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Old May 27th, 2017, 04:26 PM   #11
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Old May 29th, 2017, 04:40 PM   #12
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Can you get IFM any more I get a blank page when o try to research it.
Its long-gone.

Try reading-up on the " IFM Replacement/Alternative" threads instead - there are quite a few with lots of good info.
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Old June 5th, 2017, 04:01 AM   #13
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BTW, INeedTruth, I am also a physician, and had similarly remarkable experiences with my (now ex) wife with a pheromone perfume from the 80s [Jovan Andron]. I think it may be too reductionist to say that "taste is in the tongue; smell in the olfactory epithelium covering the cribiform plate; phero detection is in the vomeronasal organ in the location of the Organ of Jacobsen studied in other (mostly domesticated) mammals.

Babies/small children, for example, often can somehow taste food placed on their cheek. As can I -- in my mid 50s. Try touching a dab of unscented soap to your cheek; can you taste it? That doesn't work for every adult, but I've met many adults for whom it does. Soap may not be the best stimulus, just the most familiar.

When I went to medical school, the very existence of the human VNO was denied, but it was demonstrated soon after (I don't know the current consensus). Similarly the roles and anatomical coverage of the vagus nerve are known to be much wider ranging now (it was believed to end at the diaphragm, until it was shown to be important for genital orgasms in some high spinal level (transection) para/quadriplegics.

I don't need to tell YOU, how specific the route/coverage of the (cranial) olfactory nerve is -- and that nerve/epithelium are the exclusive target of our criteria for anosmia It is entirely plausible to me that pheromone sensory information from any sensor outside the cribiform epithelium would be carried by another cranial nerve. Indeed, I wouldn't be surprised if pheromones could be detected in parts of the body away from the head -- I can't prove it from the literature, but the now-redefined distal extent of vagal fibers makes it at least possible, don't you think?
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Old June 6th, 2017, 01:55 AM   #14
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Sorry, so many of the replies were recent, and it's not a particularly long thread, so it never occurred to me that the Original Post might be 9 years old!
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BTW, INeedTruth, I am also a physician, and had similarly remarkable experiences with my (now ex) wife with a pheromone perfume from the 80s [Jovan Andron]. I think it may be too reductionist to say that "taste is in the tongue; smell in the olfactory epithelium covering the cribiform plate; phero detection is in the vomeronasal organ in the location of the Organ of Jacobsen studied in other (mostly domesticated) mammals.

Babies/small children, for example, often can somehow taste food placed on their cheek. As can I -- in my mid 50s. Try touching a dab of unscented soap to your cheek; can you taste it? That doesn't work for every adult, but I've met many adults for whom it does. Soap may not be the best stimulus, just the most familiar.

When I went to medical school, the very existence of the human VNO was denied, but it was demonstrated soon after (I don't know the current consensus). Similarly the roles and anatomical coverage of the vagus nerve are known to be much wider ranging now (it was believed to end at the diaphragm, until it was shown to be important for genital orgasms in some high spinal level (transection) para/quadriplegics.

I don't need to tell YOU, how specific the route/coverage of the (cranial) olfactory nerve is -- and that nerve/epithelium are the exclusive target of our criteria for anosmia It is entirely plausible to me that pheromone sensory information from any sensor outside the cribiform epithelium would be carried by another cranial nerve. Indeed, I wouldn't be surprised if pheromones could be detected in parts of the body away from the head -- I can't prove it from the literature, but the now-redefined distal extent of vagal fibers makes it at least possible, don't you think?
Jovan Andron has SO MANY anecdotes about its power.

I'm not sure if its success is related to the VNO as I believe it was the pentadecalactone in it that women love rather than the Alpha- Androstenol (5 ?-androst-16-en-3-ol).

I've heard similar remarks regarding testim gel (the testosterone hormone increaser) since it also utilizes pentadelactone

But who knows, I've heard skin receptors can respond to scent. It's quite possible that is the case here.

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