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Old February 13th, 2015, 08:31 PM   #11
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Default Re: Ethical Perspectives of Pheromones

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I don't wear mx297 around my room mate because for some weird reason it makes her feel insecure and she gets really down on herself. She can be like this with herself even without Being exposed to the mones so I feel like if she didn't have those tendencies she might not react that way to the spray. I know her very well so I recognize her patterns and tendencies. I feel like the sprays don't make people do things they don't (on some level) already have a tendency to do deep inside. ( only my observation from the limited experiences I've had experimenting with pheromones, not speaking about pheromones overall ) I still have a lot to learn.
If I wear mx297 I usually wash it off before I leave work to head home so my roommate doesn't crash from it.
Thats very interesting Kitty...most of my experience with MX297 is that it is a kind of "party" mone. Super consistant, life of the party kind of vibe. Your right, maybe her tendencies are getting in the way.

You are also dead right on that mones wont make people do anything that they dont already have a tendency for. Very similar to hypnotism. You cant make someone do something they would never even think about doing. That being said, we have all thought about things that maybe we haven't done before, (fantasies, etc) or maybe only tried it once "when I was drunk" or something. I believe (because I have seen it) that mones can loosen someone up to act out on these things. I have seen some crazy ass shit that can only be attributable to mones .

The down side is that it is not always a positive experience. Like someone telling you to your face what they really think of you, or just going off on you for seemingly little things. These things were already there, but they were just filtered by things like manners, conscience, embarrassment, insecurities, etc. Some mones will strip away these filters and then stuff bubbles up to the surface. Specifically IH , IO , P83 , P103 , and a few others. Others, like the sexuals, help bring forward the intimate feelings, the mood, etc that are conducive to physical attraction. Kind of like a form of chemical foreplay.
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I've often struggled with the question of whether it's ethical, but then I consider just what I'm actually dealing with. I mean, these synthetic mones are basically (for the most part) already a part of a bigger system. What I mean by that is, if you don't play with synthetic pheromones, you're still going to be playing in the pheromone game of life.

Your own body produces pheromones and I've seen first hand what a change it can make for somebody's day and the way they treat you that day, but just eating or not eating a certain diet and changing the frequency of showers. A man who walks freshly showered into a room will get different attention than a man who also showered freshly but rushed to the room hurried and broke a little sweat. This man will have a significantly stronger pherocloud.

When I consider these things, to me the definition of unethical becomes, as was mentioned earlier, when you have 'pheroguilt'.
I think I've had pheroguilt plenty of times.
Sometimes I ask myself, is it alright for me to walk around getting the best undivided attention from everyone I encounter.? Is it wrong for me to walk around having everybody (including my own boss and elders) show me the utmost respect? Or to cause nearly every woman I walk passed to assume the position and back into me or to stare at me as if I'm a piece of meat??

I think the biggest instance of pheroguilt I had was this one time I walked into the store and got Dihl from all the woman, specifically some woman while they were standing holding their sig others hand.. Now that gave me guilt but it's hard to explain whether it should merit guilt. I mean, did the cloud redirect their thoughts almost passed the point of no control or was it as if a handsome tall man walked by in an expensive suit? I mean I imagine the results would have been similar.

Now if you're simply putting on 20 sprays of TUTH to go around ghosting everybody and making everyone irritable then yes I would say that's unethical.
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I will totally admit there are times I have used pheromones unethically and feel really bad about it. What happened is there was a super fine older lady at church(she is 55) Hispanic and she is very overt. One time I threw Ammo /IS on as it is my basic goto combo and she showed up to church and she was kind of flirty and so the next week I really wanted to see the power of pheromones so I wore Jdubs special mix of TUTH / TAC and some Hedione and some Ylang oil to. Oh man it hit her hard and she was all over me and following me everywhere and wife was really pissed.

I feel really bad about that still till this day. I really wanted to see the power of the mones , but a small part of me had very devious intentions to. So I think for me what is key here is the intentions behind the mones really. I test quite a bit and sometimes I find molecules to turn women on, but I did not have any intentions of that like the report of P77 in my journal.

I see it no different than buying nice jeans or a shirt or styling your hair or anything like that only the intentions behind what your goals are really. I mean I wore TUTH to church which was totally stupid and to this day I still apologize to my wife over what happened as she know about my pheromone hobby and supports it.

I go out a lot preaching and I use A314 / P96 /IS as my main combo and have noticed a big difference with how receptive people are with and without the combo and I do not feel one bit bad about it. I don`t feel bad because I want to connect with people and I am not out to beat people up over religious nonsense, but instead to connect and show love and that people do care in a dark world we live in, and my intentions are right and good.

So the key is again Intentions Of Use of the pheromones.

Just my 2 cents and I welcome all feedback and opinions.
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I totally agree with justintime.

I think it's more like a tool that could be either used for good or bad.
What really convinces me is the fact that the tool is based on something already natural in nature and the same goes for other substances like essential oils, hedione, etc.
It's all intentions.

You know to me it doesn't sound like a bad thing to use for witnessing perhaps. The effect doesn't stay for good, once your presence is gone there is no longer a pheroinfluence so it's really just as you said, a means to be more friendly and receptive.

I've also worm mones at church before, and had exactly what you're talking about. Women stare at me and follow me around. Since then I stopped wearing mones at church. Interestingly most of the same women still seem attracted but no more staring and following around. However I do catch many glances from the ladies still, but I attribute that to my improved diet..
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