Haven't posted in a while, figured I'd share a completely magical mix. This is a social/ (formerly) out of my league girl mix.
2 drops A314
20 mcg P74
25 mcg Androstadienone (oil based in tobacco vanille cologne)

This mix is so simple and works on so many great levels. It makes you highly desirable with A314 and Androstadienone. The respect of A314 and the lovability and incredible charisma of P74 make that combination a social juggernaut-people respect you and want to be around you at the same time, no intimidation factor but plenty of manliness. This also adds an element of social proofing to the girls when everyone wants to be your friend. A314 and Androstadienone create a crushing effect, and are incredibly effective at wooing the high-class ladies. You become so respectable, likeable, and desirable your horizons open up to all sorts of girls that might have avoided you in the past. Finally, the trusting effect of the P74 compounds on the Androstadienone and makes them so comfortable being around you. Just all around awesome- recommend it to anyone.

PS, I think adding some none would be great, but I have gotten in much better shape recently and have started to notice some negative side effects of Androstenone. I think its because i produce a lot more naturally these days.

Hello,

Setting: charity fundraiser, lots and lots of respectful people, lots of families due to fundraiser aimed to help families

Dosage: 2 drops A314 and 1 spray 75mcg Beta Androstenol

Self affects: I really like any of the high sterone products I always feel more grounded and focused when I apply these. Upon spraying the Beta Androstenol I notice it hits me very hard as I become a bit more aware of myself and my feelings, almost like a feeling of actually caring more.

One thing I have noticed the more testing I do and thinking about how the pheromone is affecting me the more I realize Im just a ball of emotion and thought that can be influenced easily with the right pheromones.

Affects on others: When ever i wear A314 I notice a huge change in my status from males, most all males treat my like im the alpha man with A314 so it was no suprize that I got the same treatment from the guys.

What I was looking for with this dose of Beta Androstenol was to close the out of the league type of status that A314 has sometimes (especially around ladies) I was using IHX2 but needed atleast three sprays to really see the affects I wanted on the opposite sex.

Normally when I wear A314 alone its great for everything but I notice that females seem to be shy or hesistant or want you to make the move.

Yet it seemed with 75mcg beta Androstenol added to the 2 drops A314 it made girls a bit less shy. I almost think the beta Androstenol was almost making them believe there was something very deep between me and them.

Normally females will look at me and move out of the way almost hesitatly... this time though they would look me in the eye and not break contact and not budge until I slowly worked around them. This occured a few times as I was making my way through the building I noticed a female would pick up on my scent, lock eyes with me, and then they would position themselves so I would have to pass next to them if i continued on the same path.

I will try this combo more but I think it takes the alpha male and puts a deep rich story behind it that makes the user look like grade A marriage material.

Its basically like being the Alpha male that has feelings and can communicate them.

Highly reccomended

Duration: I was at the charity for a bit over 3 hours and still going strong

Distance: 5 feet or so.... I never get a huge radius with A314 compared to spray where i might get 10+ ft radius or so it seems.

One of my goals is to be able to tweak A314 a bit through addition of pheromones such in this case it was still very professional but a bit warmer version that it normally is.

So, last night I was with some family for a Rosh Hashana dinner. A bit of a background on this. The hosts are very close family friends of ours and have been with us through a lot. There is a usual crowd that tends to come to these dinners and while a few people are a bit quiet but pleasant, the other end of the table tends to hold the more aggressive and bitchy crowd, also quite a few yentas who tend to think that their shit doesn't stink.

So three drops of A314 at the neck and two sprays of Instant Gentleman at the forearms.

Self effects: typical increase in confidence, pep in my step, etc.

First off, I have to pick up my mom. So this means her and I confined in a car for twenty minutes. I didn't notice too much of a change in her behavior other than she wasn't as chatty as usual. This could however, be attributed to the weather being cloudy and just affecting everyone's moods. We get to the house and so far normal behavior from the hosts. There was a couple with their daughters 7 and 4. At this point I'm thinking "oh shit, hope I don't scare the girls." Because I've known them since they were babies. Typically the 7 year old is fairly outgoing towards me but this time she was very reserved. Same for her sister. What I did notice was that her mother, whom she and I rarely talk (she has a very aloof attitude towards me), became very chatty when I started chiming in about the local public school's education program and how things have changed since we were kids. She became quite enthusiastic and we held a good conversation for quite a while.

Dinner was served, pretty much everyone was as is, the yentas did end up leaving me alone and I did get some occasional shit testing from the host. Mainly when he and this one guy who is a complete beta male (does whatever his wife says, weak hand shake, etc) were bitching about the local cable company and tried comparing them to satellite (I work for one of the companies). I chimed in my thoughts in a very "this is how it is and you're wrong because you don't know all your facts" type of a way which is a bit out of character for me. The host gave a curt "thank you for your opinion" and decided to focus on his soup. I'm tempted to say that was more of me just copping a bit of an attitude towards him. On the other end of the table, my end that is, this one couple's daughter whom has never had much to say to me, once again, she opened up and we ended up having a very good conversation throughout dinner. She tends to be very alpha oriented, a bit pushy and assertive. For the other newbies here that are still not sure about congruency, here's a good example of how this really comes into play:

This woman is used to having people back down. When she would push me on a topic, or assert her opinion as being final, I would keep my voice a bit deeper than normal, a few db higher for carrying power and reiterate my point in a "that's nice but I don't care if you think you're right" sort of way, immediately followed by turning my attention to someone else or to my food while she was trying to push back. A few more times of this and then she started softening up a bit, just a bit. Enough for us to have a good exchange. In case anyone is wondering, she's in her late 30's I think but whether or not there was any sexual tension, I haven't any idea as I'm not interested in her that way. I would still call last night's events a success since I've never gotten such responses before with that crowd of people.

Although its been a little while since I've reported I have been using my 'liquid gold' lately (just on a limited basis). I recently attended a 16th birthday party for a family friend's daughter and wore:

mx301- 1 spray to neck and 1 split between wrists
Shine- 2 sprays to the hair
2x Ammo- 1 to back of neck

Not really sure why i wore pheromones that night, "hooking up" with underage girls in NEVER on my 'list of things to do' (don't worry i didn't)

all I can say is.... BE CAREFUL!!!!

First off we all need to agree that high school girls are completely different than when "we" were in high school. I basically hung around and mingled with the people i knew and stayed away from the dance floor (not in the mood).

Several girls were continually following my trail all night, starting conversations with me, and hanging on my every word (with one constantly adjusting her top to expose more cleavage as we talked, enjoyable but scary).
The most 'interesting' part of the night was when the cougars in the room 'caught the scent'. There was one in particular that seemed intent on 'pouncing' at her first opportunity. It was after a few minutes of talking to her that I noticed the "cleavage" girl giving us the 'stink eye'. A little later they were engaged in a heated 'discussion' that seemed to escalate when I walked by in conversation with another rather attractive mom. I found out why rather quickly.

They were mother and daughter.....

and I found out later that the mother has a bad habit of 'borrowing' guys that the daughter is into (Jerry Springer episode anyone?)

I was not in the mood for any drama so I made sure to slip away and leave the party without either noticing.

If I am looking for drama I'll put on a movie.

My good friend is bringing a bunch of her friends down from Aussie to visit. Problem is they're all gay. Will all the regular male phero mixes work on them?
Thanks in advance for the input guys. :D

Am looking for reports on P74 and P96... Can someone point me in the right direction as I try and weed through this forum.....THANKS

Got a question cause I was out the other night and all of a sudden I look over my shoulder as two guys walk by..... we made eye contact and the first thing that came to my mind was what pheros were these guys wearing??? Has anyone ran into other phero users that they personally didn't know while out?? I mean one of the 2 could have had a high natural phero signature, but it was like I sorta knew they were wearing something.....Is that even possible or am I crazy!?!?!?!

Hi I need some advice xD my shippment of pheros is two bottles of IS, Instant Honesty and Turn Up The Heat

So far the results have been
IS: good results, many ioi
Instant Honesty: I can't say this has really work for me and I have try different spots
Turn Up The Heat: I still haven't use this
Instant Honesty: only used once

I read on the guide "what to wear" on this forum that you can use IS and Turn Up The Heat for attraction my questions are
Does it have to be half spray of Turn Up The Heat?
In the same spot as instant shine or it doesn't matter?
Men reactions?
Didn't have chance to buy ammo at that time
Can I make a phero sig similar to ammo with the pheros I have?

Hi, After exercise if i wash my wrist and other areas where i will spray pheromones on would that not make non none pheromones convert to none.And would you recommend me spraying ammo after exercise i am 17 years old.

I got ammo,is ,Turn Up The Heat , Instant Openness ,Instant Honesty ,Instant Gentleman.

Hey guys,

I don't really post here but I've been experimenting with pheros off and on for about a year now. The product that has given me the most blatant hits and has really intrigued me is MX297. I'd like to share my theory about it.

First off, I would like to say that this product increases status in an unbelievable fashion. I have tested 4 togo bottles and I know for a fact it can bring you from the guy in back of the party to the person everyone loves to be around within seconds of application. It's fun as hell (AT FIRST). Wearing 3 sprays, I get IOI's from everybody at every party I attend, and many DIHL looks from women [college parties, ages ~19-23]. However, none of these women want to hook up. They all want to impress me, claim me as their own, and dance. Then, they all want to hook me up with their best friend. I have also noticed that my friends get laid more often when I wear MX297.

My theory is that MX297 transforms you into a totally fun Alpha female. I'm not joking.

Guys don't ever get angry with you because you have high status and they never seem to get aggressive. I have even had straight guys buy me drinks at the bar while wearing MX297.

Women want to impress you and hook you up with their best friends. They love dancing with you. They will tell you that you can have any girl you want (except them I guess). These are things I have absolutely seen women doing to their alpha counter parts. They also feed off my status and take it as a pre-approval for my friends. In fact, the women that do this the most seem to be the total babes with somewhat beta personalities who would definitely try to hang with (and please) a high status chick friend.

The status this product delivers is in no way intimidating - it's completely social. I guess in the end it gets you the closest you can get to the hottest babes without going the distance. That's the problem. If you have any friends with any decent amount of -none and aren't total nerds they will be getting laid for being preselected for having such a cool friend and you will be going home lonely.

I believe mixing MX297 with more "masculine" feeling products provides a good balance for this. In my opinion, it makes you seem like the man with a totally awesome girlfriend. Example:

A314+MX297 = The man with his shit together. He has it all. He even just got done snuggling with his cool ass girlfriend.


Let me know if you think this theory is plausible. Thanks all, take care. Keep up the good testing!

Hey people.

I got in my mx301 today. I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see it and hear it for myself. This stuff is magic.

Also, just to reiterate, I'm married and no subjects were uhhhh ummm touched in this test.

Sooooo, I wore the usual 50 different pheromones.

• couple drops of A314
• couple sprays of instant openness
• single spray of instant shine
• couple squirts of ammo 2x
• Silver Shadow...couple spritzes

I went about my day, interacting with my pc repair clients and nothing out of the ordinary, other than every answer was a yes. :)

Fast forward to 515 pm, headed in to my acupuncture doctor who has several cute assistants. Since stocking up on stuff, I've been subjecting these poor people to different things. Today was different though.

About 15 minutes before I pulled in to the place, I got out my little bottle of mx301 and pumped a full spray on one wrist and rubbed it with the other one. I also sprayed one partial spray on my upper chest.

I went in...a little late, and the cute assistant who is the subject at hand, teased me about being late but said "no problem at all!"

I should have had to wait, but was shown to a room where the treatment takes place. I had to undress :rolleyes: and put a paper gown on. (backside bare) I waited for a bit, and there was that assistant again. She came in and closed the door, and we chatted for a fw minutes. She was really doing all the talking. I was being an attentative listener, because after all, that's what women want, right?

It went on like this for what seemed like an eternity, until she walked over and asked me with her serious look...do you think I'm nice? Wahhhh?

I said of course, but especially today. She asked if I thought she she was nice all the time. I quickly responded yes. (no hesitation there)

OMG. She instantly turned into a giddy young girl. Mind you, she's probably about 24. She walked closer....actually invaded my space and placed a hand on my chest (keep in mind thay I have a paper robe/gown thing on) and I was really just trying to figure out how to handle this. She said that I smelled really yummy and what cologne was I wearing. Silver Shadow.

Right at that moment, the good doctor came waltzing in, thankfully. I don't think I have ever jumped so high in my life. She collected herself and backed up as he was opening the door, and everything else went on cue.

She was already gone after my session was over.

That is what happened to me today. My next session is on Friday. ;)

Side note: I thought that other pheromones may have been partly responsible, but this was 7 hours or so later, and the mx301 was freshly applied and on top of everything else. My take is that mx301 works....and better than ammo...at least for me. I'd like to see a 30mL bottle of this stuff please.

Just want to know whose from T dot and how you plan on dealing with the upcoming cold weather?

Hello. This is my first post so please be gentle. I'll make my story short.

I have an ex-girlfriend who is still very much in my life. We have been broken up for a year now. We at least happen to see each other once a week. We still share many friends. During the last year we have continued to have sex. Four times we have met up and did the nasty. Then months go by and then we go at it again. I'm not looking to win her back but I would like to increase my chances of more meaningless sex with her. I don't even have to buy her dinner! :p So what is the best product I can use to increase my chance for more SEXY TIME!!!! ;)

I just got
Instant Openness
Instant Honesty
Instant Gentleman (gift, thanks Androtics!)
2x strength IS

I'm going out to dinner to a place wear the women wear barley any clothing and I figured this would be the best place to test it. ;)

Which ones do you think I should use guys? :D

edit: (all togo bottles btw)

Hi all. Long time since I haven't posted. I was wondering if you could answer my poll. I, and I'm sure others would be interested in finding out what people's reactions have been who have tried Ammo, Mx297 and or Mx301 on separate occasions. The reason I include Mx301 is that I read a lot of people also comparing it to Ammo. Enough people I think, to include 301 in this poll.

