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Always remember that you aren't alone- you have friends with you.

Please let Jasmin know that her and her family are in our thoughts and prayers as well. This is too much.
What Snoopy said, Michael. I might be 1000s of miles away and unable to do anything, but use all legal means to take them down.

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It bears mentioning that a user on here named Visionary (the one from Australia) also says there's quite a bit of crossover between what seems to be sociopathy and some forms Asperger's syndrome, as well as extreme forms of ADHD.

I don't understand these connections yet, so I feel very uncomfortable even breaching the subject. However, it does seem somehow relevant. There may be underlying pathology behind certain actions that goes beyond what is mentioned in books such as "The Sociopath Next Door".
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Unfortunately, I only have 16 hours a day like everyone else (20 when I really push it)... and frankly... this is all just very overwhelming to me. It's not easy getting a grasp of everything I seem to need to learn right now.

1. There are logistical problems with our cart and the way merchant processing is changing.

This issue is now being forced by virtue of changes to PayFlow Pro. Yet switching over carts at the moment is not a a trivial thing even when you have all the time in the world. It's even worse with everything else going on.

2. There's legal changes in the US -- that started somewhere around '89 but have come to a fore here recently, especially --- that have made our soil a very unwelcome place for innovation based companies. These need to be dealt with in a full-time manner as much as any sociopath.

The legal system in the US, you could say, is itself "sociopathic" when it comes to innovators. You tell a lawyer you want to make a new Menlo Park or Bell Labs here in the US, and they either laugh or feel the need to "educate you" about why that's not really possible anywhere.

I almost feel like a "business structure" expert lately, with all that I've needed to learn about how to actually push innovations ahead despite the strange laws that now govern us here in the US.

It has also made me feel uneasy to realize that there's dissonance between what the US is advertised as, and what it really is these days. Being very reality oriented, almost to be point of being an objectivist (Ayn Rand inspired, although I'm more spiritual than Rand), I'm always unhappy when I see false advertisements. When seeing up close and personal that a country itself is operating itself in a way different than the way it's advertising itself... well... geez.. that really hits me in the gut. Makes me sad, really.

3. There's, of course, the things I actually like working on. The new diffusion system, Ammo v2, etc.

This is usually what I prefer as my full time job. Well, this and developing other little technologies.

I'm not the most social person in the world. I don't have a "way" with words or anything like that. I can easily take me an hour or 3 to write a PM. That's why I find people like Jasmin invaluable, because she can "represent" the guys in the back in a way we never could.

I'm just a guy who likes making stuff, and little more. I especially like making things that somehow tangibly improve the life of the user. Anything other than making things, and making things of a positive nature, I feel sort of displaced and uneasy.

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3b. There's a little medical impediment I have to testing some of these things on my own. Something too embarrassing to even talk about here. A few people I know well enough know about it, much to my horror. It's definitely slowed my own testing the past year and half while I've been effected by it. I've wanted a replacement (or at least an amazing assistant) for awhile now to speed testing back up.

As much as it'll feeds the black hearts of sociopaths, I can't help but saying, guys... I am overwhelmed. I'm doing my best, but I really need several clones of me to do the type of job I really like to do.
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At this point in time, all I can say is that I've never more grateful for LE, especially the federal level guys, than I am now. I've always tried to help detectives when I can in my areas of speciality, but most of my life, I haven't really needed their help myself. I do now, and I can say that truly appreciate these folks.

To those of you reading who are in LE, thank you. Most people like us don't even know how to comprehend the actions of the truly evil. The service you guys provide by being that "bridge" between the world of the innocents and the definitely not innocent, is invaluable. I can't thank you enough for taking what must be a very difficult job at times, with some of the things you guys have to see. You'll always have our support.
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Sadly, I have had dealings in my like with bona fide sociopaths and I mean that in the actual sense of the term, not some knee jerk reactionary comment. I would suspect that the inability to process what is normal and typical for a human being is utterly lost on a sociopath, much the same as it is lost on one with Asperger's/Autism. In all cases, it is an issue where the individual is unable to perceive their behavior as right or wrong, moral or just. These are not terms that have any meaning. Empathy and compassion simply do not function on sociopaths and are quite often missing in individuals with Asperger's/Autism.

I imagine that must be the crossover that he meant. In all cases, it is a condition that that the individual is unable to function and process social norms in a typical fashion. We are just learning about the spectrum disorder of Asperger's/Autism and there is a lot of work on sociopathy (psychopathy). A true sociopath cannot change their behavior on their own and in most cases cannot recognize that it is even a deviant behavior.

