PheroTalk

PheroTalk

The World's Largest Pheromone Community

Get Real Pheromones directly from Androtics Pheromone Research at the SmartMones Pheromone Store

Questions about pheromones?
Get Fast, Friendly, No-Obligation Help from Real People at the Pheromone Hotline.
Call 1-800-671-6464 in the USA, or +01 425-786-2001 Internationally

Latest Threads ::.. Self effects Self effects Hey, everyone! 28/F Looking to Learn More Best Post Of The Week 30, July, 2017 Hello. Pheromones to help Me Build my Group of Business Allies. M/28 What would you think of this mix? What's the best basic mix/cologne thing for DIHLs? Alpha A134 Hello! Looking for Pheromones to Help Me Get Back In2 D dating Game. M/33/Manchester A314/m & STEALTH314 & STEALTH314YE


Go Back   PheroTalk > Discussion > Pheromone Theory

Register Invite Your Friends FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old November 9th, 2005, 03:14 AM   #21
MHarris Male
Administrator
  
 
MHarris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 9,040
Thanks: 10
Thanked 407 Times in 180 Posts
Reputation: 866
MHarris is a splendid one to behold MHarris is a splendid one to behold MHarris is a splendid one to behold MHarris is a splendid one to behold MHarris is a splendid one to behold MHarris is a splendid one to behold MHarris is a splendid one to behold
Default Re: Evolutionary psychology: -Rone men and -None Men

Quote:
Originally Posted by josef
even though i've been using pheromone products for about 5 years now, i've only just recently realized the experimental possibilities/potential.

i wanted to do a clothing test, so about three weeks ago i took a hooded sweatshirt that i wear to the gym and a bottle containing a mix of 5 parts none 1 part rone and tipped the bottle directly onto the sweatshirt, once at each shoulder. didn't use a finger to dab or a sprayer, just tipped the bottle directly onto the fabric and immediately removed.

none only gives off a "lab" smell to me, can't detect the cat piss smell that others get, but 3 weeks later i still can detect the none/rone mix.

if i tried wearing that sweatshirt on the same day i used something like NPA on my chest/ears/wrists etc i can only imagine an OD as a result.

this forum appears to still be in its infancy, but seems to have more relevant information per post than others i have seen.
Good observations.

You are subject to a "close OD " by applying pheromones directly to fibers.

That is liable to work against any increase in charisma you are receiving from the pheromones.

When people like you, they tend to be drawn closer to you. If you have a "close OD ", when they lean in, or get physically closer, they'll be exposed to the excessive amount sof pheromones and be repelled.

So you may find a pattern like this:
Attraction/Liking --> Physical signs of attraction/leaning in/standing close --> Repulsion

If you find people liking you, then suddenly not, or becoming confused, angered or experiencing other social heebeejeebees, that's why.

I don't smell much of a "cat piss odor" from -none myself, but it's extremely strong to me, nonetheless. I can almost feel it more than smell it. Too much, and I get a nearly instant headache, unless I'm used to it's effects. It's like ODing on MSG.
MHarris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 12th, 2006, 11:04 PM   #22
noblelady Female
Member
  
 
noblelady's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: USA
Age: 57
Posts: 278
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0
Reputation: 92
noblelady will become famous soon enough
Question Re: Evolutionary psychology: -Rone men and -None Men

Quote:
Originally Posted by MHarris View Post
In case anybody here doesn't know, Evolutionary Psychology PERFECTLY, and I mean PERFECTLY... outlines the Androsterone and none relationship.

They just don't use Androsterone and none by name. I doubt most evolutionary psychologists have ever heard of these two pheromones, despite the fact that I made the connection almost immediately... "that's a Androsterone man they're talking about!" and "that's a none man they're talking about!".

Evolutionary psychology really does describe two types of men, one who is basically higher in -Androsterone output, and the other higher in -none output. Of course, there's other pheromones that make a difference, but I'm talking about a predominant signature here, sort of the inverse of the 80/20 rule here.

You get a good text on evolutionary psychology and you'll learn far more about pheromones than you ever will reading the official pheromone researchers, who tend to be intellectually incestuous.