There's been quite a surge in forum activity lately regarding Mx297 so I'm hoping there will be a large response for the poll.

Cheers guys.

Edit: Apologies, I should have put another option in the poll regarding dissatisfaction with all products mentioned.

I have a question about Turn Up The Heat around kids. I know its said to not wear it around children but I have a 1 and 3 year old in the house with us and if I decide to try out the Turn Up The Heat today around my wife is it going to hurt or affect the kids in a bad way??

The chemical world has changed (I'll update you more on that shortly) and so has the economy and other costs of doing business. We may need to fast forward a few projects faster than we may have liked, I'm order to survive at all since the actual supply chain we use is in danger of collapse.

Any objections to MX297 or a close variation becoming Ammo 2.0?

(remember ammo 2.0 will be a google and affiliate advertised version of Ammo, 1.x will still remain here)

I know we have some better stuff here for niche users, how does it compare to other products on the market that are currently advertised in Google? (not ours)

Do you feel that's it's a class leading mix that would truly and honestly serve people more than most products (again, compared to what's heavily advertised not our own super ninja stuff)?

Does everyone pretty much agree that it's work safe and work compatible? Any negatives at work?

Family and friend safe and supportive? Any negatives here?

Would most people agree with that it provides a "Friends" (tv show) character like effect? The guy who most people like being around, who also happens to be sexy and fun enough to have his pick of girls?

That's pretty much what were shootin' for and MX297 seems to fulfill these criteria (feedback wise), more than most others I've seen. (oh, and its low androstenone, which is important)

Other suggestions welcome, of course, be it variations of MX297 or entirely different mixes that fulfill these criteria. (friendly, sexy, fun, safe, market leading)

is Instant Jerk useful for taking value away from amogs and the such? making you the most valuable person? like say you use Instant Jerk, the alpha gets mad and decides to say something to you like, nice shoes, fag. i'll reply by, wow you're cool. which will take value from him while giving value to you. does this method work? because you're subconciously giving him a jerks pheromone signal..?

Hi dear forum readers.

Simple question : was there any tests of putting pheromones of high concentration into people gathering areas (clubs,bars) at specific moments ?

Imaging a club at their best hours and a high concentration of IS was "distributed" through a fan or any kind of diffusers
or as mood enhancer with each song the diffuser changes the mix :D

Or am i just hallucinating ?:p

I have tested MX297 for some time and here are my oservations, tested most times in work environment:

- friendly respect in a non threatening way, not too masculine

- co-workers have said "aye aye boss" or "you are right as always"

- some beta-nolish talk, co-workers told more private stuff at lunch

- got a few smell compliments "god damn you smell so good"

- my sister insisted of knowing that smell - she thought i wore the perfume "1 million dollar" (Paco Rabanne)

- sometimes girls taking me by the arm and walking around (AT WORK), seems to have some possesive qualities but its more difficult to escalate as for example with MX292 or MX301

-more noticeable/instant reactions than from A314

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So i like it as a work mix, but as it is a bit too friendly in my opinion i started testing it with A314.
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What impressed me most: combining both keeps all the good qualities of 297 but it is more flirty and gives more respect:

- still friendly respect but stronger, feels more masculine

- my boss and his boss both both do some buddy talk with me (which they didn't with any A314 combo before and not with MX297 alone either)

- still beta-nolish talk, but a bit less intimate

- i had no girls take me by the arm, they are less touchy BUT still a bit touchy AND i see more sexual IOIs (using their lipstick more and more hairflipping) and had some girls insist on going out with them after work... (it seems they are a bit less carefree than with MX297 alone, but more interested)

I have the impression that MX297 misses something thats in A314 and using 1 MX297 + 2 A314 not only saves me some MX297 but works as good as using 3x297, with added benefits...

I would like to hear from others who also combined those two and what you think A314 adds to MX297.

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btw. somehow MX297 reminds me of MX203 in its space reducing effect, because there was a lot of closeness and following around, but it was more of a brother and sister thing as opposed to sexual, and it also had some status raising effect so i am pretty confident that there is P93 or a close related molecule in MX297...

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all day except for 1 class i had 2 squirts of Instant Openness to the neckish shoulder and 1 squirt of IS to the wrists. I thought i was being ghosted, then i guess it softened up or i was being congruent( i thought i was being ghosted on the bus) but i acted really cocky funny during classes today although no one i knew were in my classes cause i was in some higher level classes then most. so i had no one to sit with at lunch and i think i got a hit before lunch smiled at me all the time, idk if she was being nice or an IOI. so i was thinking now that my Instant Gentleman and Turn Up The Heat..i was thinking of a better mix (also quick question..the smaller you are weight wise means that 2 sprays on you is overwhelming compared to same age but maybe 50 pounds heavier might need a heavier dose?) so my thoughts were 1 spray Instant Gentleman to the jawish area, 2 sprays Instant Openness on neckish shoulder, 1 spray IS to wrists. do i need to act any different to be congruent or will it make me confident myself to do it naturally?
-also, for the PUA's out there, how should i talk to that girl kinda befriend her and join her little lunch group? like conversation starters etc. acting interesting. etc and ideas.

ugh, i don't like being the "jerk"... i got it as a free gift with my instant gentleman and Turn Up The Heat..i was hoping for ammo or something...anyone want to trade?
I'll trade for Instant Honesty, Ammo, IS. all i can think of right now, its unused..so i'd trade unused for unused. also, does anyone know the scent of the green bubble wrap? it smells delicious!

Hello,

Dosage: 1 spray to each side of neck (so two total sprays and thats it)

Self effects: I wasnt in the most upbeat or happiest mood but I noticed after spraying the 297 my confidence and overall feeling of well being increased and a smile creeped onto my face

Location: What is considered to be a trendy/hip part of town full of bars and on this night a street art walk was just ending so the bars were pretty busy.

I walked into the bar and found a 10 person line to get a drink so me and a buddy hop in line and begin the fun wait while MX297 swirls around me and influences the women.

When we first got into line there was two girls with im assuming there boyfriends... I couldnt tell if any of them were together because with in 2 min of being in line one of the other girls starts showing her panties to her girlfriend (yes down the front) right in front of me.... serious... they bascially formed a triangle with me and started opening the front of there jeans...

5 minutes have passed since getting in line and 4 girls come in behind us. I turn and smile at one of them... within a minute the two closest girls behind me keep bumping there hips into my butt for the next 10 minutes.
I make small talk and flirt a bit.

Distance: Not to sure of the affective distance it seemed like amazing hits within a 5ft but I was getting lots of DIHL from 10+ feet.

Conclusion: 2 sprays of MX297 works amazing as a stand alone... I would buy a 30ml bottle... I could have most likely allowed this MX to bring a girl home with me.

PS: Any advice on making my reports better would be appreciated... cause I just got some Putatives and will start reporting on those too.

Background
I had alot of problems with this mix. I tested at 1, 2, and 3 sprays thinking that 3 sprays should be enough. Almost At the end of the bottle I find that 4 sprays is my minimum amount of sprays.

Product name,scent and strength
MX301-Neroli Scent

Application dosage and locations
4 Sprays - 2 to my neck, 2 split between forearms

Enviroment tested in.
Local bar w/dance floor

Self effects.
I always feel tired when I use mones (cranky, tired feeling) . I feel less tired every time I use them. This time I didn't feel tired at all. I believe that my body is used to the pheromones.

Effects to others
I arrived at the bar. Its busy today. The barmaid greets me. The barmaid at the bar greets everyone. What I found unusual was how she greeted me. She asks "So what brings you here?". I have been to many a bar but have never heard this from the barmaid. She serves me a drink and then goes to her pocketbook. She gets her lip balm, lip gloss, body spray and 2 mints (big IoI's!). She goes to the ladies room to freshen up.

I go to the dance floor. I try to start a conversation with 2 women. I only get 1 word answers to my questions. Back to the bar.

I sit next to a woman at the bar. After 5 mins I try to open with her. Again I get 1 word answers.

Age Range
Barmaid was @26 years old
1st woman was @33
2nd woman was @35
3rd woman was @40

Duration of effects.
I was there for 2hrs.

Effects from mixing with other products.
N/A (solo)

Time exposure.
I was there for 2hrs.

Conclusion
I got a good solid hit from the barmaid. For me this product causes alot of DIHL looks and 1 or 2 word answers to questions. Both are blatant hits but I can't work with women who will not talk to me...lol. Great product though. I will order another bottle. I would like to try this with some Come Talk To Me Mix 2 and Instant Honesty

Okay so many people ask, so here is a complete list of IOI's as defined by Mystery in his book "How to get beautiful women in bed." The Mystery Method. Hope this helps you all. It helps me to review them every now and then.

*She reinitiates conversations when you stop talking
*She giggles
*She touches you
*She tries to get rapport and build comfort with you
*She looks back and glances at you repeatedly ever minute or so
*She tosses her hair (to see if you will look)
*If eye contact happens from a distance, she holds it for a second
*She smiles at you
*She stands nearby (proximity)
*She interrupts your conversation from nearby or laughs at something you said
*While walking by, she turns her body toward you or brushes against you
*She says something to her friend and they both giggle
*She asks you for a light or the time or in any way initiates a conversation
*While you're talking to her group, she is particularly talkative (to get your attention)
*She asks you for your name
*She asks you your age
*She compliments you
*She is playful and tries to challenge you
*She's disagreeing but laughing
*She's punching your arm but laughing
*She uses nicknames for you
*She plays with her hair while talking to you
*When she is sitting next to you her leg touches yours
*She repeatedly touches you in any way
*She asks if you have a girlfriend
*She mentions your girlfriend without knowing if you actually have one
*When she has to go to the bathroom, she comes back
*She holds eye contact for longer periods of time when she speaks with you
*She avoids mentioning her boyfriend
*If it comes up that you like something, she mentions that she likes it, too, or needs someone to show her how to do it
*When she says or does something, she looks at you to see your reaction
*She looks at you from the side, to hide the fact that she's looking
*She introduces you to friends
*She buys you a drink
*She calls you a player or a heartbreaker
*On her way out, she re-approaches you to tell you that she is leaving
*On your way out, she asks you where you are going
*She returns your calls
*She invents reasons to be near you, interact with you, or have isolation with you

Passive IOIs

*Her friends go (to the bathroom or bar or dancing) but she stays
*She moves to see you and hangs with you for extended periods
*If you move, she follows you or waits for you
*She doesn't flinch or pull back if you happen to get too close
*She doesn't resist when you escalate physically (or she gives token resistance to avoid feeling like a slut)


The most important IOIs to look for are:

*She re-initiates conversation when you stop talking
*She giggles
*She touches you
*She tries to get rapport and build comfort with you

My additions

• She mirrors your body language
• She is shy, doesn't speak, can't make/maintain eye contact
• She gets the DIHL look
• She preens (adjusts clothes, hair, checks herself in mirror)

It has been suggested here and on the AD site that some pheromones it is best to wait some time after application before driving. I don't think this can be stressed enough. Especially if you're testing a new product or molecule that you've never used before. Self test at home to see how the product will affect you, and then take it out on the road so to speak.

I ride a motorcycle as my main form of transportation, and under some testing like 30mcgs of P83 with a refresh approx 4 hours later left me feeling as though I were under the influence for almost 20 minutes.
Not only could it be extremely unsafe, but quite possibly lead you into legal trouble.

Most days, I do not apply my pheromones until I am at work because I'm riding the bike and its hot as hell here.
Even when I do apply before I leave the house, I do it in a layered fashion where I'm at a min., 1/2 an hour before I'm ready to leave the house.
While certain mixes like my baseline work mix ammo, A314 and Instant Honesty don't really loop me out, its when I add something new I have not quite grown accustomed to.

Anyway, I don't know if this has been stressed to some of the newbies here, and maybe even needs to be said as a reminder to you old timers.

Have a great day, I'm off to do a solo p83 at 40mcgs test at work. :)

I have TAA

But looking to purchase more for testing.

I do have somewhat of a limited budget, I gotta pick up some expensive items for a mix I'm working on and I wanted to poke my head into the T series molecules.

Does anyone have any experiences on the others. I've done searches but I'd like some more feedback for those who have an extra minute to lend.

Thanks a bunch

Hey guys! I am starting to Wait tables for the first time this week, and on top of college... As of now I am rocking AMMO, Turn Up The Heat and Instant Honesty (Instant Jerk is not what I was hoping for, actually makes people close to you upset, but new people such as class mates intrigued, but still not what I need for my life atm). Should I stick with the AMMO and Instant Honesty for work? Or switch it up with..what? I kinda want something that is good for both school and work. Turn Up The Heat is for obvious relationship or on the prowl kinda stuff (should I still wear it to school and work if I am trying to pick up some ladies?) any advice?

Thanks guys :D

Okay, guys. At different places- ie starbucks, book stores - after initiating and talking with girls for sometime (sometimes guys too, heh), I would take out a "survey" paper and tell them that I am actually doing some class project and that I would like to ask them some questions. From this, I would asses what kind of vibe/impression they got of me.

Anyways, what do you all think of this?

Of course, I take note of what MX or instant line I was wearing at that time. Additionally, I do my best to objectively assess how I interacted with them.

These are the questions I ask:
1) What was your initial impression of me? What type of vibe you had of me when you first saw me?
2) How about after meeting and talking to me?
3) In what aspect did you enjoy or not enjoy your interaction?
4) Yes or no: felt attraction? comfort? connection?
5) Anything else?

Good way to assess how pheromones impact one's interaction? Also, try with pheromones and without pheromones and see what happens?

P.S. I go talk to random girls that I wouldn't pick up, lol. Who knows though... maybe you can use something like this to pick up girls, heh.
Anyway, all I am trying to do is gauge what type of vibe each product is making them feel.

Hi all,

So I joined this forum to get a boost in life and with the ladies. Recently, I've been reading David D and Neil Strauss but there techniques seem to take a while to learn. I also noticed PUA from users on this site, and I ordered Gambler's book "Art of Natural Seduction" so I just wanted to ask the experienced users the simple questions of what they think the best book out there is that can help anyone be more successful with women.

