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Old January 18th, 2012, 03:19 AM   #151
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Default Re: Meyers-Briggs 'typing' & pheromones

I think there is some real neat numbers for this forum.

In the world at large, the ratio of S:N Types is around 70%S:30%N.

The other axis E:I, F:T, J:P are all around 50%:50%.

But to the contrary, the results from this forum show
9.5 S:40.5 N
a 19%S:81%N split

(some people like Carrie, European5, and LucidDreamer were split between 2 types, that's where the .5's come from)

That is far from normal, showing that N types are either far more likely to post here. But what that means??? Are N types more receptive to mones , or are N types just looking to try new things? What could it mean?

And do certain molecules work on certain types better than others?
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That is far from normal, showing that N types are either far more likely to post here. But what that means??? Are N types more receptive to mones , or are N types just looking to try new things? What could it mean?

And do certain molecules work on certain types better than others?
I'm not an N but I love trying new things absolutely..
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Realised I didn't actually post my type, I'm an ISTP...
My faves tend to be androstenone like Ammo , IG , together with beta androstenol - IH etc..
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showing that N types are either far more likely to post here. But what that means??? Are N types more receptive to mones, or are N types just looking to try new things? What could it mean?
It could also be that these types are more likely to share what there personality type is, or have an interest in the subject vs the other types having less interest.

At the same time too the website could act as a filter making it so that the N personality is more likely to participate on a forum where as the other personality types would have other interests.

I'm an ENTP but sometimes I revert into an introvert INTJ like in a phase..

Always found this stuff interesting, I have a more qualified test from university as opposed to a web test.
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Old January 23rd, 2012, 08:47 PM   #155
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Always found this stuff interesting, I have a more qualified test from university as opposed to a web test.
The test is quite simple sometimes, there are ultimately only 4 questions. E/I, N/S, F/T, J/P. Once you have those 4, You can stop testing yourself. Once you have those answers the fun is in learning what it means and using it.

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I'm an ENTP but sometimes I revert into an introvert INTJ like in a phase..
I've wondered about people (like myself, I sit on the F/T fence, Sometimes identifying with the ENTP-INVENTOR (Rational) as much as my main type ENFP-CHAMPION (Idealist)) who are sitting on the fence, does that make us seem moody, like when a situation arises and from experience we know that our preferred skill set doesn't work well, we dig deep and use our non-preferred skill set to power thru situations where we have learned we have to use our non-prefered way.

I wonder if people who are right on the line can seem sort of Bi-Polar if they are continuously flipping back and forth between types. Like EXTJ where N/S is close to 0. Flipping between ESTJ-SUPERVISOR (GAURDIAN) & ENTJ-FIELDMARSHAL (RATIONAL)
SP-ARTISAN
ESTP-PROMOTER
ISTP-CRAFTER
ESFP-PERFORMER
ISFP-COMPOSER
SJ-GAURDIAN
ESTJ-SUPERVISOR
ESFJ-PROVIDER
ISTJ-INSPECTOR
ISFJ-PROTECTOR
NF-IDEALIST
ENFJ-TEACHER
INFJ-COUNSELOR
ENFP-CHAMPION
INFP-HEALER
NT-RATIONAL
ENTJ-FIELDMARSHAL
INTJ-MASTERMIND
ENTP-INVENTOR
INTP-ARCHITECT

Some letters are Biggies. The S/N is the biggest I think. There is a large wall between N types and S types for communication. N types using abstract communication and S types using "Concrete" communication. (see Keirsey, Please Understand Me II) after that, for relationship things you can mix it up. Kiersey said that the most solid relationships are N-N or S-S because they can talk the same language, seems important. But he also said that relationships are better with an I-E, one person being an I, the other an E.

Any relationship can work, and if you understand these things about personality, you can really start to understand people. The same sentence can mean 2 very different things to people of different personality types. Just as different situations/environments can be verrrrrry different levels of comfort.