It's the cross application of ideas, theories and facts of other fields that leeds to genius. Isn't doesn't. This is as true in information and research as it is in genetic pools. Outbreeding rules, and inbreeding sucks

Outbreed!
Michael
Then there are the balances in "personal chemistry"
ex: I have a friend who is a single mom whose Dr found out she had more than the normal levels of testosterone; she had her levels tweaked and adjusted and all of a sudden had a revelatory experience of full force feminine: found herself weeping at "girly stuff" <--her words, not mine

She was astonished at the new perceptions:
"So...this is what all of you have been feeling all this time!! "
but she missed her tougher, more decisive, more masculine self, as she is still on her own w 4 kids 1 of whom is autistic.

Another friend, who a happily married father of 2 girls, works w computers, has estrogen levels that are way above normal, but is content there.

So...could some of the issues relate to the balance of sex hormones an individual has?
I suspect another (male) friend is really high on the estrogen balance---so what sort of 'nomes would be good to counterbalance the "meek" aspects ?
Messing with his hormone balances might make him miserable and a bit of a jerk, so this might be the answer for him.
noblelady is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 29th, 2007, 08:39 PM   #23
PheroQuirk Male
Explorer
  
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: London
Posts: 1,643
Thanks: 941
Thanked 304 Times in 180 Posts
Nominated 6 Times in 5 Posts
Nominated TOTW/F/M Award(s): 2
Reputation: 2713
PheroQuirk has a reputation beyond repute PheroQuirk has a reputation beyond repute PheroQuirk has a reputation beyond repute PheroQuirk has a reputation beyond repute PheroQuirk has a reputation beyond repute PheroQuirk has a reputation beyond repute PheroQuirk has a reputation beyond repute PheroQuirk has a reputation beyond repute PheroQuirk has a reputation beyond repute PheroQuirk has a reputation beyond repute PheroQuirk has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Evolutionary psychology: -Rone men and -None Men

bumpity bump
PheroQuirk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 17th, 2008, 06:41 PM   #24
renny Male
Smells Like Victory
  
 
renny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Canadian Tundra
Age: 55
Posts: 2,346
Thanks: 486
Thanked 405 Times in 262 Posts
Nominated 6 Times in 5 Posts
TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0
Reputation: 6538
renny has a reputation beyond repute renny has a reputation beyond repute renny has a reputation beyond repute renny has a reputation beyond repute renny has a reputation beyond repute renny has a reputation beyond repute renny has a reputation beyond repute renny has a reputation beyond repute renny has a reputation beyond repute renny has a reputation beyond repute renny has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Evolutionary psychology: -Rone men and -None Men

Quote:
Originally Posted by MHarris View Post
In case anybody here doesn't know, Evolutionary Psychology PERFECTLY, and I mean PERFECTLY... outlines the Androsterone and none relationship.

They just don't use Androsterone and none by name. I doubt most evolutionary psychologists have ever heard of these two pheromones, despite the fact that I made the connection almost immediately... "that's a Androsterone man they're talking about!" and "that's a none man they're talking about!".

Evolutionary psychology really does describe two types of men, one who is basically higher in -Androsterone output, and the other higher in -none output. Of course, there's other pheromones that make a difference, but I'm talking about a predominant signature here, sort of the inverse of the 80/20 rule here.



Outbreed!
Michael
I'm wondering, in the two and a half years since Michael's original post there has been a lot of testing of his assertion on this board. Do any of you long time testers have anything to add to this now? Is there a balance to be found between the the two; -rone and -none? Do any of the putatives show a midpoint of attraction between the two? After all, most of us surely fall at some middle place in the spectrum. Is the greatest attraction to be found at the extremes?
__________________
"...dont lose your heart. Use pheros in proper settings and lead your life with confidence that you are already one of those who have an edge over others."__Yasharma

"Victory is won not in miles but in inches. Win a little now, hold your ground, and later, win a little more."
– Louis L'Amour

