actual consciousness payoff is as if the sex is a springboard to another dimensionality of life experience...
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We have almost every product commercially available, both a fine collection of "pure" binaural entrainement tones, meditative tones with music, binaural plus nature sounds, pure nature sounds both atmospheric and animal, pure musics and chants... after a lot of structured experimentation we have found deep, potent, near out of body experiences with some, profound meditations with others, light trances with yet others... some of this you won't see coming, put on the deep theta mediataion or delta frequencies and two hours later realize you've been on a cosmic journey someplace either far inside or far outside... sometimes it has seemed like the esssence of prayer, sometimes like the evocation of the shamanic spirit, sometimes like mind meld, and sometimes just a jolly good fuck.
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BTW,,, under these conditions one will greatly appreciate a fine sound system versus a mediocre rig... fine doesn't have to be big or cumbersome, however well chosen components carefully mated are essential for the quality of the journey... other choices matter, the purity of the massage oil is key (bulk products for the spa market are cheap and nobody complains when the goal is fixing a sore neck... for shape shifting and OBEs you need better grade)... we put in some hours learning Ericksonian inductions, co-hypnosis, trance mutuality too... so that leaves us where for now.... uber-sensuous NLP porno-shamanism Zen ?

Have mercy, child... whatever it is.... it renders a whole lotta trivial life issues basically irrelevant and worth moving past as rapidly as one can get up and split... adios, freakshow....
Adios amigo.
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