Other than that I have some basics concepts down that I used to not do that I think will help such as

1) Avoiding compliments and buying gifts
2) Showing interest very soon and early
3) Being to nice

If anyone else can summarize what worked for them too, it would be much appreciated

-Chris

I hear it makes girls go all giggly and start crushing on you. On the other hand, TAH is very feminine. Conflicting here, eh?

So, as I said before, I'm working at the worlds largest indoor waterpark. Needless to say, I have some beautiful (absolutely gorgeous) co-workers, and I consistently deal with beautiful patrons in bikinis no less. I would love to know, or rather, get some advice on what to order next.

I am a Hispanic/French person. So far I have only used A314 and Turn Up The Heat. Any suggestions from users on what to order and use?

P.S. What I have left is Turn Up The Heat and A314 left. I have nothing left to use. One of my managers is a homosexual, and I plan on making a supervisor. Needless to say I do not want to pass off that I am gay, but I'd rather be a supervisor.

I bought 2x strength IS and then normal strength Instant Openness and Instant Honesty.

How noticeable are hits from social pheros?
Can you tell me what to expect and maybe share some of your stories?

I know it wont be like an axe commercial but If somebody could maybe write out a day without these pheros compared to what a day with the pheros would be like that would be great!

Is there a way to limit self effects? I was thinking of something like the products sold as "nose filters" except completely blocking off the nasal passages instead of just filtering the air from pollen/dirt.

Basically I have a fantasy football draft coming up and I'd like to OD on something(I was thinking either using some instant shine or instant jerk or spaceland or ammo or some mix of the above) to play with the minds of everybody else but I don't want to have any negative effects on me.

Is there anything that you can think of? I obviously don't want it to be noticeable that I'm wearing some sort of nose clip with the filter. I mean, I doubt they would notice it but I want to keep things as low key as possible. Any ideas?

But I can give you crazy hits. I am a full blown believer. Ill start with instant shine. I just moved into college and so everyone is getting to meet everyone and its all that. I did a couple days with no pheromones to see how thigs were going. The first day I wore IS, every class I walked into instantly went from awkward silence, to regaling my presence. people were smiling and saying hi, people wouldn't really open up to me, but it did make me the center of attention. Now the self effects are like wow. People say that when you smell it you start smiling, the way I felt is not a full blown smile, but a constant content grin for roughly 4 hrs. Also I have gotten a bunch of compliments on the smell, I know its not supposed to be the main selling point, but people like it! Ive hung out with a few girls and the closer they get the more they seem to like being close to me, it seems like a subconscious pull towards the origin of the pheromone. In the presence of alcohol its just ridiculous. im up to 3 sprays now and I cannot believe how well it works.

I got a FREE togo of instant honesty because Androtics is the BEST. So Ive been testing it and doing combos with the IS. I would like to say that it does make people more likely to open up to you, but it comes into its own when you come up to people. It just increases the chances of your intro being a success, people just decide to talk to you. One time I sprayed it maybe 20 mins before I snuggled with a girl during a movie. I knew her life story by the end of the movie. Thats not to say that it draws people to talk about deep things, it just opens them up, you can just steer them where you want if you know what you are looking for. What is more impressive is I went into one girls room who I did not talk to very much before. Certainly not on a personal level. She starts talking about how shes frustrated. And then all the things that piss her off, then her step mom. And then she ends it with an open tirade about how divorce destroys people and she would stay in an abusive relationship to avoid a deivorce. I had said NOTHING the entire time, she just got into it, and we didn't even know each other like that.

Im ordering ammo right now based on this success, once i get into my schedule I might keep a college mans journal. For now, I LOVE IS and Instant Honesty.

Honestly I feel like Instant Honesty has more of an effect, because you can be happy and sad with it, IS sort of glazes things, which is good sometimes, but not as good in others. The combination has no faults though!! I can't wait for my ammo!

And again, thanks to Androtics for the speedy shipping and the free Instant Honesty, I know the goal is testing and science, so I am putting that Instant Honesty you guys gave me to the test. More results SOOON

Oddly I got invited to play poker (texas hold em). At least one of these guys thinks I may be a chump when it comes to cards. I'm not really shooting for any goal. Any suggestions to +1 the situation in my favor a little?

I'm really only doing this to play with pheromones mainly. Thanks for all suggestions :)

I'm 15 years old
I don't have that much of confidince but, I got some confidence...
I'm looking for respect

whats up ladies and gents, its Ase again! i got some more pheromones today and i was wondering maybe the folks at the forum can help me with this. I start my semester at college on the 13th of this month. walking through the hallways at my college is like walking on miami beach on a 100 degree day with a cuban guy selling beer and a parrot named juan on his shoulder. thats how serious it is at my school lol yea exagerated a bit from reading this. if i can walk around with a camera to show you i would lol, anyway, so far i have Turn Up The Heat, AMMO, Instant Openness x2, and Instant Honesty. So any suggestions on what should i use? thanks again folks

-Ase:cool:

Honestly, I'm the biggest idiot in the world. I'm always such a positive person. Once I realized how easy it is to control your emotions, I've been such a happy person. Lately, other than things ending with this girl a couple of months ago, and a good friend of mine passing away this past Saturday, I don't have much to be sad about.

But today on the bus, one stop before mine, the most beautiful girl in the world walked on. I swear, this girl was stunning. And not just a 'sexy' thing. This girl, yes, had sex appeal, but I got the vibe from her that she was a good girl to just get to know. Like it transcended just sex. I don't believe in love at first sight, but this may have been my first experience with it. I was just on the bus with a bunch of old people and this one random black teenager who also noticed her. She was about to sit in the front, but noticed me and started walking to the back of the bus. Eye contact with occasional looks downward, and stroking of hair, I knew it was either my pheromones or my shirt (which makes my arms look amazing).

She finally comes and sits right beside me when there are plenty of other empty seats available. I had no idea what to do, if I initiated convo, I'd have missed my stop (which I can't do). If I had my phone number on a piece of paper ready, I'd have put it in her lap as I was getting off, but obviously I didn't have it handy.

So I don't know, it's actually making me a bit depressed because I lost the opportunity and I probably won't ever see her again now. I think I'm obsessed as crazy as that sounds. I'm wiling to look 1 by 1 on facebook through the thousands of women in my area just to find her. I may wait at that bus stop each day just to see her again. I swear she was so freaking amazing and I missed my chance.

I swear I'll find this one again.

I tried P75 a few times in office as standalone.

While some users here compare the P75 results to the A314 confidence boost, i dont quiet agree with it.

it certainly gives you a confidence boost, more a cockiness and a deep growl in the voice but I feel the results to be more rougher and at a gross level (dunno how to word it) than the smooth gentlemanly demeanor which 314 provides.

some of the things I notice with P75

my voice turns deeper for abt 3-4 hrs on a single 2.5 mcgs spray.
gives a cocky confidence. (made me say a few brash things which made me later ask myself, what made me say that) thankfully i got away with it.
its certainly not a replacement for A314 feels more like a bit of immature cockiness than the suave confidence of 314. nevertheless confidence boost is there

no wet panties effect noticed even when combined with my regular bomb of AMMO2x +MX297+IH4x +A314
Tried at 0.5mcgs with the above combo and standalone was at 2.5mcgs

As my title reads I applied 1 drop A314,1 spray IS2x,1 spray IO2x,1 spray Instant Honesty, 2 seperate sprays of Turn Up The Heat.......

THE RESULTS were warm,wet, and naughty

Did this happen due to mix?!?!!? Not sure.......Let me elaborate..... First off I do some online dating on the sexual end of the spectrum. So usually with or without pheromones I am pretty much gonna get laid If I want. That brings me to the kicker, most women who agree to meet you after chatting online have already made their mind up that they like you no matter what they are saying. So if you are(profile pic) who you say you are(profile pic) then unless high on crack or smelling like you shit yourself you are in and in the case of what type of online dating you are doing that is what you are BOTH there for. This aspect saves me a lot of time and money.(Usually 1/2 hr. tops and 20$ for drinks/entertainment)......

Now to the pheromone portion......Was gonna just try Turn Up The Heat since I have never used it to see it's solo results....regardless I didn't and everything went pretty normal for the "dates" I have had off the site. Exception 1 was the fact that I have posted that people tend to use strange word choices, more direct,definitive, and appeasing when I wear A314 and this was different than the other "dates" I have had without the pheromones, in that regard, but normal for interactions with pheromones. The 2nd Exception was that I really didn't say much of anything just nodded approvingly/disapprovingly, smiled, and laughed and that seemed to be ok with her. After the fact I asked her when did she know she wanted "it" and she said "when I saw you walk in the room all charismatic and manly" sorta half jokingly(disclaimer: we had communicated through the site for a week or 2) and the Final Exception was that she really was trying to fight her arousal and usually under these circumstances women tend to act more sexually aggressive since that is really what they are looking for from this particular site(which with the over abundance of dudes is kinda hard to get noticed without effort)....

I added the 2nd shot of Turn Up The Heat before I hopped in her car to go to her house for good measure. I really noticed she was having a hard time thinking straight and when I looked into her eyes she melted!!
(in a peculiar way).... and a side note when I took off her panties they were dripping wet and smelt like they had been wet for awhile so I asked her how long her panties were wet and she said "since you faked like you were gonna kiss me and didn't the first time":cool:(did it like 3 times before I actually kissed her all 3 leaning in and pausing just barely making contact and then asking her some random question):cool: So basically her panties had been dripping wet for well over an hour and thank you Turn Up The Heat for that sexual tension amplification. Another side note is that the pheromones worked like the pheromones work, but I/YOU have to still seal the deal:D

HERES A QUESTION....... Can Turn Up The Heat be used in social situations???I know it's not recommended but the sexual tension I think it would create in inappropriate situations might be beneficial to a guy like me.....Any thoughts!?!?!?!

Forum friends, I received a PM from a member who would like to remain anonymous, but it's a serious question.

I don't sweat that much unless I'm at the gym or it's super humid and in that case I use my own mix of pheromones with DPG. I've asked countless times about why great oil mixes like Raw Power and Dirty have gone away and TAA oil too and none others have been produced since, but I'm not sure why. I think jasmin has something about oil mixes in the store section, but until it actually happens advice for our fellow member would be appreciated.

What I do is to mix some DPG in a to go with the product, or simply make my own. Of course I wouldn't recommend mixing anything until you first get an idea how things work. By mixing mine with DPG I am slowing down the diffusion too. So where as I used to get a hit within 3 minutes hopefully, now it would take 10-15 sometimes. Also by mixing with DPG I am also essentially lowering the dosage. It's tricky and I'd really like to see oil products return, but it doesn't look as if they are going to anytime soon if ever.

I don't really sweat a lot when I go out so putting it on my neck, wrists and hair is an OK solution for me. Anyone else have any ideas?

so i was just thinking, we're all using pheromones to help attract women, or make ourselves more attractive, or feel better about ourselves. couldn't pheromones be used the other way as well? i'm not saying i want a pheromone to make myself feel worse about myself (like the opposite of IS), but are there pheromones that turn people away, or make them react differently or strangely to you? would this ever be useful? i'm just curious; i've had success in the short time that i've been using pheromones, so i don't want to change anything.

I know this has been posted alot of times but what would you recommend for me (17 years old) and what would you recommend for my brother (15 years old)?

Our stash:
- Ammo FF22
- MX 297
- MX 301
- Instant Honesty to go
- Instant Openness
- Instant Jerk to go
- Instant Gentleman
- IS

I don't care about that much about getting respect from guys (although it would be nice) but giving an "attractive vibe" to girls is really necessary especially in front of my SUPPOSEDLY "girlfriend".

Thank you in advance and sorry for the repetitive question :).

I was thinking about Androstadienone and how it converts on your skin. According to what I've read on the board it goes from:

Androstadienone > Androstenol (If you sweat enough) > Androstenone > Body odor.

I also understand that Androstenone builds up.

So...The more you use of this the smellier you will get?

Not being funny, just trying to understand what is going on when you shower with Dial Magnetic everyday.

Hey guys im about to purchase some phermonones and im thinking of getting both ammo and instant shine and i just dont really want to make a mistake in my purchase! so how do u guys rate these to in combination for attraction?

Thanks Guys :)

What should I use on my first day after a few years off (university) ?

Going to try 3 sprays of IS and Instant Openness.

Wondering if I should put on some MX297 as well OR to go with the CTTM?

In case you're wondering, I also have Turn Up The Heat 2x and some Instant Honesty 2x, but these don't seem appropriate.

i heard that the more testosterone you have.. makes better pheromones that naturally attract women since the less you jack off you'll have a higher sperm count which indicates to your body that you need more sperm to get sexed.
so the less you jack off.. the more testosterone you have.

but on the other side the more you jack off.. your body will keep making more and more sperm thus into testosterone.

i googled it.

I really don't know the legitamacy of the info but here it is

Hey guys quick question. What would be the best stand alone and best mix to use when going out clubbing and dancing(dirty dancing). I was think mx301 or mx297 but I always get em confused which one is mister right and which one is mr. Right now??qå

so i was going through the store and wondering what Androtics had in store then i read the top that said its recommended that you live in a hot area? then i looked up on the forum that it helps spread the pheromones out ... i live in minnesota where the winters get preeettty cold...any advice?

The real reason I came here was to spice things up at home with the wife and steer her mind more in the sexual direction and less work. And it has not been successful thus far, last night about 8-9 hrs from first app. of 2d A314 and 3s ammo I new my wife was getting off of work so I threw on 2s Instant Honesty and 2s Instant Openness . I felt this could get things chatty and maybe feeling loose and not so tense. Instead it felt like a normal night with the added your cologne is really strong (with a face). This is how its been with all of my stuff so far this week. Now I have taken into consideration that her period is just ending and she might be a little sensitive to the smell but come the middle of this week and I try stuff again and get the same reaction, im not going to be happy with the outcome. Its all fun and games for the workplace and in public but if it dont help me at home the stuff is useless to me. Im not sure if I should get the stronger 4x applications so it will take less sprays for the added pheromones and therefore less cover smell?