renny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 17th, 2008, 07:13 PM   #25
Gone with the Wind Male
~~~ Pheromone Wraith ~~~
  
 
Gone with the Wind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,536
Thanks: 29
Thanked 364 Times in 294 Posts
Nominated 8 Times in 4 Posts
Nominated TOTW/F/M Award(s): 3
Reputation: 3626
Gone with the Wind has a reputation beyond repute Gone with the Wind has a reputation beyond repute Gone with the Wind has a reputation beyond repute Gone with the Wind has a reputation beyond repute Gone with the Wind has a reputation beyond repute Gone with the Wind has a reputation beyond repute Gone with the Wind has a reputation beyond repute Gone with the Wind has a reputation beyond repute Gone with the Wind has a reputation beyond repute Gone with the Wind has a reputation beyond repute Gone with the Wind has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Evolutionary psychology: -Rone men and -None Men

Quote:
Originally Posted by renny View Post
I'm wondering, in the two and a half years since Michael's original post there has been a lot of testing of his assertion on this board. Do any of you long time testers have anything to add to this now? Is there a balance to be found between the the two; -Androsterone and -none? Do any of the putatives show a midpoint of attraction between the two? After all, most of us surely fall at some middle place in the spectrum. Is the greatest attraction to be found at the extremes?
In this context see my 2007 post on http://www.pheromonetalk.com/pheromo...-use-4373.html .

I'm convinced that there are pheromonal markers for these two strategies, although it might not be quite as simple as rone vs. anone. However, I agree that those two pheormones seem to play major roles.

In my experience rone and anone give better results together than when used in isolation. MHarris obliquely stated this. The ratio can be varied continously from strong rone with a hint of anone ( a314 ) to strong anone with a hint of rone (no corresponding androtics product). The latter gives a more agressive aura, but there still appears to be substance behind it. It is useful some times in a business or negotiating context.

Investment in the experimone anone and rone products gives one the ability to play with custom rone/anone ratios. It's quite fun to explore, and most of the points on the spectrum have their own interest. My "basecoat" formulations utilize a 50/50 mix of rone/anone, and I can tweak the ratios one way or another from there by adding other pheromones.

Interestingly, a 50/50 mix strikes me as among the most "natural," and off-the-wall reactions are less likely than mixes unbalanced towards either end of the spectrum. However, it does communicate an understated power of sorts, and I find that mix to be more useful on a day-to-day basis than some of the more extreme ratios.
__________________
____________________________________________

Gone

Gate, gate, paragate, parasamgate. Bodhi svaha!
Gone with the Wind is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
Tom519 (August 10th, 2010)
Old September 16th, 2008, 11:30 PM   #26
Bella Female
BornABabe
  
 
Bella's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,937
Thanks: 657
Thanked 763 Times in 436 Posts
Nominated 16 Times in 10 Posts
Nominated TOTW/F/M Award(s): 2
Reputation: 8613
Bella has a reputation beyond repute Bella has a reputation beyond repute Bella has a reputation beyond repute Bella has a reputation beyond repute Bella has a reputation beyond repute Bella has a reputation beyond repute Bella has a reputation beyond repute Bella has a reputation beyond repute Bella has a reputation beyond repute Bella has a reputation beyond repute Bella has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Evolutionary psychology: -Rone men and -None Men

Bumpity bump bump!!! Hate for this to get buried...
__________________
"I've been too fucking busy, or visa versa." - Dorothy Parker

"Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway." - John Wayne

"Beware the handshake that hides the snake." - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aYcDe3voww
Bella is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 4th, 2009, 09:31 PM   #27
deeddy Male
Pheromone Experienced
  
 
deeddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Serbia
Age: 36
Posts: 140
Thanks: 7
Thanked 12 Times in 8 Posts
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0
Reputation: 161
deeddy has a spectacular aura about deeddy has a spectacular aura about
Default Re: Evolutionary psychology: -Rone men and -None Men

one bump here for the kick-ass thread. i really think this thread deserves to be a sticky one.
__________________
I am not an Arab, but according to Google my characters are supposed to mean 'Sexy'.

My collection: Ammunition, Instant Shine 4x, Instant Openness 2x, Instant Female Magic, Spaceland, Instant Gentleman, Instant Honesty, A314, MX292, CTTM2, P74, P79, P83, TAL, MX135, P86, MEO-EST, P93, TAF, TAK, P103, TAC, MX200
