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Old November 2nd, 2007, 04:33 PM   #1
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**STOP**
**If you are new and have not read this thread byZeph**
http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/pheromone-faqs-12544.html
** Ksages great expectations post**
http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-ph...tml#post143784
** Another great post that may help many guys by Fire and Ice**
http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-ph...get-16756.html

Wow, the two month mark! I might as well post a few of my less than stellar phero adventures. I wouldn't have listened to me but there may be some smarter noobs out there who will heed these remarks.

First order was A314 , Instant Openness , Instant Honesty , Instant Shine , Instant Female Magic , Turn Up The Heat , CTTM .

I think the most phero-wasteful thing I did was changing signal too often. My first week I used A314 in the morning and then put on something else in the evening. That wasn't too bad. I got lots of compliments and questioning looks (What's different?) and attention from the A314 , and the evening that I wore CTTM I started something of a party in a slow checkout grocery line. After that though I was so anxious to get a feel for how the others worked that I would wear something different everyday. I tried wearing just Instant Shine and didn't see anything obvious right away like I did with the A314 and started the old spray on a little of everything routine. I ended up just creating a muddy confusing signal that then took a while to overcome.

Lesson, everybody reads it; it's hard to do. The best thing is to try one thing for a week, then try something else for a week. It takes your body time to adjust. It takes people around you time to adjust. Your mental focus needs time to adjust.

This reads like a lecture. Sorry, more stupid newbie tricks and a less paternal writing style to follow .
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Old November 2nd, 2007, 05:43 PM   #2
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hmm my next order is A314 and im noob too, I have tried Instant Shine TUTH , AMMO , Instant Openness , and Honesty and havnt really noticed anything major. Did CTTM really have that effect to it? because Openness and Honesty didnt really do nothing for me.
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Very good post renny. This is very true and one of the reasons people fail when they try pheromones. It takes more then the "instant" they right on the bottle.
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Old November 3rd, 2007, 01:17 AM   #4
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Oh, so when I get my stuff I should keep if fairly vanilla for a few days at a time, like, not drastically change from say Instant Openness & IS to Ammo the next?

What about a cyclical rotation, say:

Day 1: 4 sprays Instant Openness + 3 IS
Day 2: 4 sprays Instant Openness + 3 IS + 2 drops of A314
Day 3: 2 sprays Instant Openness + 3 IS + 2 drops of A314
Day 4: 3 sprays of IS + 2 drops of A314
Day 5: 2 drops of A314
Day 6: 2 drops of A314
Day 7: 2 drops of A314 + 2 sprays Instant Openness
Day 8: 2 drops of A314 + 4 sprays Instant Openness
Day 9: 4 sprays Instant Openness + 1 spray Ammo

Chuck a couple of phero-free days somewhere In there idk.

So like, you're building a regularity of a part of your phero signature, whilst phasing everything through, so you're not wearing a new sig each day, but gradually changing it, thoughts?
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Nope you need to do this.......

Use one product at a time for at least a week. Try to do a few days at each dosage in different settings. I will use a week as a example below though so you can get the general ideal

Lets use shine as a example.

Day 1. 1 spray to hair, Gage your self effects and any seen effects for the day.

Day 2. 1 spray to hair, 1 spray to chest. Gage your results

Day 3. 1 spray to hair, 1 to chest and 1 split to wrists. Gage your results

Day 4. 1 spray to hair, 1 to neck ,1 to chest, 1 split to wrists """""""""""

Day 5. Go back to day 1 or 2 and then reapply half way though the day.

Day 6. go back to day 3 and reapply a half dose of it half way though the day.

Day 7. Look back at your week and try to determine what you sweet spot is for dosage.

Then you move onto the next product by it self. After you tested those two then you can begin to make combo's with them.

This will be different for Androstenone based products. Lower dosage and no reapply needed.

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Well alright then, sounds good.
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Special K, listen to the lady with the amazonian avatars. Two notes here.

I edited my op for clarity. I'm going to try to use the following convention from here on... signature when I mean long term persona and signal when I mean a more short term feeling ( I feel really good today I'm going to use Instant Openness instead of Instant Honesty type of thing).

I'll put one caveat on the "one thing for one week" mantra, after all we're newbies and newbies just wanna have fun. If you're testing something like Instant Shine or one of the -nols during the day one week and a good party or some kind of get together comes up and you want to try your ammo go for it. Don't try the ammo and first product together. What I mean is if you put on Ishine for work in the morning it's going to be gone by the time the party at moe's house starts in the evening so it would be ok to try ammo at moe's party. it would be equally valid to reapply Instant Shine , but since the party is a better place to try ammo than work is, don't waste the chance just because you're using Instant Shine at work. Just don't go out every night of the week with something else on.
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jm1080, thanks for the great segue into my next stupid newbie trick. I hope it answers your question.

Looking for HITS. You probably won't see any hits if you're looking for them. Maybe the occasional compliment or difference in body language. If you're lucky a slight change in attitude. Pheromones are not magic potions. That's a cliche that is punted around this forum a lot. What does it mean?

Hits are not something you observe, hits are something you make happen. YOU CREATE THEM !!! jm1080 I'm going to pick on you and I'm going to rep you for letting me .

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I have tried Instant Shine Turn Up The Heat, AMMO, Instant Openness, and Honesty and havnt really noticed anything major.
Nope and you're not going to. Spraying something else isn't going to help. I tried that, wasted my pheros. For the record I think CTTM , IO , and IH are nearly the same. I have a lot more experience to gain to tell the difference.

The incident I referred to in my first post went like this. I had tried IO and IH on previous evenings and just like jm1080 I hadn't noticed anything major. That evening I go shopping with 3 sprays of cttm . I went up and down the aisles slowly, I smiled at everyone, I looked for hits. Nothing. I went to checkout. Three registers, all of them backed up and waiting for something. There was a couple in the line on my right. Everyone was standing there quiet, bored, annoyed whatever. Somebody came and opened another register two or three people, including the girl from the couple hurried to get in the new line.
Her guy just stood there looking straight ahead, she ended up on my left two lines over. Well she started whispering and motioning for him to follow her.
"Henry, psst Henry" stamps foot "get over here"
Henry was oblivious. Since she was looking past me I saw that some of the other folks thought she was talking to me and were looking at me.
"psst Henry!"
More people looked my way.
"SSSS, HENRY!"
Henry was looking straight ahead. So I just leaned over tapped him on the shoulder and said "Yo, she wants you" and pointed at the girl.
People just started giggling, the lady in front of me says "Oh I thought you were Henry" suddenly everyone is talking to me. "man that was funny" ect. ect. The giggling and talkativeness continued until I checked out and left.

CTTM started doing just what it says, it lightened the mood and made folks more talkative. IO or IH would've done the same thing I think. Had I just stood there and not moved to help poor Henry nothing would have happened. No Hit!

Well This is getting a little long but I hope it illustrates my point.

Lesson, don't look for hits. Wear your pheros and move around and do things and meet people. Say Hi. You've been sitting next to a hot girl in class for an hour when it's over ask to see her notes. Do Something!
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Great post and example/report, there Renny! Reps for that! I'm loving this thread so far.

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Hmm righto Renny, sounds good - Yeap. I think this week will be trials of Instant Openness for school.

Application at 8am for school.
Application at 4pm for work on Tues/Thurs.

So seeing as it's a completely different environment at work I think I'll be right to trial A314 , nobody there that I see outside of work anyway, I'm an alpha there already so just looking for an improvement in intensity, better responses. More details in my journal.

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