I dont work out in public I work from home on call and not really around people aside from the mall with the kids and its been really hard to find the sweet spots but I have been trying. My wife so far seems unaffected at 1-2 sprays of anything and the more that would go on the smellier I get.

So, I'm a sophomore in college, about to join a fraternity (at my school, freshmen cannot).

There's a GORGEOUS freshman girl that lives on the floor down from mine. We became "friends" instantly. She has a boyfriend who is two years YOUNGER than her (junior in HS........weird). She doesn't really like to talk about him around me.

Anyways, she very reluctantly showed me a dog tag that she wears after I've asked her several times on separate occasions to show me. It was her initials, her boyfriend's initials, and "forever. I promise."

Thing is, the girl is ALWAYS on me. Sitting on my lap, hugging me, kissing my cheek, and even "trying to give my hand a hickey (she was hammered)."

Anyways, one of my friends (a girl) told me she saw her partying with a lot of guys a couple of nights ago. She's EXTREMELY flirtatious, yet, she told my friend IN FRONT OF THE OTHER GUYS "Yanni (that's me) is SO incredibly hot. You can't imagine the things I'd do to him if I didn't have a boyfriend."

So last night, she got back from the beach (hanging with her boyfriend and other friends from home for her birthday). She comes back, and I thought she'd kind of stay away from me, as she's recently been with her boyfriend. Not the case. Outside of our dorm, there was a guy trying to spit game at her, putting his arm around her, but when I came out, she abandoned him and came to me.

Anyways, her roommate's boyfriend was over. She asked me if she could stay in my room for the night on my futon. I said sure. Later on, she sent me a text that said "I'm going to stay in here (I assumed her room) tonight, babe. Love you."

Today, I went into her room to wish her a happy birthday. She wasn't there, but her roommate was. Her roommate ended up telling me (she wasn't supposed to) that the girl stayed in another guy friends room (this guy has been trying to get in her pants).

This REALLY pissed me off.

My roommate and close friend at college read some of the texts, and told me she's playing me. I find it hard to believe because there are many times I ignore calls, texts, and her asking me to come over. They think I should completely stop talking to her.

What do you guys make of this? What's my next step? I've worn Turn Up The Heat a couple of times around her, but found out I really don't need pheros around her. Is it a lost cause?

Most importantly, what's my next move?

Ive been using Ammo and CTTM over a year now but I would like to get some advice/comments on mixing it up with Instant Jerk.

Is it okay to mix Instant Jerk with Turn Up The Heat and CTTM too? Thanks

Hey everyone, well first off I will admit that I am guilty of not doing my sweet spot testing, which I will be doing this week, but on to my report from last night!

So one of my buddies called me and asked me to go to the club, and I said what the hell mind as well go and do some testing.

I took my togo bottles and I noted everything that I noticed on my blackberry... so here we go:

1x AMMO to the neck at 12:45 AM when we got to the parking lot, we went to the Seminole Casino and Hotel in hollywood FL, this is a huge place with alot of clubs inside, so we walked for a little while and I was trying to see if I noticed any hits but nothing, so at 1:45 I applied the following:

1x Instant Openness to hair
2x IS to neck
2x ammo on wrist and back of the neck

I was in an elevator with 3 guys and a fine chick came in, I struck conversation, she just talked back but always looking down at her phone, never made eye contact... we were in the elevator for a good 2 minutes.

Anyways after that we went straight to the club with my buddy, at this point my buddy is a black male, and I am latin but very white lol, he wanted to go into this club which was 80% black, I didn't mind so we went in there, but I thought my chances be lower since I've never had pull with black females.

My buddy found an old gf of his and he immediately left with her to do their own thing, so at this point I was at the bar, ordered a drink and I chilled there for a little while, I had a good 2-3 girls order drinks next to me, and I was looking for eye contact but nothing, at this point I had been at the bar for about 45 mins, and I was about to leave to another club, at this point I was tipsy and I decided to do 1x Turn Up The Heat to my neck, at this point I had this black girl fine as hell but she completely ignored the fact that I was there.

At this point I decided to approach these 2 latin girls, they were very short, like 5'1 or 5'2 and I am 6'2 so I said hello, and approached them but they just kept dancing like I didn't exist so I thought to myself wow I think did over do it and I OD between the ammo and Turn Up The Heat.

At this point I went to the restroom and while I was in there tipsy, I sprayed 1.5x ammo to the neck and wrist, and .5 Turn Up The Heat... this is when the night took a turn for the best... I walked from the restroom to the dance floor and next thing I know I have two black girls dancing on me grinding and a white one joins them, I was like HOLY SHIT I didnt even approach them... so we kept dancing, and I mean they were fucking me on the dance floor, next thing I know I was against the wall with all this girls just grinding on me, one was kissing my neck, the other one the back of my neck LOL CRAZY!!!

It doesnt stop there, at this point another two black girls approach me and start dancing on me as well, they were all taking turns and sniffing my neck, I was like holy shit, I need help here, when I looked around I see guys giving me thumbs up and the bouncer just smiling, so I waved in some guys so they could get a piece of the pie, but no matter what they did they ended up coming back to me, one of them whispered in my ear, "I am ready to fuck you here right now" she was about 5'4 at that point I lifted her and pressed her against the wall and she was all down for it, but I didn't wanted to get kicked out so I cooled things down lol, after that I went to the rest room and I had some guys ask me how did I do it, lol I just smiled and told them to follow me outside that I would hook them up with some chicks... well fast forward to the end of the night, I got 3 numbers, and got some brain in my car while I was taking her home... oh and as I was leaving the club two bouncers pulled me aside and they were like man you had a killer night huh! and they were just like whenever you come around just call me to the front and you are in for free lol!

I love pheros.......

Ok so I haven't posted in a long while as I've been extremely busy, but this is the combo I've been using practically daily as of August twenty something, the start of school for me:

2 drops A314 (occaisionally 3, if no AMMO used then 4)
2 sprays Instant Gentleman
1 spray ISx4
1 spray IHx4
1 spray IOx2
50 mcgs p83 (2 sprays)
10mcgs p79 (1 spray)
25 mcgs p74 (1 spray)
50 mcgs Androstadienone (homemade, 1 spray)
0-2 sprays AMMO (depends somewhat on how fast the A314 came out, and how I feel that day)

Lately I've been covering that with 2 sprays Fierce. All of this has been sprayed on my wrists and neck and spread from wherever I sprayed it to the other 2 application points of those 3.

Now at the very beginning, I didn't use quite as much (no p79 or p74, sometimes less p83, or less Androstadienone, never less of both), and the girls were all over me... but still fairly... overwhelmed I suppose, in that they acted towards me as though I wasn't in their league... but it didn't matter as much on the first couple days, that hadn't been enforced in their brains as much yet I was just the new hottie. Therefore they didn't seem to flirt in the same normal sense... of course some did, but overall they were too busy adjusting things on them (hair, clothes, lots of hair flipping of course), staring at me, avoiding me seeing them staring at me, and trying to listen to me to do much else. As time goes by, they act more and more like they would towards someone who is out of their league, if they have a chance they are all over me, but they seem to think I am above them, to a great extent... although the p83 has kept the distance down and the kino up, which often goes way down when you are out of someone's league. I get very shy "hellos" where they see me in the hall, then look down as they are passing and sheepishly say it just above a whisper, hoping I'll hear. I can think of the faces of AT LEAST 20 girls whom I have NO IDEA what their name are, but they all know mine, and say hi to me in the halls. The same goes for lunch, just the other day I sat down where I usually do with my friends (almost entirely guys, its a pretty funny group), but they didn't show up for a bit, so I started eating. Then a new friend of mine (female) came up and started talking to me, and sat down at my table. In the next 3 minutes or so, about 6 other girls sat around the circular table, and all started talking to me and themselves, along with one guy who is moreso a wingwoman than anything, and only really hangs out with girls. Still though, they sat on the other side, until I joked that I was all alone over here, and they came rushing. It seems that if I give girls opportunity or hope that I could be theirs, they practically claw at it, but only for a while, because they seem to lose hope quickly if I don't keep letting them know either by complimenting them or otherwise. The effects have definitely been building, and I'm pretty much the king of my school as far as attraction seems to go, although none of the girls in my school seem to be confident enough to seduce the king into being their boyfriend or otherwise. They very definitely want to, but just can't hold it together, and thus stop trying. I don't see girls looking my way that much unless I break my normal pattern of looking around, as they are getting better at avoiding my eyes because they don't have the confidence to let me know they were checking me out. Example: I didn't ever start looking at the clock in the back of the room until the last couple days, when I do all the girls behind me look up to see if I was looking at them, then quickly back down. Then in the next 30 seconds about half to 3/4 of them will look back at the clock. I also catch a lot of them looking in their peripherals at me, when they are looking just past me. If there is nothing AT ALL interesting there, and they are constantly looking there or blushing or flipping their hair while they do it, I can sometimes safely assume they were looking at me. Being the king is fun, but only if you know how to handle it, it really is lonely at the top. UNLESS of course you bring someone up with you, which is what I'm trying to do by letting a girl who I've been friends with for a while and always thought was extremely attractive (though for whatever reason I appear to be the only one :() what I think of her. It has been a little bit awkward of course though with her, as I think and have always thought she was way out of my league, and she in all honesty probably thought she was below me without using pheromones, and its proving hard to get myself out of that set of thinking despite the signs everywhere that I'm wrong, partly from old habitual thinking, and partly because even though I can consciously realize that the reason girls aren't looking me over anymore is because they don't think they have a chance, my subconscious mind is still on the fence when it comes down to it. I REALLY wouldn't try anything this glorious for more than a day unless you are good at finding the signs, as you'll get one SPECTACULAR day and it will SEEM to wane when really it isn't doing that at all. Its good if you have confidence in yourself such that you don't need the blatant signs anymore, because they aren't going to think you'll need them either, and if you show or say you need compliments and whatnot to be ok, they'll be really confused.

Oh and btw, coolkat, you reminded me to tell the noobs: Androstadienone and p83 aren't going to get you laid really, they'll get you a girlfriend. In fact, that is the mix I'm trying to perfect: the "Instant Perfect Boyfriend" mix, one that gets a girl's innocent little girl fantasies going, that gives her that crush feeling. This probably wouldn't work QUITE as well on older women, as they are for the most part past those fantasies, and on to other ones, which require a bit more none, and maybe a dash of social proofing cops. I'm sure you'd still have plenty of success using these types of pheromones on them, but you'd probably get friend zone'd moreso, as the really f*cking awesome guy who they don't need to have sex with, in the same way that I'm sure many of you have a girl in your lives who is really f*cking attractive but for whatever reason it just isn't there, and you would probably never have sex with her, perhaps because you feel she is too great a friend to lose due to relationship complications down the road.

Note: The poll obiviously should say MX329, not MX353.

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Steve said:

"It can... push your confidence levels up to the maximum where if confrontation becomes a very real factor. You are just so confident in your actions and smoothness that if someone gets in your way you will let them know it. This is definitely for strong willed, maybe not so much for the timid looking to remain sheltered. "

Another post claimed that it made the girls calm and comfortable enough to do out of the norm things in public with you.. including strangers coming up and saying hi

Here's my post about it: http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-ph...tml#post355283

I don't think it had a fair chance, not many people got to test it.

First off, when it comes to using pheromones most here myself included would rather you waited until your square dancing hormones have settled down (around the age of 19-21) Why? we have no F'n clue how this stuff might effect you over the long term. There are various risks involved.

Neurotransmitters: Certain pheromones have been reported to cause "phero crash" not unlike a sugar or caffeine crash. Tiredness, lethargy etc. These are signals that activate portions of the brain that may not be used to being stimulated so strongly as they are when wearing a dose of artificial pheromones. This stimulation can deplete the brain of neurotransmitters leading to feelings of fatigue....we just don't know for sure how this will work on a teenager who's whole body including the brain chemistry are going through massive changes.

Likewise at your age the fluctuating hormones you experience naturally can cause mood changes that border on a damn split personality disorder. Think I'm exaggerating? Do you act the same way you did 2 years ago? probably not, will you act the same way 2 years from now? Not likely. I watched my brother go from being a super hyper talkative chatterbox as a little kid to a brooding rebellious long haired skater in just under a year, now a couple of years later he's a cocky confident young man. There's no telling how the neural stimulation of artificial pheromones on him would have effected his personality during that changing phase. He'd get pretty moody and depressed and a heavy dose of pheromones could have possibly made it worse....possibly self destructive.

Hormone feedback loop. When a body builder or pro athlete takes steroids his body gets a signal that he has enough testosterone (your main sexual and muscle building hormone) and the brain orders the balls to shut down production. Along the same lines, since most pheromones are metabolites and derivatives of testosterone it's possible that if the brain senses high levels of masculine pheromones and for a long enough period of time that it assumes the signal is yours, that it will assume you have plenty of testosterone and thus reduce production of the main hormone responsible for physically changing you from a boy to a man....sound pleasant?
I'm not saying this will happen, we just don't know, but it is possible. Basically by using pheromones during puberty you're being a guinea pig.
A better alternative would be to start exercising and eating a healthy diet to optimize your current hormone levels. Did you know that pro bodybuilders spend THOUSANDS of dollars a month experimenting on themselves trying to find the right combination of Steroids, Human Growth Hormone, Insulin, and IGF1 in the perfect holy grail ratio that they call the puberty cocktail? See nobody has been able to find the right doses in the right ratio's at the right time to mimic the hormone cascade that occurs during puberty...why do they care? Because the muscle most bodybuilders, weight lifters and athletes gain on a steroid cycle is temporary and goes away after a while....however any muscle you gain during puberty is pretty much with you for life. Take advantage of this time, maximize it and your NATURAL pheromone signature (produced as a side effect of all those hormones you're capitalizing on) should be fine.

