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Old August 18th, 2011, 08:35 PM   #21
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To be curious... when you say it would effect our RU status... you saying that we can't report on A1 if we want to be a RU? Because once again if we are comparing Mx412 to A1, wouldn't we need to try to same mixes substituting A1 for Mx412 and visa versa in order to actually get the most "scientific" comparision?

More or less - I'm not in a position to go digging for it just now but there has been an announcement that AD won't consider any reports involving A1 because of the patent/past history situation and that whilst it is fine to discuss A1 more generally here, the reports will not be considered to contribute towards RU status and that current RUs posting a lot of reports needed to be aware that they could be weakening their status if they dwell on A1 reports to the exclusion of valuable stuff..

Saying all that, there is already a wealth of experience with A1 here, so many will already be able to make valid comparisons and you will also find that A1 interest comes and goes like a tide - Sometimes there will be thread after thread on it, then very little will be discussed for a few months.
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Old August 19th, 2011, 08:45 PM   #22
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If she indeed is a chronic "bitch" and not just having a bad day (then again, you don't sound to you know her too well to know this), then some A314 or A1 can fix the problem.

A1 or MX412: Perhaps she's constantly stressed out. A1 or the A1 alternative, MX412, has shown to relieve all kinds of stress in girls, whether it be PMS, lack of sleep, etc. However, if you are depression prone, I would avoid A1 and go for MX412, and even if you're not, it can still affect other guys around you in a negative way.

A314: If she is the type of girls that believes she is high status, some A314 can take you so you end up on the same level as her (respect wise). However, remember to find your sweet spot because too much and she'll be intimidated, and she'll exert the opposite effects that your're looking for.
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Old August 22nd, 2011, 03:05 PM   #23
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Default The OFFICIAL MX412/MX413 (vs A1/Androstadienone) Reporting Thread

MX413



Been testing MX413 for the last few days mainly on the GF, she responds extremly well to A1 so I was really interessted in seeing how 413 would affect her.

Things did'nt really start differing from baseline until I reached 4 sprays, I also started to notice self effects at this dosage which she seemed to be mirroring.

Bearing in mind we are still very much in the honeymoon period at the moment so this is also a big factor to take into account.

Effects noticed off Baseline or more Intense then usual

A strong need to be close to one another

We Both became much more tactile, stroking each others arms, face, hair

Locked eyes, for sometimes a few minutes without speaking a word

If we where holding hands she would every so often squeeze it really tight and let out a little groan.

It Almost was like we where in our own little bubble, the rest of the world did'nt matter.

Time went by really quickly and niether of us wanted to go to sleep at the end of the night

Sex was very slow, gentle, passionate.

The same feelings seem to transfer over into the morning and subsequently she was late for work

So is MX413 a viable replacement for A1?
At this early stage of testing it is difficult to say if this is worthy of taking the place of A1 in my arsenal, but I definitley see great potential.
The only thing I did'nt like was It made me feel a little too comfortable, it seemed to kill the conversation slightly and relaxed us a little too much, another thing was that she referred to me as cute on more then one occasion so Im wondering if this is making me come off as a bit vunerable or child like.

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Old August 29th, 2011, 03:50 AM   #24
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Thanks for the nomination guys.

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Excellent report. Sounds like MX412 increases the social potential of A314 .
It really does. I'm guessing MX412 is composed of mostly comfort and social molecules to help give it the social edge. The only thing it doesn't do is cause that mushy, crushy, vibe that A1 does however this is inconclusive because I need further tests to confirm it.

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Old September 5th, 2011, 06:46 PM   #25
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So now that my bottle of MX412 is almost gone, it's time for some reflecting. MX412 does indeed carry the comfort vibe, however I believe the main difference between MX412 and A1 is that MX412 is geared heavily towards the male user due to it's mood boosting capabilities. With MX412 I feel more confident, and yet so laid back. I compare it to A314 in terms of self-effects.

For comfort, I feel MX412 delivers but not in the same way A1 does. With MX412 it's like wearing A314 with TAC and IO. The women definitely feel comfortable and social, yet they don't "lose themselves". Now, don't get me wrong, I completely understand that pheros are not mind control HOWEVER, A1 had a tendency to...challenge that.

Bottom line: MX412 is much safer, and definitely more male/user friendly than A1. Also seems to pair up perfectly with A314 and gives A314's vibe a boost in confidence and sociability.

A1 is still more effective if the majority of people you'll be interacting with are women due to it's mood boosting effects on females. Also seems to have the edge over MX412 in terms of leaving lasting impressions although MX412+A314 seems to be just as good at leaving good impressions.
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This journal did record my attempts to woo an ex, but the goal has changed and I've suprisingly moved on (amazing what success will do,) so now I chronicle my thoughts on mones.


