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Old December 16th, 2017, 08:39 PM   #11
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Oils diffuse slower then alcohol then last longer. Alcohol diffuses faster and falls off quicker. So you would have the alcohols hitting right away and the oils hitting later if used in combo applied separately not mixed... This would be good in a mix where your alcohols are social in nature and would hit right away to generate comfort, friendliness and trust, then the alpha/sexual in oil to hit a little stronger later as the socials wear off and hit a bit less... I know catlord played around with that, and two vendors have blends that do that.... But you would have TUTH hitting without buffers first since its alcohol, then TAC would hit later unless you applied TAC earlier.... Other blends try to keep a balance the whole time instead neither being too social or too sexual but enough of each all the time...

Oils to me are best for blends that hit too harsh or in your face in alcohol to slow them down and make the sig more realistic. Or during hot summer or climates. I prefer them in mixes that hit over time, such as imprinters, bonding mixes or single molecules like P96 would be ok, spending time with someone on dates all day or many hours, and prefer alcohol when I want impact quicker like bars/clubs/daygame

The problem with a couple vendors is that they use too much perfumers alcohol or ethanol to fixative like PG or DPG, and so the mix in alcohol can hit more harsh/in your face as mentioned. If they adjusted more % PG/DPG it would fix the issue by also slowing down the diffusion rate.

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Oils diffuse slower then alcohol then last longer. Alcohol diffuses faster and falls off quicker. So you would have the alcohols hitting right away and the oils hitting later if used in combo applied separately not mixed... This would be good in a mix where your alcohols are social in nature and would hit right away to generate comfort, friendliness and trust, then the alpha/sexual in oil to hit a little stronger later as the socials wear off and hit a bit less... I know catlord played around with that, and two vendors have blends that do that.... But you would have TUTH hitting without buffers first since its alcohol, then TAC would hit later unless you applied TAC earlier.... Other blends try to keep a balance the whole time instead neither being too social or too sexual but enough of each all the time...

Oils to me are best for blends that hit too harsh or in your face in alcohol to slow them down and make the sig more realistic. Or during hot summer or climates. I prefer them in mixes that hit over time, such as imprinters, bonding mixes or single molecules like P96 would be ok, spending time with someone on dates all day or many hours, and prefer alcohol when I want impact quicker like bars/clubs/daygame

The problem with a couple vendors is that they use too much perfumers alcohol or ethanol to fixative like PG or DPG, and so the mix in alcohol can hit more harsh/in your face as mentioned. If they adjusted more % PG/DPG it would fix the issue by also slowing down the diffusion rate.
Hmm.. very interesting. I find that my TUTH / tac mixes tend to last as strong (if not stronger) up to nearly 24hours after application. Don't know why.. but I get all the same effects usually until the next day.
I would like to convert this mix to exclusively oil to make things simpler and not have such a large area of my application point covered in mones .
Maybe I'm dreaming...
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Old December 17th, 2017, 02:53 AM   #13
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Hmm.. very interesting. I find that my TUTH / tac mixes tend to last as strong (if not stronger) up to nearly 24hours after application. Don't know why.. but I get all the same effects usually until the next day.
I would like to convert this mix to exclusively oil to make things simpler and not have such a large area of my application point covered in mones .
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Androstenone is sticky and lasts into the next day and even 2. That is why people can get buildup if using heavier Enone blends several days in a row without cleaning the app points with something like witch hazel each night and even that doesnt clear it completely. It is adding more to the amount still left on your skin each time (plus whatever your base already is pumping out each day to begin with)... When your Dhea levels are low some people get good results from this since their levels are overall slightly higher each day to begin with and why hits can fluctuate day to day, but eventually for anyone the level will become too high temporarily and you then need to add more social buffer... Off the top of my head, P96 seems to fix any OD effect but I'm sure just adding another buffer like IO / IH /IS/ TAA / P86 / TAC might do the trick to bring it back down....

Also something to keep in mind is that its VERY sticky on things like clothing and can last for weeks without heat adding to the total. Its a killer to get off glass. Dry cleaning seems to work.

This is also why I think those guys on the other forums who use pheromones every day and switch up blends really arent reporting proper testing, as if you use a heavy enone /erone blend then a purely social the next day, you can still have residual effects from the previous application. For pure testing I would suggest to wait a day in between dosing changes and reporting..

TAC is in a different category but a single molecule (TA_) so it may not be among the body scent pheromone candidates, my guess was L-Arginine (a amino acid) only based on similar effects used orally. An oil version on a fresh app would just take a bit longer to start diffusing is all, it already lasts awhile for enone ...

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Well Molecule C ( TAC ) in oil at least is back so far in the Androtics.com store I see. Jdub bought it so I look forward to hearing any differences from the slower diffusion although it has stealth so that should help in that regard. I'd try it at 3 drops first (7.5x3 = 22.5). Im down to one bottle of the 30ml spray at 10mcg per spray I bought from direct right before they moved. The bottle I got in trade also are now only in the memories of sexy women all over the east coast, a few on the west, and one from overseas I am hoping spray will be back with labs at some point, unsure if the other seller with the experimones license will sell it also. Lets just say the ladies are asking as well....

I'm scrapping using it also for social purposes or just fun general use right now, and am asking myself...

Is she TAC worthy?

Shouldnt it be named molecule X or molecule O


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Look forward to hear more about the oil version. I ordered this back in January, still waiting on my order..will post review when/if i receive it.
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Look forward to hear more about the oil version. I ordered this back in January, still waiting on my order..will post review when/if i receive it.
Yes I havent seen much on the oil version either. Since thats stocked in the new store now, might want to chat with olivia over there when she is around. They might just ship you one to fill the order or I know from my own experience they also will give people credit for their outstanding direct order plus the early adopter discount (since its a direct order thats outstanding) toward whatever you want such as if you ordered tuth but want something like hunted instead. Both Dee and Olivia have said/posted Jasmin is slowly working on the direct backlog orders otherwise. I'm sure that part is slow going due to her health situation. Michael Harris had flown in to help build up initial stock for the new store due to the situation.

Not sure if they still have these, but a month ago when I ordered A314 classic and Hunted they mentioned they had two Molecule C 5 mcg /spray in neroli 5ml as well.

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I?ve ordered, received and tested molecule C oil and so far it is amazing.

Firstly I?m loving the stealth I really don?t smell anything. The diffusion is impressive as well as I took datadragons advice and have been using about 3 drops 22.5mcgs with some enone and it buffers it really well and I can really feel and see the Molecule C in action.
To be honest I feel no difference in the oil vs spray mcg for mcg .
C oil is hitting the orgasm spot for women as well no problem.
The little bottle it comes in is very pro looking, even the dropper - it?s different than other droppers I?ve encountered.
I?m happy the C is still around as it is perhaps my favorite molecule. And this oil seems to have just made things even easier. I?m hoping one day that they will be able to release higher strengths for mixing purposes.
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The molecule C oil works well. Its pretty good.
It does what its supposed to do.
Unfortunately my experience was short lived...I spilled the bottle.
But it was a great nigh, guess you cant OD on this stuff
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I can personally say... you can't OD on Molecule C . As long as you are always ready to adapt whenever a situation escalates or de-escalates.
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