Psychological dependence. Now I could be wrong and I'm sure that any teenage boy reading this will say to himself "Oh that's not me at all". But here's the thing. You went from a stage where girls were simply other humans that had cooties, or at best were nice company that you liked but you never quite understood why. At this age not only are you developing physically, but psychologically and socially as well. Girls are now different and you're learning how they respond to different ways of being talked to as opposed to the guys you know. You're learning that you have to talk to a female differently than you do to a guy.

Pheromones are a tool that enhances things, it doesn't replace anything but having been a teenager and gone through a shy stage myself I know full well that most young guys come here hoping it will replace the need to develop social skills and game...that it will cause the women to make the first move so you don't have to change, learn or grow. Suppose it works, suppose you don't have to do anything to develop the confidence to walk up and talk to a girl, she comes to you so you don't have to risk being rejected. Well at that point the tool has become a crutch and mentally/emotionally/psychologically you're still 15 even though your real age could be 20. Suppose you run out of pheromones and don't have the cash to buy more? Do you stay alone at home until you can afford your next order? What if the company goes out of business? Or in a possibility less jinxing for AD suppose the company becomes so big that all the guys you compete against are now using the same products? Well now that part of the playing field is level and you're left having to rely on social skills you never developed. A better alternative would be getting a few different books on meeting girls and picking up, don't follow the advice word for word but get a sense of the concepts and how you can apply them to your unique situation. Develop your social skills and game NOW and then when you hit college you can ENHANCE your game with some good pheromone products.

Social effects, you guys start checking out the early bloomers that are D cups before they can drive and get a hard on in class and you show up buying Turn Up The Heat thinking "awww hells yeah, this is gonna get the girls better than Axe"....five kinds of WRONG!
Fact is teenage girls tend to be scared and nervous around high None signatures. Worse yet, all the boys around you have skyrocketing testosterone levels which already makes them competitive and aggressive and a high none signature can enhance that aggression and direct it toward you. If you absolutely positively just GOTTA use pheromones in spite of being warned against the potential problems physically and mentally that can come from them then stick with a single Androsterone product like Instant Gentleman and some socials like Instant Openness, Instant Honesty or Shine....I'm not advising you use them at all, but if you're going to these will work better for what you want then Turn Up The Heat or Instant Jerk would.

Soooooo I got my package of Ammo + Instant Openness in the mail a few weeks ago. Have done some testing, trying to wear it not too often (don't want to make a habit of relying on them). Definitely appreciate the giftcard they give, and thanks to Jacob for the free gift.

I definitely notice the subtle differences in the way I interact with people and the way people interact with me. For instance, I walk with more confidence. I think the pheromones affect me as well and I have read somewhere that it can do this to the user. Awesome for me!

As for individually testing Ammo and Instant Openness, I did 4 sprays of Instant Openness last night with a group of 4 females and 3 guys (none of us were going for each other, so that's why I did social only) and I noticed just kind of a lighter and easier atmosphere to talk into. I haven't really noticed much of a difference in just testing Ammo, but i feel like that's where the me walking more confidently part comes in.

Anyway, I'm convinced that this stuff now works, at least from this company. A few years ago a friend bought pherolure and he never used the bottle. Found out recently that he just threw it out.

And onward, I'm looking to buy some new pheromones. Probably from the instant line unless some of you can recommend the p-whatever or mx-whatever series and adequately convince me it's better than what I'm looking for. The problem is I am piss broke but I can manage this if I just buy only 2 (if you can convince me to buy 3 I just might!). I've been looking at the following:
IS
Instant Honesty
Instant Jerk
Come Talk To Me Mix 2 (but this isn't available, anyone know when it will be, if i should wait?)

The ones I have, in case you decided that the above was too long to read are Ammo and Instant Openness. The free gift I received was a togo of Turn Up The Heat. I'm real interested in all of these and would like to know your thoughts on these.

Thanks for taking the time to read this long post haha. I just am going to add I'm 21 y.o. Asian male.

Ok, im looking for some opinions :)

Come the 18th ill be purchasing a bottle of A314, currently ive been using 3x ammo, 2x IS and 2x Instant Openness to go(this is for clubs btw) and 2x IS and 1x Instant Openness for work. Everythings been going superb and ive been testing aswell, pretty much found a good sweet spot so im not planning to change it at the moment.

However with the addition of A314, Im wondering how many drops i should use, i was thinking 2 for both clubs and work. Or would 2 for clubbing make me too unnaproachable?

I read a few posts about a fallout effect. Can someone explain in full detail of what that is? And how pheromone plays a part in that ?

Blackadam71

It's been a while since I last post due to work and school but before I summarize my general impressions over the past 2-3 months using A314 as a base, I want to start with a few hit report.

Yesterday
At Work
3 drops of A314 and 2 sprays of Instant Openness approx 30min before I showed up.

Self Effects: Same focused/confidence feel. It's interesting, I'm starting to notice the self effects less and less. Maybe I'm starting to become more alpha?

Effects on other: Old lady client was very nice to me and complimented me on how nice my hands are (firm skin, long and slender). I was like okay thanks.

Another guy, like a whole 12inchs taller than me came in with a computer problem. He was super nice and respectful.


Today:
Dance Class
3 drops of A314 6 hours prior to hit.
2 drops of A314 + 2 sprays of Instant Honesty 30min before I arrived at the venue.

So an old friend from who used to be in the dance team with me asked if I wanted to join him and a few other people for a class with this high calibre dance teacher. I was bored so sure, why not. It's been over a year since I last danced. I showed up, everyone was nice and warm. I'd call that a 1/2 hit

Hit1: This girl in the dance team asked if I worked out. She was apparently grabing my right deltoids in standard dance position. I consider this a hit because I've not worked out since I last danced with her (over a year ago). And she smiles whenever I look right into her eyes.

I also got eye contact and smile from the teacher (late 20's/early 30's). The interesting thing is that it was a huge workout. After an hour, i was sweating like i had just taken a shower. I suppose this increased the rate of diffusion in a short amount of time.

General Observation over the past 2-3 months.
This stuff is pretty good for work. I wear it, show up, people give me a lot more respect. I feel in the zone and can focus on the work. People will usually do what I say.

A few days ago, a coworker of mine told me about her frustration with work. What struck me was her candor and how she dove into her feelings and stuff. She's 21 years old. I suppose that was A314 as well. I'd usually wear A314 with a spray of either Instant Openness or IS or when still had the bottle, MX301.


Conclusion: This stuff works but it can be subtle at times. Also, congruence is huge. This is my weakpoint right now because I am naturally introverted and kind of beta and usually will try to avoid confrontations whenever possible. I need to def find a balance. Now that the fall semester started, I'm thinking about really testing this at school. However, most of my classmates are guys and so I'll have to find other way to test pheromones effectiveness in terms of attraction.

More reports to come.

So i am going to be purchasing pheromones for the first time and i have some questions. I already know what I am getting but I was wondering if the 2x Ammo is worth the extra money. How many sprays of ammo and instant shine should i use together and where? Also is there discrete shipping because I want to keep my purchase private and my two roomate tend to be kinda snoopy when i have packages arrive. Thanks for any help

"Is it legal to use pheromone in the US?" and "How to defend that it's legal verbally?". This question is going on in my mind for quite a time. Now I moved to live in the school's dorm (Christian high school) and I just wanna make sure that I won't have any trouble with this and can defend myself against questions if they have.

Please provide me answers for these question.

Thanks,
M'

:)GOT a few hits couple days ago, not sure witch pheromone did it, but got a hit on a lady that in her 30's all she said was she asked me over in the ER and said theres something different about you but couldnt figure out what it was thats all she kept saying, i had asked her was it my new goatee she said no,, i said ok i lost 40lbs about about that she said no thats not it either, i was wearing 4 DROPS of A314 and i thing 2 sprays of Instant Honesty, 2 sprays of Ammo and 2 sprays of Instant Openness but not sure on the last 2, it that helps anyone, i am wandering being im 44 year old male willmit take more then it would a 20 or 30 year old male

Self Effects:
Aggressive (Only within the first 10-15 minutes after application)
Confident
Energetic
Focused

Report:
I arrived at work this morning and applied my mix in the toilet. Somebody had left the eftpos machine in the back room instead of the office, normally this wouldn't piss me off but today i felt pretty fucked off that i had to walk 10 meters, go through a door and pick it up lol weird i know. This was the only sign of aggression from me during the day.

I arrived at my shift abit late but i really couldn't care less, and neither did the customers. Normally i'd get scorned for being 5 minutes late but today all the customers who were waiting acted very friendly towards me and a few even started idle chatter with me which is very unusal. 30 minutes later i recieved my only negative hit so far and that was from an indian male in his early 40's. I said hello and smiled as you do in a customer service role, he started to lift his head like he was about to reply and then my pherocloud hit him and he slumped his head back down and avoided eye contact, I could tell he was a little scared to say the least.

Alot of the females around my age group today were very chatty and somewhat flirty with me. A fairly decent female (8/10) came through and during her previous visit i heard her say "What an arsehole" just as she was walking off. I don't think she liked my DHV but had to lay it down as i could tell from her body language that she thought she was "all that & more" while i was simply on the level of a pesant lol moving foward when she came through this morning she maintained eye contact for a verrry long time, it felt like she was undressing me with her eyes. I also noticed she was very flirty towards me, to the point that i was thinking she was waiting for me to make the first move. Then 5 minutes after she left her friend came in and she walked right back over and started hovering around where i work and kept staring at me, She didn't even talk to her friend lol! Her friend also seemed pretty interested in me aswell. Too bad i have a girlfriend, Still it's good for the inner-ego.

Also another fine looking female came through (white,blonde,slim, 22-24) and she was very flirty with me i noticed her eyes were dilated and she couldn't stop smiling and giggling every time i replied to what she said. Made me feel like i was high school for a moment lol! She also opened up to me and told me about how she got a certain ring on her finger which was pretty random but was good for a conversation filler.

The only downside is that females who were older did not act like this at all apart from maybe 2 or 3, But i already knew those customers had somewhat of a liking towards me so i don't think they really count.

As i was cashing up one of the other male workers started talking about watching porn and how many gigabytes of it i have (really how did you get this information?) and how i love to sleep with different women, which i will point out right now is not the case. He's just seen me gaming girls for thrills at work and thinks im sort of AIDs infected player lol (He's just lonely i guess)

After work i got home and the maid was out and about cleaning up i approached her and asked her if i could grab a few towels while she was around. The other maid who was present said " Ill get some towels for you" and that was quickly shot down by the first maid who ordered her to carry on cleaning while she delt with me. While i was walking towards the laundry cupboard she started acting very flirty with me in her responses during our conversation and when i finally got my towels she says to me " Mm that's such a nice big room wouldn't it be better if you had a little company" with a massive grin on her face. At this point i noticed she started to go all red and just replied to her in a fairly dull manner as i have a girlfriend and can't really sleep around. I was walking back and foward between room's and noticed she kept following me at a distance then when i went to walk in my room i turned around and she acted like she wasn't interested then at the last minute she snapped her head back to get one last look at me before the door closed lol.

I hope this wasn't too much of a hassle to read.


----Report Out

I had on Ammo + IS + Instant Honesty at this event.

A few of the girls, mostly in early 30's, came up and talked to me. One of them acted like she wasn't trying to sniff my ammo (Game) on my neck, but it was so obvious, lol. She kept putting her cheek and nose there, heh. Of course, being a gentleman that I am, I acted like I didn't even notice ;)

Also, many of these girls came at me with similar tactics, lol. I think they might have been implying something. One of them kept telling me that she has to leave and go home, but she wouldn't. She would just stay by the door and keep on looking at me. She . cam up to me to tell me this again a few times.

Also, there was this girl (~30), who told me she was going over to another bar (twice), kept on looking at me as to somehow urge me to leave the venue with her. Yet, another one in her early 30's kept on telling me how she was going to leave and eat like five freaking times, while giving me some puffy dog eyes, lol

I had not thought about this, but I think this is it. The girls in their 30's are more likely to be comfortable with their sexuality and have more experiences than ones in their 20's. They wanted to leave the venue with me and see how things go from there(possibly, all the way to home base, lol). This is not common with girls in there early or mid 20's, whom I commonly associate with. Next time, I shall tell them I will head out to wherever with them and see how it goes from there ?! :)

I'm 18 and I use the chikara scented pheromone, I use two sprays(wrist, neck) and I it don't seem to work, should I apply more or less. I also smoke cigarettes.

which pheromone should i use for a irst time user and what is mx330 is that good for a first time user?

I have Instant Gentleman, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty, AMMO, Turn Up The Heat, and CTTM right now soon to have IS and A314 what are some good mixes?

Thanks in advance :D

I know that most young teenagers shouldn't be using pheromones at all, but let's be realistic...telling them that is like telling them they shouldn't be in situations that require them to use condoms either. They're gonna do it.

Likewise most of the new users, including and especially the teenage males tend to find their way to the forum AFTER they've received their first purchase which almost ALWAYS included Turn Up The Heat or at the very least Ammo.

I think it would be a good idea for AD to design a product that targets the obvious and predictable wants of teenage males (GIRLS!) but with a formula that works specifically for their type of body chemistry and the most likely targets they're going to be around....Ammo JR if you will.
Say perhaps instead of equal portions of Androsterone, None and Androstenol you shift the quantities and ratio's to something more along the lines of say 5mcg Androsterone, 2.5 mcg A-Androstenol and 1 mcg None. Hell you could even throw in 2.5 mcg of TAC and TAA if you like to make it even more social. It has None so it will have good attraction effects but enhanced with greater Androsterone type maturity and very social.

I know there's product combo's that can create a similar effect but bear in mind these are teenage boys that might have little to no income and will usually purchase only one or two products. If there was something in the AD store where a product was described in a way that appeals to what these guys are looking for I think we'd see a lot fewer 15 year olds jumping the gun and buying double strength Turn Up The Heat and being suprised when they get ghosted.

so i finally got my giftcert(for the intro thread)..and the impulsive 15 year old i am, i spent it all after i saw it in a matter of 15 minutes...now that i think back on it, i think i might've ordered the wrong thing...i ordered instant gentleman and Turn Up The Heat but should i have gotten ammo instead? and if i should switch them, my giftcert. doesn't cover all of it...because Turn Up The Heat is probably the wrong thing for me..but its always nice to have a backup
so is ammo right for me? or should i just keep what i have? im 15 going into sophmore year this year in high school..

i also picked instant gentleman because i have a baby face and it says it makes me 'seem' older.

