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Old September 27th, 2011, 08:40 PM   #1
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Question Love-Shy / Incel Boards.

After reading through some of the posts on here by TFL/INCEL(involuntarily celibate)/LOVE-SHY men, (specifically the user that went by 'Advanced' on here,) I elected to go over to their board and give some friendly, and helpful advice.

No, seriously! I was REALLY wanting to offer up some positivity....

Well, I tried anyhow.

That place is the most self-loathing, defeatist bunch of 'men' that I have ever seen.

(Note: This doesn't apply to all of their users, but a good deal of them, it does, from what I've read there...)

I understand that men sometimes have problems getting women, approaching them, whatever, but SHEESH.... is it really to the point where we have that kind of woman-bashing going on?

Things that I 'learned' from their forum (sarcasm, ahem ahem..):

A. Love-Shyness is apparently a psychological disorder (according to them) that causes people to be too nervous to flirt with women and sometimes talk to them - not limited to causing anxiety and panic attacks when women come near/touch a loveshy guy. That must really suck at work.

B. Women should approach the men, dammit! Because it's just NOT FAIR that guys have to approach the women!

C. Dating is Rigged in favor of women.

D. If you're (dishonestly) friends with a woman because you are interested in her for dating, sex, or both, and you show no indication, and she throws you in the friend zone, it's HER FAULT for apparently not being psychic, and she's a "total effing *$#*#$" (amongst other derogatory terms) for not being a psychic and reading your damned mind.

E. The men from the 'True Forced Loneliness' videos on You Tube know more about women than anyone. (I guess that explains why Bill and Steve from that misogynistic cult have SO many chicks... not.)

F. PUA /Social Dynamics is a big scam. On the other hand it's "underhanded and catering to the feminazi regime". (So apparently to these guys it both works but is underhanded, yet doesn't work and is a scam at the same time... go figure.)

G. The best thing for an Incel/Love-shy person to do is to sit on their computer and rant about how much women suck, how lonely they are, how much life sucks, and how much women hate them, and how much they hate women. (As opposed to actually going out and trying to be friendly with people and IMPROVE their lives.)

H. Incel's believe that the best advice comes from other incels, as opposed to people who are successful with dating. (Kinda like saying that it's better to bitch about not being able to start your car to another guy you know with car problems, than to take a course in auto mechanics from a guru.)

I. Clubs are useless to meet a woman at, as well as any other place, unless you're really good looking.

J. Personality, Confidence, Mannerisms, and Humor don't matter at all because looks are 99% of what a woman cares about, according to the incels. (Seems as though since they're not too good at their dating success ratio, they'd want to re-examine that stance....last I checked, women don't like a self-loathing misogynist.)

K. There is no black and white with these people, apparently. It seems that women only go for 'jerks' as opposed to the forum-members who are 'nice guys'... see 'D' for their opinion of what a 'nice guy' is.

J. The forum members have gone so far as to compile lists of rebuttals for members to use to anyone who calls Incel out for being the BS that it is.

Anyhow, that's a wrap.

I guess misery loves company.

The sheer negativity from the folks on that board (some of them, anyhow,) are one of the myriad of reasons that I thank God that we have such an awesome, POSITIVE, friendly forum.

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I guess I'm a jerk, which explains why I get so many babes!
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I guess I'm a jerk, which explains why I get so many babes!
And you are lucky to always get babes with psychic powers.


It's interesting to watch people losing so much time for complaining instead of self improvement.
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I guess I'm a jerk, which explains why I get so many babes!
I hear ya, Steve. What has really struck me, after getting involved with some of the threads on the incel boards (as well as watching some of the TFL videos on youtube) is that a lot of guys on there seem - from my observational standpoint - to think very much in terms of black and white.....

Either you're a 'nice guy' or you're a 'total jerk' - from the perspectives that I've seen there. They don't seem to account for a middle ground of being both fun, cocky, humorous, a 'player' (like the 'total' jerk), and yet friendly and respectful to everyone (nice guy). That middle ground is where the success does lay - James Bond anyone?

The man who goes into socializing, being fun & funny, confident, yet nice to everyone until he has a reason not to, and isn't a player - yet has his options and considers himself just as much of a prize as any female '10', is where that all powerful Alpha Archetype is at.

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Point "G" is what makes the difference between someone who excels vs someone who doesn't... a mind frame or positioning thats holds them back from expanding constructively. It really is the opposite of what brings people here, looking to expand upon themselves.
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Hi, i'm an unofficial representative of the LS board, and once this thread came to my attention felt somewhat obliged to offer a less biased and distorted view about it, if anyone happens to want to know. First off, we really have nothing to do with TFL. Although OP kept referring to us in the same sentence as them on the forum, as if he wanted us to be. I can't promise to represent all of the many varying opinions (which were arbitrarily squashed together here in an effort to imply self-contradictory views) but i'm generally competent at displaying the majority picture.
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Hi, i'm an unofficial representative of the LS board, and once this thread came to my attention felt somewhat obliged to offer a less biased and distorted view about it, if anyone happens to want to know. First off, we really have nothing to do with TFL. Although OP kept referring to us in the same sentence as them on the forum, as if he wanted us to be. I can't promise to represent all of the many varying opinions (which were arbitrarily squashed together here in an effort to imply self-contradictory views) but i'm generally competent at displaying the majority picture.
Thanks for stopping by and clearing this up. Your opinion is welcome and I like the idea of your coming along. I'm curious as to what you have to offer.
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