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Old March 5th, 2007, 02:56 PM   #1
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Default Ok, some life important advice needed =P

There is this one girl I know for about a year, always thought she was someone very special and she is very good looking.
When I met her, we were on the streets chillin with a group.
3 days later, a few of my friends went to the cinema to watch Mission Impossible 3 and I didnt go because I've already seen it. But some girls including that girl I'm reffering to, were there and a friend of mine hooked up with that girl.

Now she's single again (for about 5 months already), and I very recently told her I like her on the phone. I'm hoping to see her next week or the next time we go out again and that will be soon and I am getting my shipping of phero's this week ( if not then... grr.. ) so I dont have a lot of mixing experience and that stuff so I need advice on what I should put on me.
This weekend I was with her but I think I didn't even say more than 50 words the whole night and I dont know why, maybe because I was very tired (because I had a rough day) or because I was seeing her for the first time in a few months - we talk on msn or phone though) or if it was really the pot but usually I talk a lot usually but I dont want next time to be like this one (I told her that I like her after that night).

She also said she likes me but doesn't know me too and wants to be more around me then.

I really like her... I'm also going to break up with my current girlfriend because I found out I can love someone more.

What else should I say =/... this is what I should be getting:

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Old March 5th, 2007, 05:12 PM   #2
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Default Re: Ok, some life important advice needed =P

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There is this one girl I know for about a year, always thought she was someone very special and she is very good looking.
When I met her, we were on the streets chillin with a group.
3 days later, a few of my friends went to the cinema to watch Mission Impossible 3 and I didnt go because I've already seen it. But some girls including that girl I'm reffering to, were there and a friend of mine hooked up with that girl.

Now she's single again (for about 5 months already), and I very recently told her I like her on the phone. I'm hoping to see her next week or the next time we go out again and that will be soon and I am getting my shipping of phero's this week ( if not then... grr.. ) so I dont have a lot of mixing experience and that stuff so I need advice on what I should put on me.
This weekend I was with her but I think I didn't even say more than 50 words the whole night and I dont know why, maybe because I was very tired (because I had a rough day) or because I was seeing her for the first time in a few months - we talk on msn or phone though) or if it was really the pot but usually I talk a lot usually but I dont want next time to be like this one (I told her that I like her after that night).

She also said she likes me but doesn't know me too and wants to be more around me then.

I really like her... I'm also going to break up with my current girlfriend because I found out I can love someone more.

What else should I say =/... this is what I should be getting:

AMMUNITION
Instant Shine - Double Strength
Turn Up the Heat
Instant Honesty - DOUBLE Strength
Alpha A314
MX14MX144 to MX147 Instant Openness Test Pack
Heya flip,

I wish you the best with this girl. The good thing is you already have a connection going with just your personalities and believe me that is KEY to everything else. I wouldn't actually start mixing just yet, as I would be fearful something I mixed would screw things up.

Here's what I would do at your age: The next date/gathering try a bit of shine, check for a more happy/open vibe that will get you talking. It should open things up a bit more. I've noticed that when I wear shine alone, people in general, seem to get closer verbally with me. Not like with Instant Honesty but closer in a sense of hey, I don't know you, but you seem like someone I'd like to exert my energy with and get to know.

Try that first. The next time try just a tiny, itsy, bitsy spray of Ammo . At your age you're already producing enough -none and although the -none in ammo is buffered there's no use in risking a young relationship. It's powerful stuff and sometimes the -none can have a negative affect especially on young ladies. See Toilofday's comprehensive post here:
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You can add more ammo as you progress, but with pheromones the IOI can be quite subtle, like hair twirling, shift changes, space invasions (not the Alien type) but they can be missed so don't overdo it.

If you are going to use Instant Honesty be careful and not apply it somewhere it will affect you or you will be telling this girl how much you love her and she will get that "Oh no, he's needy" vibe and get out before it's too late. Be careful with this one. It can be used as a secret ingredient when things progress and creates sometimes overly chatty reactions, but brings out the truth. When I use it I would give out my credit card number and my pin number just because.

Turn Up The Heat : save for right before sex and again use sparingly. This is a sex cocktail and will heat it up. You don't want this girl to think that's all you're about. Maybe if things are moving into that realm, but never before or she might say all this guy wants is sex from me. That's not a good thing.

A314 : Interesting choice. I use it to garner respect and at my Old age it does what it's supposed to. I might stay away from this until after the relationship matures. Use it sparingly so she might get that I have a boyfriend who I can trust, is respectful and is sooo cool like James Bond. If you use this one too early she might believe you have to mature of a vibe and not be fun enough for her. It would be a great thing coupled with shine when meeting the parents.

Instant Openness : Look at my advice again for Instant Honesty and to me it's about the same. Coupled together they form a temper for each other. Open and honest, but not ridiculously chatty.

Again start off very slow, with very little to find your sweet spots.