Here's a nice little summer mix I concocted, you might want to try it.. it got some women to take action and really flirt with me :D:D they were so friendly.. (everything was applied to my neck)

1 drop A7 (-none) and 1 drop classic A314 mutant left both to dry, seperately


Then apply afterwards:

2 sprays TAC @2.5mcg (Total 5mcg )

4 sprays TAH (total 10mcgs from big bottle)
2.5 sprays TAF (total 6.25mcgs) (wanted to apply 2 spray and by mistake applied 2.5 actually)



5 sprays P79 unfragranced
4 sprays P74 unfragranced (total 50mcg from small bottle)


1 spray P83 (neroli - this goes last!!)



Covered with a cologne




I don't have much P83 left so I won't be able to really retry this..

The last time I had three drops of A314 and two shots of ammo, everything was just dandy.
That was, however, in a crowd where I had exactly one friend.

Yesterday I narrowed it down to two drops of A314 but still used two shots of ammo when I went to a place where I knew just about everybody. I didn't make any new enemies, but it was hard to keep a conversation going with some of the guys I know damn well. A couple of them avoided me and I mean dodged me as if I was a god damn bullet, pretty much criss crossing through the room like I couldn't get to them them as they did.

Add to that a whole bunch of unwanted attention from chicks you just don't want (good friends ex's, good friends new girlfriends etc.) and I felt like I had to go home.

I solved it like I always have done since beginning of time - I got really, really shit faced and that brought everything back to almost normal. Still people didn't fuck with me, but no one seemed to like the thought of me waking up in their home the next morning neither. My friends got talkative, but for one guy who lives in another town, he's an extreme alpha male and I've always gotten along just fine with him.

This time I would've had to strap the man to a chair to speak with him for more than the few minutes that I did. He vanished like a god damn ninja and we had absolutely no kind of argument before he did.

Immediately I knew it was because of the pheromones and that was the beginning of the end.

Had I been a preacher I would've collected the souls of every living thing in that place last night, I can tell you that. They would've followed me to hell and a few would've followed me back if I'd just re-applied along the way.

In a crowd where I know most people, I think I'm gonna cut down on this stuff in the future. I like my friends and I like talking to them.

Still it was an OK night out in my books. :) It sure was interesting, educating and fun.



EDIT: Took out the most blatant typos.

So after a lot of testing the past year, I have to say andosterone has had the most noticeable effects on myself and others. I started with A314, and experienced the feeling of being "the man" and the alpha male with two drops under my nose. Instant Gentleman has a similar respect vibe, but higher doses (3sprays) makes me feel "off". I'm pretty sure it's the other ingredients (tac?) that make it less desirable in high doses for myself.

Although many get into pheros for the attraction aspects, it's their other benefits that caught my attention. I never thought Androsterone would be one of my favorites as it enhances my already somewhat serious personality, but I can tell you why every male should use it as a base.

Whether it's your job, relationships with the opposite or same sex, or anything where you have to deal with people even walking down the street, gaining respect is invaluable.

Wearing Androsterone and similar "respect" pheros can ehance (still need a congruent personality) so many things. If you have a job where your salary is dependent on your sales, Androsterone may increase your income as many have reported more people buy from them with Androsterone or A314. It could mean getting a raise. It could mean getting the job in the first place when you go in for the interview. It could mean getting more clients. It could mean friendlier customers. It sometimes pays for itself when you think about it. If you've ever worked or dealt with people (coworkers or mostly customers) who give you grief or try to belittle you over stuff that may not even be your fault, Androsterone can be like a shield against this.

Reduced stress - when you feel calm, in control, people listen to you, and you don't have to deal with people getting on your case about stuff just because they want to "take it out" on someone, the reduction in stress alone can mean health and life improvements just from using pheromones. Plus just knowing ahead of time people are likely to respect you can make you feel more calm when going into an unknown situation.

Attraction - women want a man they can respect. You're more likely to appear you have your stuff handled, more masculine, the alpha male, and it works to create a natural attraction towards your general character without the potential backfire of none. (I love none just as much though)

This post was inspired by a situation at work tonight. We were all very busy, and a person complained and chewed out a coworker belittling him for something that wasn't even his fault. They then took it out on another manager who was in charge. I only briefly ran into this person, but they didn't bother me in the least bit and just asked me to help out my coworker (me and my coworker have the same job and responsibilities) because he didn't seem to know what he was doing. I've noticed many times at work, even when dealing with drunks, that I seem to get a certain amount of respect with Androsterone. If they do complain to me, it's rarely directed at myself personally.

I've now decided to never leave home without my Androsterone. I also think a bit of none added to the Androsterone is good for enhancing the "don't take it out on me" vibe if dealing with potential complainers. I can't think of a single situation where a bit of respect and masculine appeal wouldn't be beneficial. The only thing to watch out for is keeping the levels lower when you want to be a bit more care free/less serious or you don't want to come across as intimidating.

so i finally got my giftcert(for the intro thread)..and the impulsive 15 year old i am, i spent it all after i saw it in a matter of 15 minutes...now that i think back on it, i think i might've ordered the wrong thing...i ordered instant gentleman and Turn Up The Heat but should i have gotten ammo instead? and if i should switch them, my giftcert. doesn't cover all of it...because Turn Up The Heat is probably the wrong thing for me..but its always nice to have a backup :)
so is ammo right for me? or should i just keep what i have? im 15 going into sophmore year this year in high school..

i also picked instant gentleman because i have a baby face and it says it makes me 'seem' older.

So usually Saturday is my lazy day and day off of pheromones. I have some to realize that on days without the pheromones i realize that the personal effects are not there but when i am wearing it i don't realize they are there. Trying to distinguish this feeling but its just a find of the day.

Alright now to the hits. I didn't have any pheromones on for the entire day until later at about 9:30 when i headed out without any destination. just before i left i made a quick mix that i thought would be fun. 1x AMMO to hair (i like the lingering effect and slow diffusion rate) 2x Instant Honesty (1x to wrists and 1x to neck) 2x IS (same aplication as Instant Honesty) 3x Instant Openness ( neck wrist and inner elbow).

Sorry about the lack of format, as i am still a new user i have not come up with any for of organized thought so far so if you have any suggestion for a format i would love to hear it.

Ended up at a hooka bar with 2 good friends of mine and a number of new people to meet.

Well first one of my good friends there i had told about my experiments with the pheromones and he then told the other 3 that were there in the beginning and they were all VERY interested in what i had to say. Though i couldn't find a place to start with pheromones as there are so many unique features.

This first friend (T) brought a lady with him that was fairly attractive when i sat down and started to tell my story on pheromones i saw she was getting highly fidgety i would have long eye contact with her and she would knod her head as if saying yes i understand what your saying and agging me on to continue. Her hands would not stay still in her lap with excitement. I also knoticed a high increase in rate oof breathing but it was too much all at once for me to get all the sings. But they were alll highly prominent. Throughout the night we would hoold long eye contact and smiles and constantly out of my periferal vision i would see her looking at me didnt seem to have any hair play but enough attention was focused that way without it. So this girl (L) was there with T and i wasn't sure if they were together or on a semi date so i didn't want to take all of her attention away from him so i backed away and let her out of my phero cloud after the first conversation with i had her full attention with. We were outside so i had to sit close to have my cloud recognized.

Other hits of the night. Girl (D) a freind of mine that i have seen around a few times and hung out with once at a club (but we didn't dance together, which i find odd) wasn't expection me to show up and so i surprised her and said hi. She and i are already very flirty around each other she has a past record of being a player so i gotta watch out there, protection first right :-P. When i arrived she left who she was sitting next to gave me a hug and sat down on the bench next to me and made full leg contact. We had a lovely conversation and i could easily sense a lot of jealousy coming from the other men that she left earlier. Made my impression then went back outside. Later that night she left early and said her good by's, a typical hug good by but i held her in closer after we pulled away and got a fairly noticeable kiss vibe s gave her another hug and kissed her temple then she left. Just about five minutes later i get a text saying "you owe me a kiss next time" everything got better from there i sent a flirt text back and things escalated so now i have to visit her tomorrow and see all what will go down. Keep you posted later.

For those of you who don't know me and who i don't know if you've read this far thanks for listening to my ramble thus far. I'm looking to create a journal with a format but am lazy and don't have a format so its hard to organize thought. I would love help with ways that i can become an active member and get as many tips and tricks as i can from everyone. Back to the rant :)

Back outside girl taps on my shoulder and asks me to take a picture of them so of course i take the opprotunity and do so. girls (AV) and (AL) i will call them. immediately i can tell that AL was the leader of the two especially since later in conversation AL was talking AL up to no extent and playing wing-man for her. Don't know if it was a conscious talk up or autopilot one but eh. AL showed me her hat which had a hidden pocket in it. While she had her hat off Al was playing with her hair and holding very prolonged eye contact within conversation. When they left i got both AV and AL to give me hugs which was fun since i only meet them half hour before.

Thats about all i got for tonight so far thanks for reading my rant :) remember i'm new as well as not a writer at all so hope i'm not too boring to read :) thanks again

As I've said before I'm young (16) so I was wondering if my -none levels are already to high to use the product alpha A314 and still get positive reactions.

Also does A314 cause others to respect the wearer to the point where they are somewhat timid to approach him/her?

I want to use a product I own called beaches because It smells really good and would be a good cover scent but it contains -none and since I'm young I already produce a lot of -none and I don't want to OD with it.

I heard that using products high in Androstenol will buffer the -none so I'm wondering if I used IS, Instant Openness, and Instant Honesty would it make me able to use enough beaches to cover the scent of my other pheromones without ODing or would those products have no effect in buffering the -none?

I have been testing P83 along with my work mix results here:
http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-ph...p83-44537.html

Today is day 4 and Ex is not working, so I figured I would use this day to take off from other pheromones and test P83 solo.

Day 1: P83 Solo Test
3s P83 10mcg 30ml (L, R and Center Neck)
Application Time: 6:00 Am, refresher 11 am, 3s same app points.

Self-Effects: First Application
One more day with no feelings of aggravation 2+ hours into test.
Within 1 hour of application time mood feels elevated.

I have OCD, and one thing I have noticed with P83 I just don't seem to be experiencing the same level of obsessive thoughts as I have in the past. For two days since the aggravation has dissipated, its almost as if the upbeat mood keeps me focused on more positive things.

With A314 I feel unaffected, and an event occurred today where I should have been completely riled up, but as it occurred I was calm, cool and collected. I don't know if this was because of P83 or residual effects of A314 along with subliminals and affirmations.

Subjects:
Co-worker 1
Co-worker 2
Customers compilation
Customer 1


Co-Worker 1: Female, Caucasian, early 20's
Amount of time expired since application: approx 1hr
Distance: 1 -10 feet at all times.
Duration: 6.5 hours

co-worker 1 is same co-worker in prior post who has a history of pathological lying. Today I experienced another day where her lying was almost non-existent. There might have been 1-2 statements she made that might be minor lies, but this girl tells whoppers.
If P83 can cure this girl of her lying, I'm gonna inject it into bottles of shampoo and give them to her as gifts LOL j/k

CUSTOMERS:
Amount of time expired since application: Various
Distance: 3 feet
Duration: 1 - 5 minutes

As I stated in the title P83 made me Mr. Charisma. I was on today, had people smiling, laughing, just loving their interactions with me.
One customer commented to me, "You are so nice, I know I come in here with a bad mood, but every time you just make me smile."

We cannot accept tips, but we have a bucket for MDA donations, this thing was more full than we had ever seen it before, and I was the only one on register for the entire 8 hours of my shift.

Interesting Observations:
I am finding reactions among age ranges and gender to be pretty standard in all my experiences with P8 from 10-30mcgs

Females:
12-15 yrs Intense giggling, almost non-stop
16-21 Dreamy almost DIHL not quite.
22-28
29-40+ This age range is quite wide, but it seems to affect those in the upper age ranges the most, and most often. Reactions range from embarrassment, pupil dilation, touching of chest, neck, hair, anything physical.

Males:
the reaction seems to pretty standard across the board. Jovial, very warm and receptive.

Gay Men:
Gay men seem to love this stuff. From my experiences with my gay co-worker, to a few customers who were almost as giddy as the young school girl type. One gay male customer in particular today was flushed, couldn't stop smiling and would buy anything and everything I offered.


REFRESH / REAPPLY:
3s P83 10mcg 30ml (L, R and Center Neck)
Yes this might be overkill, or an OD, but it was fun.

Self Effects: 2nd application
I didn't even leave the kiosk to spray this, I darted off into a corner and hit the same 3 app points as earlier all on the neck.
Within 10 minutes I was loopy and boy was I having fun. I was no longer just Mr. Charismatic, I was the funniest guy on the planet.

Co-Worker 2: 19 year old black male.
Amount of time expired since 1st application: 5 hours
Amount of time expired since 2nd application: Immediate
Distance: 1 -10 feet at all times.
Duration: 4 hours

Co-worker 1 left for her 35 min lunch, I hit the reapply and within 15 minutes the two of us were in hysterics laughing at anything and everything that was going on, almost to the point of tears.
This went on for a good 20 minutes or so.

Customer 1: 25-30 year Caucasian male
Amount of time expired since 1st application: 5.5 hours
Amount of time expired since 2nd application: approximately 25 mins
Distance: 3 feet
Duration: 2-5 mins

Customer and "wife," ordered their drink and went on their way. Nothing eventful during their time at the register. I did notice however the man would not look at me, acted as if he was bothered.

