PheroTalk Pheromone Research Forum

PheroTalk

The World's Largest Pheromone Community

Get Real Pheromones directly from Androtics Pheromone Research at the SmartMones Pheromone Store

Questions about pheromones?
Get Fast, Friendly, No-Obligation Help from Real People at the Pheromone Hotline.
Call 1-800-671-6464 in the USA, or +01 425-786-2001 Internationally

Latest Threads ::.. Nightclub Report: TAC, TUTH, IO curious about pheromones! Newbie from London social lubrication. Hello! Hello Greetings from NYC Hello hello Hello! Greetings Hello! Hello from Toronto! Hello Hey there! Good morning from Nashville TN!!! Hello from Singapore Knightwing says whats up Hello Hello!! Hello Hello from FL Hello from So Cal Hello from California! Hello from Buffalo, NY Hello from UK! Hello from South Florida Hello Hello Hello from LA Hi from Singapore! Hello Hey Hello From Nueva Jersey Hello..!! Hey Hello from Russia Hi from Cincinnati! hi... From New York! Hello from Ithaca! Hello from USA!! Hello from California! ! ...Again. Hello from Chitown Helloo from Iowa Hello Hi Everyone! greetings from costa rica Hola Pherotalk Hey everyone Hello from India! Intro - Hello Hello from Blackpool England Hi From Nebraska Topic Of The Week 42, October, 2014 Hi Hey y'all Hi from Ohio Hello Hi from Singapore! Hi from Atlanta Hello from MD! Hello Hi from Austria! Hello from Pennsylvania Hello From London Hello Hello from New York City Hello everybody! Hello From London Topic Of The Week 41, October, 2014 Hello From Georgia First Hello Hello from Minneapolis! Hey Everyone Boston newbie Hi from Singapore! I need help! Hi I am new and was referred here Hey there Hello How to wear? Hello! Best Mones for being alone with a girl w/ high comfort already established Question about Spaceland little advice pls IO and SUmmer ammo Hello smells new here, hi im from okc new here, hi im from okc Hi all :). What Zero's out What? More effective on blondes? Hi! from Canada :) p75 Hi from California!!!! AMMO, IH It's Good to be King...Wow! Newbie with a question Hello from downunder Hello. I am new and excited to join! I've been reading but still no user experience Just Signed Up Topic Of The Week 40, September, 2014 A new crow appears: Hello


Go Back   PheroTalk Pheromone Research Forum > Discussion > Store Announcements & Feedback

Register Invite Your Friends FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read
Old June 25th, 2008, 09:27 PM   #1
Daedelus76 Male
Pheromone Master
  
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Florida, USA
Posts: 1,012
Thanks: 0
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0
Reputation: 1501
Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future
Default fragrance fixative

I read about a fragrance fixative called Glucam P-20. It's designed to be an odorless fragrance fixative. It might be interesting to Androtics to use to formulate pheromones with less scent or longer duration of effects:

The Perfumer's Apprentice - Glucam P-20

I'm going to order some to try out in my own perfumery and maybe even with pheromones. Suppossedly it will blend with alcohol/water and also with lower hydrocarbon oils.
Daedelus76 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 26th, 2008, 06:00 AM   #2
tisha23 Female
Goddess of Pheromones
  
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 17,880
Thanks: 1,698
Thanked 5,490 Times in 2,953 Posts
Nominated 200 Times in 142 Posts
Nominated TOTW/F/M Award(s): 37
Reputation: 16835
tisha23 has a reputation beyond repute tisha23 has a reputation beyond repute tisha23 has a reputation beyond repute tisha23 has a reputation beyond repute tisha23 has a reputation beyond repute tisha23 has a reputation beyond repute tisha23 has a reputation beyond repute tisha23 has a reputation beyond repute tisha23 has a reputation beyond repute tisha23 has a reputation beyond repute tisha23 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: fragrance fixative

Hmm interesting.

Right now they use DPG dipropylene glycol because it is non toxic stable and can be used with alcohol water or oils.

Its also inexpensive and easy to get.

I imagine, switching right now would mean reformulating alot of the mixes. Alot of work for April. I know that the scent ratio is important to maintain because it has more then one purpose in a mone product. Neroli acts as a fixative , It covers the scent of mones without being over bearing. Its a light molecule, Its highly diffusive, It leaves a effective trail or cloud of mone product. They have given the option for unscented on most products and even in some cases lightly scented but I am not sure they would be willing to compromise on the amount of neroli they use in the standard consumer products. Its has to many functions.

It is interesting though and worth looking into. I may pick up some for my next batch of aromatherapy and scent products.

Tisha
__________________
___________________________________________
tisha23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 26th, 2008, 09:17 PM   #3
Daedelus76 Male
Pheromone Master
  
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Florida, USA
Posts: 1,012
Thanks: 0
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0
Reputation: 1501
Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future
Default Re: fragrance fixative

My guess is in larger quantities Glucam P-20 would make a spray product act more "oil-like" unless the pheromone concentrations were altered. I've had decent results with pheromone oils like Scent of Eros which is only really scented with a light musk (very sticky molecule) and has very little odor, and not really any light fragrance molecules. Fluid physics isn't one of my specialties, though, so I'm no expert.

I used Perception, which is gel based but it has a similar effect, it basicly works like an oil but seems to diffuse a little faster. Honestly I'm not as big a fan of this gel as it doesn't really seem to work better than an oil. Maybe it's good for being able to instantly wash off androstenone easily, though. (BTW I started out on this stuff and it does produce reactions though it has too much androstenone for me).
Daedelus76 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 8th, 2008, 02:07 AM   #4
Daedelus76 Male
Pheromone Master
  
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Florida, USA
Posts: 1,012
Thanks: 0
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0
Reputation: 1501
Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future Daedelus76 has a brilliant future
Default Re: fragrance fixative

I got the P-20 today and I'll be testing it out with pheromones. I noted this in my journal and in the Theory section: http://www.pheromonetalk.com/pheromo...050-post6.html
Daedelus76 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
1 Active User(s) Viewing This Topic (0 members and 1 guests):  

Tags
fixative , fragrance


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What Fragrance do you like? BMasters87 MEN's Pheromone Advice, Tricks and Tips 2 October 29th, 2009 01:03 AM
Can cookie fragrance be made available as a fragrance option? Sillykitty Store Announcements & Feedback 2 July 6th, 2009 12:53 PM
Fragrance Help Dannii S Lounge 1 June 23rd, 2009 08:46 AM
Glucam P-20 fragrance fixative Daedelus76 Pheromone Theory 12 July 14th, 2008 10:24 PM

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:25 AM.


©2004-2014 PheromoneTalk.com
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v1.0.12 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
(c) 2002-2014 Androtics Pheromone Research, All Rights Reserved Internationally
Page generated in 0.12522 seconds with 17 queries