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Old October 28th, 2017, 04:21 PM   #1
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Default Ever find a woman who seems immune to pheromones?

Anyone find their partner seems immune to pheromones, or any effect is so subtle, that you wonder if it is an effect of the pheros or not?
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Old October 28th, 2017, 06:52 PM   #2
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Anyone find their partner seems immune to pheromones, or any effect is so subtle, that you wonder if it is an effect of the pheros or not?
Thought i did, tried every combo , environment etc possible and then finally found something she responds 2.
Also keep in mind that sometimes the signs are subtle
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Old October 28th, 2017, 11:24 PM   #3
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Default Re: Ever find a woman who seems immune to pheromones?

When you wear pheromones around people who already know you very well, sometimes they will subconsciously know that you seem a bit too different then normal, and so their brain may just ignore the pheromones if its coming off too different than how they already know you. I found this happens more with the status or alpha signature type changes and can require you to act the part of the signature in some cases also...

Androstenone blends such as Ammo / Tuth will also only work some of the time due to many factors, for example it works better during ovulation, and when a woman does not take birth control. Your baseline of testosterone if high will already have a good bit of androstenone , and adding too much will go over the tolerance of the person you are trying to effect.

Diffusion is sometimes the issue, try testing 2 hours after application to find your sweet spot dose, and then at 3 hours before changing doses or thinking its not working. Many times it can take awhile for the diffusion or effects to kick in, especially for oils. Once you find your sweet spot, you can then see if you get the same effects at less time after application.

You can also try things that lift moods, or give a youthful appearance such as IS or P86 , or things that increase chattiness such as IH / IO / CTTM , all of which do not usually have as many issues...

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Thought i did, tried every combo , environment etc possible and then finally found something she responds 2.
Also keep in mind that sometimes the signs are subtle
Mind sharing what that was please ?
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Anyone find their partner seems immune to pheromones, or any effect is so subtle, that you wonder if it is an effect of the pheros or not?
I found a girl that I wore tons of mixes around her for years and nothing seemed to do anything. Turns out she responds exceptionally well but to a very specific kind of signature. It's actually quite a trip to see.
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Default Re: Ever find a woman who seems immune to pheromones?

Post-menopausal women tend to have diminished responses to the andro pheromones.

Haven't tried the socials explicitly but I suspect pretty much the same dampened response.
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Default Re: Ever find a woman who seems immune to pheromones?

There is also the VNO theory, which states that some people just don't have the organ to detect pheromones.

Some people as well identify the smell of Androstenone with piss or sweat. It's different all around. I rarely run into the variations though.
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There is also the VNO theory, which states that some people just don't have the organ to detect pheromones.
I posted about the VNO at this link below. It seems to point to evidence that we just detect pheromones through our normal olfactory system and not the VNO. Only someone who has something extreme like nasal polyps that couldnt smell at all would be immune to then detect pheromones.
VNO is not involved in human processing of putative pheromones

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Some people as well identify the smell of Androstenone with piss or sweat. It's different all around. I rarely run into the variations though.
About 50% cant smell it at all. For the rest, there are two main genetic variants, an RT code where people had stronger response and found it more of a negative urinous/sweaty smell (but more neutral during ovulation for these people), and a WM variant that is a impaired reaction and describe it as more sweet and pleasant, floral type smell. For those who have a neg reaction, a pleasant cover scent or the 'stealth' cover should work better. In my experiences it still effects them in their body chemistry, they just also get a conscious dislike for the scent
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I thought that the Stealth scent was not enough to cover - enone ?
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I thought that the Stealth scent was not enough to cover -enone?
I am using both Ammo and Tuth in stealth currently, usually with a small amount of various cologne covers I have. Stealth adds diffusion enhancement as well as greatly lowering the raw pheromone scent which should help with those who are sensitive to the smell as mentioned. It doesnt interfere with the pheromone performance, it enhances it.

So if you happen to have other colognes you like to use, then Stealth is what I would recommend as the way to go. Neroli may not mix well with some of the colognes, even at say 6% but stealth would be fine for that. Stealth mixes fine with colognes.

If you dont have another cologne, then certainly Neroli or a AD cologne package will work. If you use stealth without any cover, then possibly with the enone products only like tuth or ammo , many hours later as the body breaks down the pheromones you may find a slight fruity like scent without any cover....

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