Roughly 5-10 minutes later customer 1 leans in through the hand out window and says something to me. I don't quite understand what he says and ask him to repeat it.
"If you ever disrespect my wife again I will fuck you up."
Confused I ask him what I said to his wife and he just keeps going.
Here's the interesting part for me. I have almost no reaction. I just wave my hands and say, "Get out of here."
Guy continues and starts to include white supremacist comments.
"White power bitch! I know where you work."
I just shake my head and say, "I said go on get out of here." I'm not even yelling, I'm acting almost as if he's a pesky fly that just needs to be shooed away.

I do not know what caused this reaction, the only negative reaction I experienced at all with any of my recent mixes.

CONCLUSIONS:
I will do more P83 solo testing, however ex returns to work tomorrow and I want to continue my baseline phero signature with her.
I am still liking this product. It boosts my energy, helps me to focus on the positive as well as helps me to eliminate obsessive negative thoughts.
It has these positive results on others too, and if you're playing on the other team, its a definite item you might want to try along with Mystery Boy.
Also 5 hours may be too soon to do a refresher especially one of equal initial application size.
Next solo test will again be 30mcgs but only a 10mcg refresher.

Okay here's the deal, I have Instant Jerk, Turn Up The Heat, and AMMO. IS does NOT go over well with my girl, causes more fights and her crying than I ever seen. And ive only wore it 3 times around her.. Turn Up The Heat seems doto her, But AMMO and my free Instant Honesty works wonders on her. First day of this semester (first year using nones) I used 1 shot of Instant Jerk on neck, Instant Honesty in hair, 1/2 spray of Turn Up The Heat on wrists and AMMO on my forearms. 1st class (Eng/theater) 15 students, 3 girls, ALL 3 sat next to me, 1 touched my abs during an exercise lol. 2nd ( Hist.) class this real sexy chick i sat next to and during meeting each other she seemed really smiley and interested in everything I had to say which was awesome. When class was done she said bye and see you tues. That got me psyched ! So my question is what is the best combo for people who you are close with (like my girl) and people who you wanna get close with (Hist chick). Im trying to study with her hahaha :)
and should i continue to wear these everyday to class?

side note:
my girl and i broke up after 4 years because she thought i cheated on her when i didnt, and i find out she F*ckd an other guy...but after i started using nones she wanted me back. she told me that she still loves me..so im not being an ass at all! I just want to hear my perfect potion combo to increase closeness with both parties (including sexual).

Thanks for your help and time guys! ^^

PS my girl really REALLY likes AMMO and Instant Honesty if that helps...so should i keep Instant Jerk in the mix or should i throw something else in? up the potency on AMMO or the very least Turn Up The Heat? haha i am fairly new at this "supplement" working at a vitamin store i can look good, get it up but chemistry/science is FAR more interesting and more fun than any of that

I ran some errand and visited a spa to buy some stuff.
pheromones:
2 mx301 on each side of the neck - neroli
2 Instant Honesty 1x on each side of the nect and 1 on the back - neroli
2 P83 10mcg per spray on each wrist - neroli
2 Ammo ff21 on each wrist - ff21
1 Turn Up The Heat on my upper abs (intentionally cover it up so that it's not that strong).
Dial magnetic Blue body wash

App point 15 minutes before going out except for the Dial (2 hours earlier). So this girl behind the counter was busy looking for my stuff and one of the other worker is leaving for the day (she's blonde caucasian american). On her way out she complimented me by saying, 'Oh I really like your shirt, it smells really REALLY good!!". I just smiled and thanked her. To be honest I don't know which smell she liked. My guess is it's AMMO since it's the strongest of the bunch and I felt like I'm reeking that stuff. I personally don't like Ammo's scent but girls might like it..... :D Went grocery shopping & walmart afterwards but no real hits there.

I think pheromones could impact different people differently (depending on their race/gender/age/mood etc) which makes them tricky to experiment.

Interesting “hits” if you will today at the mall.
I think I have realized the perfect testing arena for a lot of the pheromones.
I wore the usual stuff today, which was
· 3 drops of A314 wrists and sides of neck
· 1 spray instant openness 2x to wrists
·Couple of half spritzes of 2x ammo to wrists and neck
· 1 spray of 2x instant shine to wrists and rubbed on neck
· One spritz of instant jerk to back of neck (courtesy of AD…thanks guys!)
· Usual couple spritzes of Davidoff, Silver Shadow

So anyways, went to a local mall where I get my hair cut and my body limbered up at one of those oriental massage kiosks.


First stop was the hair cut. My first compliment was my Lia, my “stylist.” She greeted me by a handshake…then reached to me and pulled me in for a bug hug. She rarely hugs. She isn’t a touchy feely type, and is into leather, chains and that sort of thing, and usually has the dominating personality. Hey, I’m not complaining. Also, she is taller by about 4 inches. During the haircut, she kept resting her hands on my shoulders and neck while giving me the haircut during our brief chitchat sessions. This was a new thing. Never been done before.


Next stop was the oriental massage kiosk. I use the same woman every time. She’s probably about 38 or so. She’s nice looking for her age and uses very good techniques that get right up under the tense muscles. Not my type, but I treat her very well and tip good for her hard work.


Today however, she was very different. At first…same stuff. But…she does this thing where she goes right up to your lower back to use her elbows on your upper neck between the shoulder blades. She starts grinding me with her…um….yeah. That was obvious.


Remember, we are in the middle of a mall. (personally though, I still get into it and let myself go)


Next, she does this thing where she takes your hand in hers, but doesn’t normally interlock fingers….this time she did that, AND she was caressing my hand with her thumb. She only did this with my left side. She did not repeat this with the right hand. When nearly finished, she was doing some forearm work on me and whispered to me “Does this feel ok?” I said yes, and she says, “You smell very nice, what cologne you wear? Very very nice.”

That was way, way out of place for her. She is usually an in charge woman, and I think the instant jerk plus the other stuff had to be doing something to her senses.


We’ll see what happens next outing.

Today I decided to use my p75 at 2.5mcg at a spray. Only used one spray to front of neck (not counting that limp premature spray at the start of every bottle)

Along with one drop of Androstadienone. (Now learning about the 30ml shortage, which is why I haven't receive my order to dilute it yet)

Anyways. I worked with this one girl from 930-4. At around ten, this girl started talking. At around noon she was still talking. She was telling me ALOT of stuff. To the point where I was getting kind of annoyed. Another girl came in at one. Same thing at around 2ish she started talking my ear off, joking being extremely happy and silly.

Now this is where I noticed something strange. Later on during the day I noticed a lot of hair flipping from female customers ranging from 16-25ish.
Moving there hair behind their neck so their breasts wouldn't be covered. I counted 7 pretty girls doing this from 2ish until I got off work at 4.
It seemed as though this didnt start happening until 4-5 hours after applying the 2.5mcg of P75.

Either way it was an interesting day none the less.

I am sorry about that! Having John contact both you and Hyper to make sure things are okay, and to make sure we make you happy.

** Note: I pulled this from the thread it was sitting in and moved it here to the Men's forum. It's slightly off topic, but I want to make sure as many people as possible read it, and the Men's Forum is the busiest. I know not everyone watches the Store Announcements Forum where this belongs.

To anybody with delays in customs, please note:

We send out over 30 custom orders a day, many same and next day. Same and next day is always what we shoot for, despite what the cart says. We say 2 to 10 just to cover a disaster or an accidental out of stock situation (which can happen with customs since the cart can't accurately track milligrams of pheromones left - it's just not in its programming at this time).

John, I, or our supervising formulator worked non-stop these past few weeks to make the new MXs and to re-stock the Ps, so that wasn't the issue it may appear to be.

The few "minor disasters" we had that caused some delay were annoying, but so far not fatal.

First (*Most Relevant**): US Cobalt Bottle Shortage.

First, and perhaps more relevant here, our bottle supplier ran of of the 30ml bottles we normally use. They didn't receive their own shipment, so we didn't receive ours. The other 3 known US sources of the exact same bottle and top were also "out"; looks like nobody received their shipment.

We had to go to a different source to get a slightly different version of the bottle, then quality test it to make sure it was an acceptable replacement. This caused a bit of a gap in production, even in custom To Gos, as problems like this tend to cascade and spread to everything.

Supplier problems can be a bit like leprosy. They're core issues and are systemic, spreading everywhere the long they go on.

Second: Office Move.

We moved the office, while continuing preparation and tweaking. The office was very full the last few weeks, as John, I, an HVAC tech and a handyman sometimes got in the way getting the new lab up to standard.

Btw, fixing or improving facility issues is slow in LA. Codes and regulation have the perverse effect of making the buildings sort of old and crummy, instead of safer and more modern. Airflow and cooling problems really hit us hard in our move. Too many things offgas in our line of work not have effective airflow.

The infrastructure in LA overall is sort of backwards to what a city should have, which causes unforeseen delays. Even FedEx sometimes decides to randomly not show up. Weird LA problems that many other cities don't have. That gets in the way of the day to day a bit, but we've learned to work around that with time. We have experience with this, and do our best.

It's frustrating, but we don't consider this to be the issue it used to be. John was surprised, though, as this was his first taste of trying to "operate" in LA. It wasn't pretty at first!

Third: Typical Ongoing Business Interruption Attempts

There's also the forum (trolls, hackers, phantom neg reppers, agent provocateurs) and outright business interruption (Adwords fraud, botnets, etc.) attacks a project like ours attracts from the seemingly restless peanut gallery and some the outright criminals in the old school tell-'em-anything-to-make-a-sale "pheromone industry'.

These have been fairly low grade the past few weeks, thankfully, and Jacob and Ben's jobs shouldn't have been directly impacted as far as I know. Unless, of course, one of our irksome pests coordinated the buy out of all 30ml cobalts in the country, just like the time Bill Gates was said (by a comedian) to have tried to buy all the pants in the US as a prank. :)

Besides some recent Adwords issues, many of these types things the past year or so have been aimed directly at me. Instead of aiming at the whole company, they aim at what they consider to be the heart or the head (and is a large part of why I lost my son, as the second autopsy confirms stress related disorders induced in large part by the reckless and remorseless, many of whom continue to taunt me to this day).

Make no bones about it, that does effect processing and growth in a very core and in a long term way. It prevents us from moving ahead and sometimes even sets us a bit back, but usually doesn't effect as much of the immediate day to day. Jacob and Ben usually operate blissfully unaware of these issues most of the time until the occasional outright financial attack occurs and we can't order suppliers or pay them for their time.

Again, most recent issues have been low grade recently compared to some in the past. I can't say it doesn't effect us, but it's not as dramatic as it has been in the past. Most of these creeps are probably on vacation. Thank god! May their idle hands find bliss in more positive endeavors.

Lastly:

Again, none of that should've been fatal to shipping customs. I'm actually surprised to see delays of 10 days. While John and I have been in office every day the past few weeks, we've seen Jacob furiously formulating customs, Ben shipping all the while. It was difficult to detect any any obvious problems the past few weeks, but obviously some things slipped through and I'm sorry for having no picked up on it earlier.

The good part is: We'll use any problem you guys present to us to fix anything in workflow we can.

Again, we aim to deliver more than we promise on our home and policy page. When something like that happens, and we haven't made any announcements to the forum about large issues, please write jlavalle@androtics.com.

We'll work hard to make you guys happy, and we'll continue to tweak the systems more to reduce the likelihood of such problems occurring. You just need to make sure you elevate serious or long lasting problems to John or I (preferably John as I work more on innovation and growth than operations now), so we can look at the big and little pictures and see where the sticking points are.

Thank you,
Jasmin

PS -- Please keep in mind, we are also trying to move much of the non-custom work out of the lab and to a fulfillment house -- that should help a lot. Too often our formulators are shipping items anybody could ship. It's a waste of precious resources, and sometimes an unnecessary wrench in the gears.

I know some of you guys don't like the idea of this, but if it works, it should help us do everything better and focus our limited resources on the things that matter more. Androtics HQ is about innovation, and innovation only. That means new MXs, new Ps, more customs, more blind testing and feedback. More research and development.

Even Steve Jobs at Apple likes to say they don't have the resources to do X, Y and Z, even though they have all the money in the world compared to most companies (over $25B in cash). What he means is even with all that money, he still doesn't have enough people on his team to do more. Even with more than 30k people, he still says that. Amazing.

"We're the largest startup on the planet." - Steve Jobs, D8 Conference Jun 1, 2010, 10:37pm.

Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University: Apple: The World's Largest Startup



We're literally about the size of a pizza parlor, a spec of dust in comparison to Apple. Yet I've counted almost as many suggestions on the forum to us, as Apple it seems Apple gets on Apple forums. Seems like it, anyway, as it induces much of the same overwhelm when I read either.

I want to make it clear I appreciate every drop of feedback. It's when it's contradictory, that it's overwhelming.

For example, you can't necessary have a triad of high touch service, high quality products and the lowest prices from a tiny company. Even when you deal with a well funded company like Zappos, you do pay a bit more for the fantastic service and overnight shipping. The world isn't quite up to a Star Trek level of efficiency yet!

While we've done a lot and amazed people, we honestly have extremely limited resources and we've spread those resources too thin trying to please everybody, all of the time. That often ends up pleasing nobody.

Please bear with as we re-organize around our roots. Innovation over everything else.

We don't want to become almost arrogant no-sayers like 37signals.com, but we do need to be far more focused. More like a laser than a lightbulb. More project oriented like Apple, "the world's largest startup."

PPS -- The new cart, which will be coming along within a month hopefully, should help a lot, too.

CRM (customer relations manager) is built-in to the cart itself, instead of being outside of it like Kayako is now. Less "changing systems" is good.

Second, it integrates more closely with payment gateways which also reduces admin time when products are added later by customer service, or an item needs to be refunded. No going into 2 or 3 systems to do something that can occur in 1.

Third, the new cart allows for expanded customer notes, which is also a good thing for this type of project where many orders are customized.

Fourth, it's one of the few carts we've found where we can have the actual programmers of the cart help customize it for us in ways that make sense. Most other carts require good 3rd party help, which is fine, but that's an additional step and doesn't allow us to communicate our needs to the core programmers. The nearly "one step shop" that the new provider has ultimately makes it a better solution in the long term. I expect this cart to make more sense over the long haul.