Stats Male, 21, Gay, South Michigan, Caucasian

Overall thoughts:

Instant Openness: Time-slowing, chatter inducing, conversation is enjoyable and speedy. People talk over one another, and only notice after a while. Fun for parties. Smells fantastic.

Instant Honesty: This is still sort of a mystery to me. I've not had the chance to do much intimate testing, but it has a sobering effect for me. Things are 'normalized' by it, and I find its more difficult to err, become inebriated while under the effect of IH .

Instant Gentleman: This needs some more playing with too. So far I find myself charismatic, almost similar to IS, but with more a314 leanings. I feel compassionate, in a father-to-their-child sort of way. Like everyones behavior is the result of their lack of experience, and I want to excuse them for it. Strong contrast to IJ .

Instant Jerk: 'I am awesome and I don't give a shit what anyone thinks because I am awesome.' IJ is potent. It should be, given the high -enone content. I think this stuff smells great though, and can stomach a few sprays in high social proof/leadership settings at clubs or parties with little negative feedback. Others comment that I seem like someone who doesn't take shit from anyone, and I don't fear negative outcomes. Makes me live in the moment and take risks. Always fun. I definitely think people shouldn't drive on it.

TAC: Interesting one. Calm mind. Clear thoughts. Meditative. I feel like there is a slight hum in my brain. Havn't tested the orgasm factor, but I feel like the touch aspect for me, makes touch more biased to seeming sensual. Little painkilling for me. Speech is less fluent than on IO but still natural and confident. It doesn't feel the 'urge' to flow though. I'm perfectly content remaining silent until I require to speak. Smells clean. Combined with P74 , my pulse is much slower- I average 46-57 beats per minute, using TAC .

A314/a (Rev 1.29a) I love a314 . Some seem to feel it can be too assertive and intimidating, and less James Bond. I love it for the self-effects, and feel more serious and confident in my ability to handle tasks as a leader. I see why this is so useful in corporate settings, and I've noticed that gay males love this and IS too. Smell is woodsy, and manly. Will be aqquiring some oil soon, as my togo of /a just ran out. Since many comment that a constantly varying pherosignature can result in seeming 'mercurial' or unreliable, I try to use A314 to create a good base and then alter everything else around that.

Turn Up The Heat I don't like this so much by itself yet- I'd rather use IJ when I'm in a scenario where I can handle the higher -enone dose. Probably needs more testing by itself for me- also the scent is much easier to accept in IJ than TUTH which yields to the boar-urine smell more easily. I've noticed that the subjective smell of -enone varies according to my mood. If I'm aroused or used to it, it leans more to a cool, almost ozone like, metallic-ness. The mental image I get from the scent is a very large, cold, metal circular plate, zinc or something weird.*I think that homosexuals are perhaps more sensitive to this- both because it can resemble a lack of cleanliness, and because of the 'straight male' intimidating style it carries. Androsterone is much preferred in this sense, (a chemical that homosexual males are noted to possess less of.)

Androstadienone I love this stuff. Theres so little data on how these chemicals act on gay males, and we're at a particular advantage in their use compared to straight males, who might respond neutrally or negatively. The feeling of A1 is exactly coziness and satisfaction with other potential mates- Like I would be fine dating them, am okay with their looks, even if they aren't particularly attractive. . It makes me feel a little warm and like I am sitting next to a fire on a couch. It's also difficult to motivate me away from whatever resting activity I'm doing, and I seem to not want social contacts to leave me. Ladyfriends seem to agree. Haven't run the PMS gauntlet with it yet. I was thinking about how to use A1 in interesting scenarios, and because some straight men respond with social withdrawn-ness, a gay male hoping to remove the social power of some straight males/lesbian females? and contain power for themselves towards other gay males and straight females might use A1.

Ammo 1.1 1x Like the smell of this. General good cologne, a great balance of social/sexuals. I use this if I don't have time or have no particular goals or testing wants. Will probably pick it up in 2x soon and gift my 1x to a friend. I get compliments on my 'cologne' on ammo often.

Instant Shine Love testing it on the unexposed. I compare IS to seriously being on a small amount of MDMA (ecstasy) 4-6 hour duration and then the crash, which I abhor. I just want to lay around and do nothing. Very useful on gays. I experience color and sound sensitivity on it. For me, the crash is strong enough that I don't use this in most scenarios.


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MX412 Was hopeful that it would compare to A1 , and so far I don't agree that it does. I feel that I don't want to talk on it- and while I feel confident about my thoughts, I was insecure and concerned about what others thought of me. There is definitely a calmness in other aspects of my life to it though. Needs more testing.

MX297 I don't like this so far. Insincere, clear thoughts, charismatic, sense enhancing, thirst inducing, good for getting work done, energetic- it does a lot, but the combination makes me suspicious of myself and very self-conscious. --Still fantastic for focus.