On a personal note, I had an experience with a sociopath and it was truly stunning that individuals like that exist. The absolute moral indifference, the rich fantasy life, the inability to feel empathy are but a few observations I made up close and personal. Even as one that finds the good in experiences, that was not a positive one for me. It is the dark side of humanity and even though they are a very small part of the human race, it is frightening to know that they exist as they do.

MHarris, I am sorry to hear of these developments. I am glad to hear that LE is involved and though "the wheels of justice turn slowly, they grind exceedingly fine."

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WOW I am so saddened to hear this news. I read up on the other thread about the attacks on Jasmin. To have it happen again is horrible. I certainly hope that everyone is ok. Its crazy to be attacked. Just yesterday I got a call from my credit card company. Somehow my card was used to make several purchases internationally. It is a card I very rarely use. I felt so violated, but I could not imagine being attacked so close to home. Especially around my family. My heart goes out to her. As well as everyone else there. I have not been here that long like many others, but I see how you treat everyone like family. I cannot understand how someone could get a sense of pleasure by hurting someone that tries to create happiness and joy in others lives. I will certainly check out this book. I will pray for you all, Jasmin and her children. I don't wish ill on many but I hope whoever is responsible will get everything they deserve and more from our legal system. Especially several "personal" attacks from fellow inmates while they are in prison.
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 04:33 AM   #17
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Guys, seriously... pardon me for not having a way with words, especially when emotionally charged up.

I know at times like this, some people like to harp all over spelling or grammar mistakes. I know that's their way of helping, but honestly, it doesn't help. I know some of you have English degrees or you're in PR. In a different context, with more time available, criticism of this nature could probably help. However, during a crisis it just doesn't.

I don't need or want sympathy, but I equally don't want needless distraction, either. If I'm asking for anything here, it's understanding... and I'm also asking for some of you to educate yourselves better so you can understand the scope and reality of certain situations.

Also -- I'm sorry to be so honest, but frankly, there are also those who've gone onto to try to re-victimize the victimized, or otherwise don't have any empathy. I said empathy, not pity or sympathy. Again, I could care less about the latter. I'm not the little boy crying wolf. Like any real man, I hardly ever cry real tears, nevermind fake ones. There are real wolves here. Period.

For those of you who don't believe us, because we don't have the superficial charisma of a sociopath, contact me and I'll send you the contacts to the FBI and others who you can verify this with.

This is a real, serious matter, with real law enforcement and very real lawyers involved. This is not something synthesized by some maniac (well, it is, but I'm not that maniac!)

This is not some show for a forum, or some game. This is not reality TV guys, this is reality.

If you think it's anything but what it is, then YOU are being exploited by a true sociopathic showman or gameplayer. I've been nothing but transparent here. I simply don't have the online charisma to do anything but present facts. My own products don't work online!

And now to be REALLY honest:

For those who don't care one way or the other... or who know the reality of what's going on here, and still don't care, well... you probably are a sociopath yourself. You probably have no conscience. If that's you, you should probably find yourself elsewhere, especially therapy, before you find yourself in prison.

To be very clear:

Sociopaths and those with extreme antisocial disorders are not welcome here on the forum. They're not welcome to buy from us, or even to think about us or to mention us anywhere.

We don't want your money, we don't want your attention. As far as I'm concerned, just pretend we don't exist. Avoid our property entirely.

If I want anything for you, it's for you to get well. However, after studying sociopathy, I'm not even sure that's possible. Yet that doesn't mean you shouldn't try. You should try to do the right things, you should force yourself to have positive habits, before someday someone removes you permanently from society.

There. I've said my peace.

Anyone I offend here -- good. I can't see any good person being offended by a damn thing I've said, as long they know I'm being honest.

Anyone I didn't. Good. I love you guys. You are "humanity", the people who are humane enough to be human. You're the only reason I even continue this project.

I'm a real person. I bleed when hurt. So does our staff. So do their children.

We're fairly simple people with simple wants and desires to do well for ourselves in life, by doing well for others.

True altruism is the best way to be "selfish". Ever. Basic human kindness is good for everyone.

Zig Ziglar really got that when he said "You can get everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want."

That couldn't be more true, and that's exactly what every honest person does to get ahead in life. There is no other path.

96 out of 100 people really "get that", and it's those people I care about. The 4% of people with sociopathic tendencies who drag the rest of the 96 down... get the fuck out of here. You're repugnant and not wanted, by anyone, anywhere. Get yourself into therapy or read good books that aren't "soft on you". I recommend someone who won't BS you about your problems. Someone like Dr. Peter Breggin, http://breggin.com/index.php?option=...204&Itemid=100.

