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Old April 24th, 2009, 03:32 PM   #1
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Default First time trying pheros.. smell not strong enough?

Im not sure if this is the right place to post this, but please forgive if it isnt

anyway, i recieved my order today of 2 togo bottles, ammo and honesty

ive read that im supposed to use one spray of each at a time to find the best mix, but i was a bit too excited and probably made a mistake by mixing them both

I applied ammo on my chest, probably 1 and a half sprays becuas of new bottle? not sure about that but 1 spray each of honesty on each forearm

then went to pick up this girl im keen on from the busstop, and went over to her place, and hung around with her and her roomate who is a girl i also know.

both of them didnt seem to act any differently than we normally do, until when i was doing the dishes the girl i was keen walked up next to me and smelt the scent, but she only asked "is that new colonge u wearing? smells not bad" i asked her "u didnt realise until now?" she told me she didnt and said i shold probably apply more, but i could smell it myself, and it was pretty strong should i be applying more sprays? im a bit confused...

(by the way i applied them about 30-40 minuted before i left the house)
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Hi Lockingjo:

Don't confuse the pheromones with the fragrance base they are in. The fragrance base for instant honesty is quite light IMO. I'm not as familiar with ammo -- it is a little stronger I think but still light enough that some men use an additional fragrance on top of it.

You will need to experiment with the number of sprays to get optimal results. It is different for everyone. But two sprays of instant honesty generally gets people talking noticeably more.
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You might want to be careful of how much you spray on yourself. Remember that AMMO has -none in it, so if you spray more to beef up the scent you run the risk of over -noneing ( OD ) and you may have poor results. You are a younger guy so your none production is already pretty high. If you are looking to add more scent, do a forum search for covers. Try searching AMMO , Cover. Alot of people have posted what they use for a cover. Adding Cologne does not hurt phero dispersion.

You might not see immediate results from people you normally hang out with. It may take some time. They are used to your normal phero signature, so it takes time for them to recognize your new one. Hope this helps. If not feel free to ask more ?'s.
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Old April 24th, 2009, 05:48 PM   #4
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What is ment by use one product at a time is .........

First just use AMMO and nothing else.

Use one spray and go out, see how you do.

You did that and got a mild hit so your close to your dosage.

Next day you go out use 3 full sprays of just the AMMO and see how you do. ( Lets suppose you do that and start to notice more hits)

Next day try 3 sprays and go out. ( Lets suppose you see absolutely no hits and they seem to be ignoring you )

Your Dosage is 2 sprays. Try it for a few days to be sure and to get a good feel for it and they kind of hits you'll get.

Then move onto IH and do the same thing just using it and find you dosage.

Once you find it then you can layer them or wear them in separate places on your body.

The scent is what carries the mones but its not the smell of it that triggers the reaction. The mone molecule carried in the scent enters the brain to do that. Heat is important so you want to apply to the parts of your body that product more heat excluding groin and pits. On men chest. neck, back of neck all are good. Forearms are alternative as well but I would start with the upper body. Head is a great place for products you like the scent of because we lose a lot of heat from our heads.

Now 30 to 40 minutes before you leave the house will work but I like to apply right before I go. Not really for effectiveness but time. Mones will only last 4 to 6 hours with the best hits being in the first 4 so its more a matter of getting your moneys worth.

Keep experimenting, You'll get it.

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Once you find it then you can layer them or wear them in separate places on your body.
hey tisha,
i've been wondering about layering myself. do you run the risk of additive exposure?

say one product has 5mcg/spray -none and another has 2.5mcg/spray -none...if u combine these two won't you be OD 'ing your sweet spot?
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say one product has 5mcg/spray -none and another has 2.5mcg/spray -none...if u combine these two won't you be OD'ing your sweet spot?
Yes more so for the men and the anone products but it can happen with the other products as well. More is not better with mones its just more.

If you use TUTH and AMMO at the same time they both have anone in them and you have to take that into consideration when layering.

Or take CTTM and IO or IH all three have both anol and bnol but in different ratios and balances.

When I go for layering I look to balance in what I am wearing. One sexual mix. One attraction/communication mix and one mood or behavioral type mix like Ishine . Its tougher with the putatives because these do not all clear and concise characteristics just yet but sometimes I will layer one of those as well.

I notice a lot of people run into trouble when they start to layer 4,5 or 6 mixes and they start to give to many signals. Its like noise to much noise and you tend to zone out from it or ignore it. To many signals with mones can make people do the same. To much to process so they ignore it.

When you create a combo you like, that works for you and is balanced its tempting to keep adding to it to make it better but that just throws the balance off. To improve it work with dosage, application points, diffusion and outside sources like congruency, body language and appearance and when it all comes together you will be a formidable opponent when it comes to attraction.

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Default Re: First time trying pheros.. smell not strong enough?

thanks xev and tisha, ill be testing them and report if any changes, thanks again!
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