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P74: It took a while to see the effects of this one, but repeated use reveals a social togetherness- for me, it seemed to clear the awkwardness of an empty dance floor. Removes social judgement from peers and assuages self-consciousness in the favor of group-consciousness.

P75: Masculine, motivating, youthful signature. Don't fully understand it yet, but gays seem to like it.

P90: Fatherly. Parental compassion and watchfulness. Socially interested, but unique perspective.
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Default Re: The OFFICIAL MX412/MX413 (vs A1/Androstadienone) Reporting Thread

MX412 - My two cents. I have never had the opportunity to use A1 as a spray. I am scared of buying pheromones outside of Androtics Direct and since they do not offer it, I have resigned myself to not getting any. I do own Dial Magnetic body wash for men though, but I have not noticed anything out of the ordinary when I use Dial Magnetic compared to my other body washes. The few times I have used MX412 at a club, the ladies have been comfortable around me, however, I have been rejected almost every time I try to escalate anything close. Like hand holding, dancing close or trying to steal a kiss. I even used it with the project UF2 mixes to add some sensual oomph to the mix and it did not help any. Maybe if I was in a relationship, I could get different results with my significant other. This mix is not for closing ladies you just met at a club. It is also not a not a good mix for LMR. It fails every time. It needs something for the ladies to melt in your arms. I bought two 5 ml bottles, I may have to trade them, at least the unopened one to someone that it works for.
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I do have A1 on hand but opted not to really use it because I was serious about reporting for AD. I have used it once before with P83 with the girl in question around and it seemed to keep her light hearted and flirty. I haven't thought to try it with anything else because AD doesn't produce it anymore and since I trust AD very much I was worried they might have had good reason not to produce it anymore, probably because of those depressing side effects I heard about. The girl is 22-23 years old so I wasn't sure what was effective for someone around her age on someone who is my age 25. I will take it into consideration but I am still not 100% sold on it. I might try out MX412 and see how that goes since I trust AD above all else!

And thanks again ochrismongrelo, it is nice to have someone in your corner routing for you, it hasn't gone unnoticed and I think has helped me tremendously with keeping it real lol. It is true I am emotionally together, a great guy with a great job and his own apartment and she is fresh out of school and doesn't know what to do with her life. I think it is an awkward period for anyone to attempt romance but I have to try I have gotten this far. It would be a shame if I gave up now!

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I do have A1 on hand but opted not to really use it because I was serious about reporting for AD. I have used it once before with P83 with the girl in question around and it seemed to keep her light hearted and flirty. I haven't thought to try it with anything else because AD doesn't produce it anymore and since I trust AD very much I was worried they might have had good reason not to produce it anymore, probably because of those depressing side effects I heard about. The girl is 22-23 years old so I wasn't sure what was effective for someone around her age on someone who is my age 25. I will take it into consideration but I am still not 100% sold on it. I might try out MX412 and see how that goes since I trust AD above all else!

And thanks again ochrismongrelo, it is nice to have someone in your corner routing for you, it hasn't gone unnoticed and I think has helped me tremendously with keeping it real lol. It is true I am emotionally together, a great guy with a great job and his own apartment and she is fresh out of school and doesn't know what to do with her life. I think it is an awkward period for anyone to attempt romance but I have to try I have gotten this far. It would be a shame if I gave up now!

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As for A1, the cases of it causing depression were VERY rare and caused by some rather unscrupulous individuals. Another reason (from what I've heard anyhow,) that A1 isnt here anymore is something to do with a patent/trademark (or somethingrather) that to me it sounds like another company hijacked, until 2012.

That being said, A1 is still an allegedly powerful molecule. It might be interesting to see the effects of it mixed with IJ+IS+p83. Seems like it would cause a crapload of sexual tension.
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Interesting enough. I will have to bench the idea for now as I am just fed up with Jillian. She pissed me off for the last time. I gave her too many chances, curse of being a nice guy. I won't make that mistake again. Got myself a date with a new girl this Friday. I actually see myself dating this girl though so I am going to go with more social and less sexual for our first date. I definately think I am considering P83 with MX412 to see if it is a good alternative to A1 as AD claims. But I am torn I might try it with actual A1 instead, and then on a second date, if I am as awesome as I normally am that shouldn't be an issue, I will switch out the A1 with the MX412 and compare the two. I know I won't get credit with the original A1 mix but surely comparing A1 to MX412 and its effects on the same girl would be a good report to do. Finally I will probably add in my favorite social mone IH in hopes for deep meaningful conversations, or at least what she perceives as such. The goal is to leave a lasting impression that will keep me on her mind constantly, sort of like how this stupid idiot felt about Jillian this whole time. Keep an eye on my journal after Friday night for my full report. Thanks again with the advice on the Seduction Mix it was most helpful!

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