I hate that Breggin wraps everything up in some sort of political message (left or right, political speech is almost always incorrect), but aside from this sort of superficial error, the core of what he says is nothing short brilliant. Here's a good one on how people are now showing zombie-like traits. http://breggin.com/070609.m3u

He reminds people to be good to others, and themselves to really heal, and to heal the world. That's the long and short of it, folks. Everything else is salad dressing. It's just flashy, controversial stuff he says to get on the radio.

Peter McWilliams had some good books, too, like "Life 101". Robert Ringer also has brilliant stuff to teach practical, every day ethics.

As for the rest of you, I'll do the very best I can for you. As I always have, and will always continue to until my dying day. Life is about making things better for others, and enjoying what we all make with each other. Nothing less, and maybe more... but nothing less!
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Here's a brilliant talk about psychiatry and self-responsibility.

http://breggin.com/responsibility.m3u

Again, try to discard any political speech. It's used to gain attention on the radio, but I think it taints the message needlessly. It's a very useful talk otherwise.

I'd link to someone else, but most psychiatrists and psychologists don't talk extensively about personal responsibility. That's really too bad.
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Peter McWillians' put all of his books online for free before he died:

Peter McWilliams - All of my books online, for free

Actually, I think it was a few years before he did.

While he was a somewhat controversial figure, and I didn't agree with everything he says or does (or everything anybody says or does), frankly, I don't give a darn. If you can look past the cover, his core work was great.

I'll seek to understand and share with just about anybody who doesn't intentionally hurt other people. He, interestingly, even wrote a book about this called "Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do"

http://www.mcwilliams.com/books/books/aint/

Anybody can get along with a basic semblance of ethics. With basic kindness as their base from which to connect with other people, even if they don't "agree" on everything.

This is where the true sociopaths step over the line. They hurt people for no reason at all, other than to see the pain. To see the "effect" they have on the world. To see the horror. That, my friends, is sick. It's a type of sickness few of us will ever understand.
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Sadly, I have had dealing in my like with bona fide sociopaths and I mean that in the actual sense of the term, not some knee jerk reactionary comment. I would suspect that the inability to process what is normal and typical for a human being is utterly lost on a sociopath, much the same as it is lost on one with Asperger's/Autism. In all cases, it is an issue where the individual is unable to perceive their behavior as right or wrong, moral or just. These are not terms that have any meaning. Empathy and compassion simply do not function on sociopaths and are quite often missing in individuals with Asperger's/Autism.

I imagine that must be the crossover that he meant. In all cases, it is a condition that that the individual is unable to function and process social norms in a typical fashion. We are just learning about the spectrum disorder of Asperger's/Autism and there is a lot of work on sociopathy (psychopathy). A true sociopath cannot change their behavior on their own and in most cases cannot recognize that it is even a deviant behavior.
Interesting.

Yes, I can see the overlap.

So you're saying a sociopath would be unable to change, whereas one with Asperger's could make a conscious effect to learn the perceptual spectrum of the rest of us, and thus become sensitive to the impact of their behaviors?

I remember once upon a time I helped someone who was at least partially "austic".

They had a fascinating book, huge book, that showed them with pictures and captions how to "act normal". Since losing contact with this individual, I've been (casually enough) trying to find that book ever since. Haven't found it yet.

I figure it could be of some aid to some of the people here, or heck, even just understanding body language and supposedly "normal" human functioning overall. Not one of us is 100% "normal", so it was a fascinating book, indeed. Like some sort of insanely meta "Miss Manners" guide.

So you're in a psych class, or are you something heavier, like Quantico?

Would you know of that book, btw?

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Wow, you're telling me!

I'm having trouble finding the upside, too, and usually I'm "Mr. Upside". It is truly difficult for me to comprehend that someone could hurt someone intentionally, and not as a mistake.

I mean, I used to hurt people all the time as a kid -- by accident. (still do sometimes) When I realized the mistake, I felt horrible, and sought a different type of behavior.

I figured this was everybody's norm, even those in jail. I just figured the ones in jail were just unusually resistant or slow learners.

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Yes, very much so.

The thing that is not expressed by saying that 4 out of every 100 people is sociopathic, is that 94 out of 100 people are living their lives in a reduced, and occasionally abbreviated, manner due to these few individuals who live only to hurt others.

It's really extremely sad when you think about it. My mind tends to seek positivity, so it's really tough for me to dwell on that much. It's even hard, on some level, to take thing it's real. It's unfortunate that it is.

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Thank you your kind words and explanations above. I appreciate that.

Yes, I'm glad LE is active, too. It's too damn slow for my tastes sometimes, considering how impulsive and fast acting sociopaths are, but you're right... at least they do grind exceedingly fine. They're thorough as all get out, which is good.
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