Hey

I just wanted to reflect a "supposed" mix that works 90% of time in turning heads at social gatherings but without ODing

i noticed whenever multiple -pheromone families are used ,the risk for ODing is higher eg(AMMO+Instant Jerk+Turn Up The Heat+A314+Instant Openness+Instant Honesty+IS) will be OD even if the dose of each is smallest.

my question now : are there some pheromones which "cancels" others effects ? in instant line for now at least ?
Logically speaking , if some has synergistic effect ,other will have inhibitory effects as well.

Products:
AMMO (World Edition) x3
P83, approx 5-6 sprays from togo bottle (I filled a togo size bottle with 25mcgs/spray from a 30ml)
Turn Up The Heat x1.5 from togo
P79, approx 10mcgs
Meo- est, approx 100-150 mcgs (about 7 sprays from togo size bottle filled from 25mcgs/ spray 30ml bottle)

Let me start off by saying I have been using this mix minus the p79 with the same girl. We have met maybe 6 times and I have used this mix. This was in the span of maybe 3 weeks or more. During this I also was using p86 at approx 60mcgs. This mix has had some sort of effect on this girl. She can't seem to get enough of me. I also get many hits from others too. Well, not too long ago I ran out of p86 so I just cut that out and added the 5-6 sprays from the togo. We meet up 2 nights ago and she says that she was disappointed that she had to go because she wanted to have some fun..... Well, I meet up with her last night, and use the same mix with the added p79 and well I let you figure out how the night ended.

I will also say that I have been using a couple of subliminals from catlords store and I think that having used those, it has helped as well. This same girl that night she wanted to have some fun said that there was just something about me. So I'm sure that my mix along with whatever is going on with the subliminals is just a great combo to have. I love just waling in somewhere and seeing a girl to mess with and just going up to her to mess with her. I have had 0 negative responses as a result, using this mix minus the p79 and p86. So I have another fav mix. I need to get some more p86 and A314 though.

Self effects: I feel like a relaxed bad ass. I feel like I can just do and say anything, within reason of course.

So far I have noticed, not just from this experience that p79, used at a low dose, at least for me, is just a great enhancer for whatever you are wearing. I have not experienced the negatives of this enhancement yet and hope that I don't. So far, it has been nothing but positive. I will not use it if I am not feeling 100% though.

As promised im back with my results and holy shit is it a good one. so i get my AMMO, Turn Up The Heat, and Instant Openness, i sprayed AMMO and Instant Openness before i left my place to go pick up somethings. i get on the train here in NYC, and those that live here in the city the subways are pack at rush hour. so on the train i get a few hits from some girls that were in the train. i was leaning on the door, and she was facing away after a couple minutes she turned around and looked at me confused but got a little closer, she got off at the next stop.
now to the good stuff........

SO! the time has come its about 10:30pm and my friends arrive i spray 2 shots of Turn Up The Heat one spray each side of my neck. i already have on Instant Openness and AMMO so they blended in well.:D anyway as the night goes on my female friend leans in close to me to look at my computer screen im sitting in my PC leather chair so the screen is about 2feet away. she leans on me touch my neck and face sexually and what not and guys shes a 10:rolleyes:.

as the night goes on she whispers in my ear that she wanted a massage so i took her to my room and layed her down and began massaging her back her neck (with massage oil)she turns over and now shes laying on her back, so she grabs my neck and we start making out and kept touching my neck smelling it kissing my neck..so to wrap this up my night went VERY WELL....

so i can officially say the pheromones did help me out Turn Up The Heat Instant Openness and AMMO so good times folks, more adventures coming soon.:cool:

Hello all,

Just received my package in the mail. First time trying out this stuff. I am a shy guy in my mid 20's. Very awkward socially. I ordered Instant Honesty, Instant Openness, Instant Shine, and Instant Gentleman. I also received a free to go spray of Turn Up The Heat.


I usually spray 2 sprays of Instant Shine, 1 spray of the rest minus Turn Up The Heat. I spray them on the top of my shirt near the chest so half goes on the shirt and the other half on the neck and upper chest.

Is this an ok combo? Should I be spraying this exclusively on clothes or skin? How long should I wait before reapplying?

Thanks in advance. :) Great forum.:)

I just figured out why the shopping cart says no available instead of "none" available. :rolleyes: :D

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

Just bought the last bottle. :D

Wish I could have bought the last one or two of mx353 though.

Users, report your findings here.

I just got myself a UF test pack, right now.
I shall report my findings of each MX from the UF pack in this post...

Will it make me Gigolo/playgirl/Chip&DALE? Will it turn out like the Axe commercial? Will girls jump me?
We shall see ;)



P.S. UF = University of Florida? Some Gator fan made this? lol

I recently purchased p86 to be used as an amplifier of the effects of A314 and Turn Up The Heat (worn together and separately). In my order I also received a trial bottle of MX279. I am not familiar with this mix and was wondering if anyone had any information or experiences with this mix.

Also, does p86 have any effects on the wearer or others when worn by itself?

I’ve been here and there running around throughout the day(Wednesday, September 1, 2010). It’s been a good day and prior to calling it an evening, I’m going to drop by K-MART to purchase a bag of peanuts.

I noticed there’s plenty of shoppers all around as I walked through the door heading to the snap/chips aisle. As I was walking down it. "Oh My Goodness" coming from the opposite direction is a tall sexy lady. Is Robert Rodriguez shooting a script in this place.

There’s no doubt, if there's any living warm blooded man would've voted for her, by her height alone - as a model she passes with flying colors. She is an very imposing creature. She's has the look. I go into automatic drive. Trying to figure her age because you never really know these things these days.

There a male with her, whom looks to be a couple of years older than her. He gives the impression he's subservient to her. As she carry herself with higher value to him. I know you can’t always 'know for sure' just by looks only, but I felt a knowing discernment and awareness by her body language that she was superior to him. I would say she about 21. Perhaps the dude is trying to get close to her and in the initial phase(s) of getting to know her or perhaps their just friends.

Her attire put emphasis on her whole body. Imagine a model- 5’10ish in tennis shoes wearing extremely short ‘Daisy Dukes’ and she had on a with a white, tank-top.

Shootttt! I had to check her out, and once she inches of me I confidently look directly into hers eyes. I’m impressed. That's alright. Good. I just wanted to see her face and let her know this. Her facial appearance isn't on the tier of Zoe Saldana. But let me tell you this; this female has a youthful and refreshing radiance throughout her body. This is what feminine energy is about. I love the color of her skin, slightly a lighter shade like mind. A nice tan.

Her feminine presence was powerful as well as eye catching: I’m sorry, but for the brief moment ‘old-boy’ was non-relevant. As she passed me I turned my head and watch her walk. She has a bangin` body - like a Victoria Secrets model.

She then turns the corner and disappears and I resume searching for whatever it was I was looking for. I completely forgot what it was.J

In no time no time at all, she had returned within 10 seconds. This time without her shadow and is now standing with a couple of shelves from me. . And then she bends over with backside facing me. Please, why me? Very strange? She has her behind up like that. MI’m like, ”I don’t believe this.” This can’t be real. Check this out: Victoria's Secret Models Share 'Incredible' Day | PopEater.com view the video clip of Chanel Iman, Now imagine if you can seeing her returning and bending over showing her backside to you.

I bet old dude, was shock because he quickly returned that corner to be with her. I think she may be too much for that dude.


Conclusions: I realize that I just needed to take a break away from –pheromones. I’ve been really enjoying MX297 and MX301 alot this past month. I ve also been dealing with the fourth hottest summer on record as well as maintaining a very high optempo and really need to take a break because I was feeling more drained and not as mentally sharp as I would like. Our neurotransmitters are linked to our thoughts and emotions as well as our ability to learn and memory retention. I felt it was just time for a break.

The above situation is just one of many for what has been an awesome week. As for me I’ve learned that –pheromones have a place. A person that has confidence in themselves can go along way in life if they apply themselves. I will give credit in saying –pheromones have done just enough.

I’ve come ways to regaining some of my previous skill set’ and I had to push myself to gain that edge. I feel free, I know there’s no need to hide the amount of sexual attraction I feel toward women. This attraction is not only natural, but healthy, and beautiful. It’s freedom when you are comfortable with your attraction to women and thus displaying it and having a impulse to give love. I’m feel at home with myself.

Its been an interesting journey since I’ve been a member of this site.

MVKBUGATTI

Can someone shine some light on this topic? I apologize in advance if it has been asked before, but i did a search and didnt get anything specific. I was wondering what the best mix would be for using pheromones at the gym? Obviously for attracting girls at the gym but at the same time not trying to turn ppl off.

Hi so my friend was telling me about this stuff so I decided to look it up and came across this site. You guys seem to know alot about this stuff so does it actually work and what would be a good product to buy?

Initial observation: Numerous reports of certain pheromones causing effects ranging from tired/drowsy/lethargic feelings, crankiness and moodiness, and mild to severe headaches. Now before I started experimenting with pheromones I was very much into kickboxing and weight training. I've experienced these symptoms when I would overtrain. Overtraining depletes neurotransmitters and this effect on brain chemistry can result in any or all of the above listed effects. When I began taking supplements with neurotransmitter precursors and supporters my mood improved as well as my concentration and ability to focus and remain alert.

Question stemming from observation: If neurotransmitters are depleted by pheromone exposure (likely due to high doses activating parts of the brain that aren't usually stimulated so strongly) would higher levels of neurotransmitters in the brain enhance the positive effects of pheromones?


Hypothesis: I'm thinking the answer is yes. I think if two people are exposed to the same phero signature and one, due either to genetics, nutrition or whatever has higher levels of certain key neurotransmitters the one with the higher NT levels will be more responsive to the pheromones.
Think of pheromone exposure being akin to stepping on the gas pedal of a car...and one car simply has more fuel, that one will go a lot farther.

Experiment set up: Fortunately I work with a lot of younger females that work part time and are also students. This is helpful as they also tend to take summer classes. Now for this experiment I purchased a couple of bottles of an over the counter supplement containing a b vitamin complex, some key amino acids and certain neurotransmitter precursors like choline, acetyl-L-carnitine, DMAE and certain herbs. 5 of the girls were given a supply of the supplements and instructed to take them on a Monday/Wednesday/Friday protocol for four weeks and then report to me their take on if it helped with memory, focus or alertness.

The results: During the first week I noticed nothing until Friday. From Friday on, the results were about what I expected. I wore a combination of 3 drops of A314 and one spray each of Instant Shine and Heavy Ammo.
The mood of the girls taking the supplements improved noticeably. Now this could be either because of an increase in the effects of Shine or simply because having higher NT levels in general can improve mood so I disregard that part of the findings.

However, while I noted no real difference in suggested compliance between the supplement group and the rest of the office (if I made a work related request of anyone of either group, they were as likely to comply as the other), I did however note that the supplement group was more inclined to voluntary compliance than the non supplement takers. IE; they seemed substantially more inclined to offer help with work related projects or ask if I needed them to do anything for me.

I also noticed that the supplement takers were more inclined to make physical contact with me over the course of the day. On average the girls taking the supplements would initiate physical contact (nothing overtly sexual mind you) as much as 8 times per day above the non takers. This included bumping into me, touching my arm during conversations etc.
Eye contact seemed both more frequent and longer during conversations with the supplement group than with non takers. (I say "seemed" because keeping a count of minutes of conversation DURING a conversation at work is MUCH harder than keeping track of incidents of kino so no accurate comparison beyond my perception.)

I did notice however that normally all the girls in the office wear pants most of the time and skirts only occasionally that from the start of the third week on four of the five supplement takers had started wearing skirts exclusively. My take on this is that the increased response to the masculine dominant signal caused them to possibly feel more feminine and they dressed accordingly. No such change in the non supplement group.

In addition since taking the supplements, two of the five girls changed their hair color. One to straight blond, the other light brown with some highlights/streaks of blond. (some experts theorize that blond hair evolved as an attention getter for women to attract men...subsequently far more dark haired women lighten their color than the reverse) Both have initiated conversations with me about my thoughts on the new look. Approval seeking?

Conclusions: While hardly conclusive proof. (only several university conducted, double blind, placebo controlled experiments could do that) this does lead me to believe that higher pheromone levels in the brain of the signal recipient can diminish negative effects (I actually noticed little to no negatives from either group) and thus allow the positive effects to be magnified slightly, but still noticeably.

Now...the reason for this from an evolutionary perspective. Pheromones are communicative substances evolved to give others information about ourselves. But it's also BAIT, for potential mates and as any fisherman will tell you, what you catch depends not only on where you fish, but what bait you choose. Think about it, we release a phero signal to make ourselves more attractive, but who do we want to attract? Well obviously we even as "provider/protector" males want a female that will provide healthy offspring. High levels of key neurotransmitters are very indicative of health both from a hereditary standpoint (chronic depression is hereditary) and from a lifestyle/success standpoint (starvation/malnutrition can cause NT deficiencies). So my strong signal when received by a woman that's poorly fed, or has a family history of emotional problems due to NT balance might cause headaches, depression, lethargy, or fatigue. But my signal, when received by a female that is healthy and has good levels of key NT's indicating that she won't starve or become weak while carrying my offspring...is highly effective.


Again, I'm no PhD but thats the quasi/pseudo scientific experiment I conducted over the past month and the results I got from it.

A combo of IS, Instant Openness, and Instant Honesty or just using scent of eros by itself?

Also please write why you chose your answer.

That was hands down the best mx, ever, and I think that anyone who tested it would agree! Any chance that Androtics might bring in something similar to it some day?

I am new to the forum and I was wondering. Have there been any reports or studies on whether or not a woman such as a wife or girl friend under repeated exposeure can build a resistance or tolerance to your pheromones?

I tried instant gentle man and instant honesty everytime I put them on I get a headache same when instant shine was broken and spilled on me...

Could I be allergic? this is wierding me out