My journal is here: deeddy's journal
deeddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 6th, 2009, 11:24 PM   #28
djandarial Male
Pheromone Wizard
  
 
djandarial's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,374
Thanks: 107
Thanked 320 Times in 241 Posts
Nominated 21 Times in 8 Posts
Nominated TOTW/F/M Award(s): 3
Reputation: 1572
djandarial has a brilliant future djandarial has a brilliant future djandarial has a brilliant future djandarial has a brilliant future djandarial has a brilliant future djandarial has a brilliant future djandarial has a brilliant future djandarial has a brilliant future djandarial has a brilliant future djandarial has a brilliant future djandarial has a brilliant future
Default Re: Evolutionary psychology: -Rone men and -None Men

I agree with about 70% of this, more info needs to be placed here
__________________
C-Line: RawPower,IFM,EOW,Ammo,IS/B,MB,RPTP2,IH4X,IJ,A314
Exp-mone:A-nol,B-nol,TAA,TAC,TAF,TAH,TAL,TAK,Meo-EST
P-Series:P74,P79,P83,P91,P96
In Mail:
Wishlist:203,PSR0,P86
Gifts in red
Empty:MX275,MX272,MX292,P122,P86,MX281,CTTM2
JOURNAL: DjAndarials' Journal
------------------------------------------
Need to submit a ticket? Androtics Support Ticket System
djandarial is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18th, 2010, 08:01 AM   #29
Des` Male
Pheromone Experienced
  
 
Des`'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Newport NC
Age: 29
Posts: 235
Thanks: 1
Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0
Reputation: 30
Des` is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Evolutionary psychology: -Rone men and -None Men

hmm this is a very informative thread. so let me see if I am visualizing this well enough

none: Aggressive, wild, dominant, bad boy. E.g: Jersey shore gwettos, Dane cook in.. all of his movies (with some IS) basically an unpredictable bad boy, sounds good to me? I'm not really sure how that would be repulsive, but I could see how alone or in high doses (even 5-7.5mcg for me) it would keep people at bay or turn them of in the wrong setting

Erone: Peaceful, Fatherly, Provider, Mature, Serious, competent. E.g.. a father, A sage, uhh a nice guy!.. I cant really think of anything else lol and I can see how that would not be repulsive and I can also see how that wouldn't be attractive alone,

both have strong down sides for me alone, but together play off each other very well
__________________
Dauntless
Des` is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18th, 2010, 02:17 PM   #30
Razorpowell Male
In Love with Pheromones!
  
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 400
Thanks: 20
Thanked 99 Times in 77 Posts
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0
Reputation: 356
Razorpowell is just really nice Razorpowell is just really nice Razorpowell is just really nice Razorpowell is just really nice
Default Re: Evolutionary psychology: -Rone men and -None Men

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gone with the Wind View Post
In this context see my 2007 post on http://www.pheromonetalk.com/pheromo...-use-4373.html .

Interestingly, a 50/50 mix strikes me as among the most "natural," and off-the-wall reactions are less likely than mixes unbalanced towards either end of the spectrum. However, it does communicate an understated power of sorts, and I find that mix to be more useful on a day-to-day basis than some of the more extreme ratios.
Ie, ammo ?
Its 1:1 anone to erone
__________________
Comprehensive High-Schooler Journals
My Arsenal-
Consumers-
Instant Shine, Ammo (FF21), Turn up the heat, Instant Honesty (2x), A314, SoE
To gos- Instant Honesty (2x), AMMO (FF22), Turn up the heat, Instant Shine (2x)

Molecules-
Molecule F @10 mcgs per spray
p83 @10 mcgs per spray
p74 @10 mcgs per spray

A-1 diluted in oil @ 12.5 mcg per spray
A-1 diluted in oil @ 25 mcg per spray, 1 drop cops in 5 ml bottle
Razorpowell is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
1 Active User(s) Viewing This Topic (0 members and 1 guests):  

Tags
evolutionary , men , psychology , rone


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Men smelling women: Null effects of exposure to ovulatory sweat on men?s testosterone Jedi_Nights Lounge 3 November 4th, 2012 12:07 PM
Older men testing younger men's mixes: Add some 'none? Kiev MEN's Pheromone Advice, Tricks and Tips 4 December 27th, 2011 03:27 AM
Women on the pill and none vs rone men? PheroQuirk Pheromone Theory 1 October 14th, 2011 10:04 PM
A1, EST in straight men, gay men and women PheroQuirk Studies & Abstracts 10 October 11th, 2011 04:28 PM
TAH Men or TAL men, no short ones here. schell0385 WOMEN's Pheromone Advice, Tips and Tricks 9 September 3rd, 2008 08:43 AM

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +3. The time now is 01:39 PM.


©2004-2017 PheromoneTalk.com
(c) 2002-2015 Androtics Pheromone Research All Rights Reserved Internationally
Page generated in 0.24263 seconds with 19 queries