If anyone would like to know where to get the .pdf version of Keirsey, Please Understand Me II send me a PM. I always buy them hard copy at Amazon and give them away as gifts to people. It is an AWESOME, MUST READ BOOK, that should be up there with the Holy Bible, another book that too many people don't read.
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Here is something to help with other people, from the book "The Art of SpeedReading People", by Paul D. Tieger and Barbara Barron-Tieger.

These were the lists in the book, another highly rated book by me.
see a table attached as a .pdf
These will help you identify OTHER PEOPLE, based on knowing YOUR MBTI Yersonality Type

Extraverts may see Introverts as:
• secretive; too private
• impersonal and unfriendly
• withholding and self-absorbed
• slow and uncooperative
• socially awkward

Introverts may see Extraverts as:
• too talkative; apt to shoot from the lip
• intrusive and pushy
• superficial and disingenuous
• hyperactive and overwhelming
• rude and bossy

Sensors may see iNtuitives as:
• flighty and erratic
• unrealistic
• impractical
• having their heads in the clouds
• too complicated and theoretical

iNtuitives may see Sensors as:
• unimaginative and uncreative
• boring; resistant to new things
• stodgy: sticks-in-the-mud
• lacking vision
• simplistic

Thinkers may see Feelers as:
• illogical
• overemotional
• weak
• hysterical
• irrational

Feelers may see Thinkers as:
• cold
• insensitive
• uncaring
• inhumane
• hard-hearted

Judgers may see Perceivers as:
• lazy and/or unproductive
• chronically late; apt to miss important deadlines
• not serious enough
• irresponsible and unreliable
• procrastinators; incapable of making decisions

Perceivers may see Judgers as:
• rigid and unyielding
• inflexible and stubborn
• controlling
• apt to regard things as too black and white
• apt to make decisions too quickly




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I'm also an ISTJ
foxybx,
have you found any mones that have self effects for you? Good and/or Bad?

I'm asking because and ISTJ is very close to an ESTJ, and my wife is an ESTJ.

I've found that she reacts very differently to pheromones based on hormone levels, go figure huh. But the differences in hormones I've seen are based on:
1. Her specific baseline hormones (everyone is a little biologically different)
and then,
2. Is she using hormone birth control (pills/IUD)
3. Time of month (menstrual cycle)
4. Pregnancy (go figure, but big change in reactions when she was pregnant last year.)

And non-hormone factors
5. Medication. Adderall-Active/Sexy, Vyvanse-Active/Sexy, Wellbutrin-Hornier, SleepAid-Libido Killer.
6. Food. If she's hungry she's grumpy, If she's just eaten she is happier.

So based on how many of these factors are in play, I get different results using the same mones .
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Here is something to help with other people, from the book "The Art of SpeedReading People", by Paul D. Tieger and Barbara Barron-Tieger.

These were the lists in the book, another highly rated book by me.
see a table attached as a .pdf
These will help you identify OTHER PEOPLE, based on knowing YOUR MBTI Yersonality Type
Thanks a lot, this is very useful and especially teaching others.
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A statistic that is worth reporting.
The T-F axis is VERY skewed sex wise.
Men are 2:1 and Women are 1:2.
Meaning
66% of Men are T (Thinking Type), 33% are F (Feeling Type)
33% of Women are T (Thinking Type), 66% are F (Feeling Type)

Doesn't this totally give credibility to some stereotypes? How could this apply with mones ? Could stereotypical "Male" mones work differently on T type women?

I wondered about this with Diane999, who is against -None usage, while she is a (T) type. Her reasons are her own, but is there something about personality type that shows some sort of biological marker with the stereotype rule for T-men/F-women, and shows that there may be exceptions with the F-men/T-women?
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Doesn't this totally give credibility to some stereotypes? How could this apply with mones ? Could stereotypical "Male" mones work differently on T type women?

I wondered about this with Diane999, who is against -None usage, while she is a (T) type. Her reasons are her own, but is there something about personality type that shows some sort of biological marker with the stereotype rule for T-men/F-women, and shows that there may be exceptions with the F-men/T-women?
My experience with a T type woman (though lately she started to think she may be an F-woman, which I don't think she is) is that high -none usage is required... and it helps a lot.
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