I'm sure others will swing by to drop advice. Good luck and let us know how it goes for yah.
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Old March 5th, 2007, 08:05 PM   #3
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Default Re: Ok, some life important advice needed =P

Thanks a lot steveo
I'd love to have some more comments on this.. it's so damn important to me =/ and I dont want to overdose or make it negative in any way.

I'd like to attach that whenever wherever with whoever I go out, there will always be either booze or weed (its %50-%50, weed is legal here). Any negative or positive comments when also having one of those?
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Old March 6th, 2007, 03:48 AM   #4
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Default Re: Ok, some life important advice needed =P

I PMed ya, Flip.
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Old March 6th, 2007, 03:51 AM   #5
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Default Re: Ok, some life important advice needed =P

Here are my thoughts, FWIW.

To build a sexual relationship you need to build, in this order, safety, trust, respect (fear), and comfort. The respect/fear is tricky because it has to be just the right amount and you'll only learn how much is the right amount through practice. The excitement of attraction and lust comes from the fear, the willingness to allow the fear comes from the respect, saftey, trust, and comfort.

It's very tempting to want to use lots of stuff to help you out; you are in new and (emotionally) dangerous territory and you want all the amulets and totems you can have to protect you. My best advice to you is to resist that temptation and instead put all your faith in one thing at a time.

I recommend you start off the first few weeks using no pheros from your order but Ammo (and that in moderate doses). I recommend against smoking weed as it dulls your senses too much. Limit your alcohol, too, for similar reasons. Depending on your tolerance, probably one drink per hour is the upper limit. If you notice you are having the slightest bit of trouble with your balance, coordination, or pronounciation, you've had WAY too much. Err on the side of drinking too little. Your target is simply to feel a little more relaxed and talkative. If your girl wants to smoke or drink, let her, but don't let her have so much that she starts to have trouble walking, talking, thinking, or paying attention to you.

I'll leave it up to you about how you handle your current girlfriend. The unfortunate truth is that you will be much more attractive to the new girl while you're still having sex with someone else, but at the same time she may not trust you enough to sleep with you if she feels you are cheating on another girl. This is an endless debate with no right answer; it's a choice you have to make on what kind of man you want to be. I strongly advise you not to lie to or mislead anyone, but other than that there's no moral high or low ground in your choice. You can try talking your girlfriend into letting you "see other people" (probably not), you can break up with your girlfriend first and then try to sleep with the new girl, you can sleep with the new girl and then tell your girlfriend about it before you sleep with her again, or try something else. Just know that if your current girlfriend expects you to be exclusive, there is no way you are going to get away with trying to hide that you are sleeping with someone else.

Keep in mind also that your current girlfriend will remain in your social circle. Other women will ask her about you and believe what she says. You want to handle things in a way that she'll be a good "reference."
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Default Re: Ok, some life important advice needed =P

If you use A314 you can temper it with Instant Shine ... if you will be alone with her on a date, the Instant Shine isn't essential, but it can be fun.
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A lot of people have had problems with A314 on first or second dates with women of any age and problems at any time with younger women. Since you're in the early stages of dating a young woman, I recommend you avoid A314 with her entirely (or at least until you've slept with her on three separate days/nights).
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Default Re: Ok, some life important advice needed =P

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A lot of people have had problems with A314 on first or second dates with women of any age and problems at any time with younger women. Since you're in the early stages of dating a young woman, I recommend you avoid A314 with her entirely (or at least until you've slept with her on three separate days/nights).

Yes I agree. That's why I said this earlier in the thread. It creates a serious respect presence about you. You don't want her to respect you more than you want her to feel comfortable with you. It might make you seem like you are too high on the maturity plain for her rather than someone she can talk too and be friends with.
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Default Re: Ok, some life important advice needed =P

Ok here's my advice and sadly you probably won't take it because well you won't. I wouldn't have taken this advice when I started using pheromones either but it really is for the best. Use only one product at a time and get used to it, you will probably not get any results for the first 1-3 weeks with that item but eventually it'll just hit u like a brick and no it's not slight body motions or anything but like a duh smack in the face real obvious. I'd suggest starting with instant openness since I found it really easy to see the results since you just seem to make so many awesome jokes and all and people around you are funnier and happier and move up from there. As for the date, unless you've been well acquainted with everything for some time, you should only use the instant openness which will be pretty good on its own
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Default Re: Ok, some life important advice needed =P

its not a date. we're just like a big group and some people just hang around eachother on the streets or when some parents are home so we can make a small house-party :P

Last time (last weekend) I was there and I barely could speak... this was HELL for me as I was no fun at all and the girl was never close to me.

Drinkin mostly helps because it gets me a bit extra hyper as Im never really hyper... but I love to be it... if you know what Im saying =/

Without any drinkin next weekend, Im afraid nothings about to change.. unless there's pheromones that affect ME into talking more, smiling more, makin mor jokes etc.
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