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Old March 3rd, 2011, 05:58 AM   #101
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Default Re: Does refraining from masturbation increase natural pheromone production?

Jabez,
Probably because an older myth that having sex before a match/competition would decrease energy and decrease your much needed fluids.
There was a study somewhere that disproved this, and I think they even did a TV show segment on it somewhere.
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Old March 3rd, 2011, 06:34 AM   #102
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Default Re: Does refraining from masturbation increase natural pheromone production?

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Well then how come professional boxers do not have sex in the weeks leading up to matches?
Here's a link to an article from National Geographic regarding this issue.
Sex and Sports: Should Athletes Abstain Before Big Events?

The article starts with this quote :
Jannini has found that sex in fact stimulates the production of testosterone, thus boosting aggression.
"After three months without sex, which is not so uncommon for some athletes, testosterone dramatically drops to levels close to children's levels," he said. "Do you think this may be useful for a boxer?"
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Old March 3rd, 2011, 02:17 PM   #103
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IDC what Ever. IK I am stronger when I dont. Its my body IK.
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Old April 2nd, 2011, 03:58 PM   #104
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Default Re: Does refraining from masturbation increase natural pheromone production?

hey, didnt forget about you bro. ive been two weeks clean now


im not gonna masturbate. only sex.



i definitely do feel different. i'm definitely horny but it's a more focused horny (i now use this to game chicks and it helps me to concentrate on a given task) instead of ARRRRGGGG IM HORNY MUST MASTURBATE.


now, i just allow my horniness to wash over me and it gives me a hige boost in energy.


there was a hippy kid i used to know who abstained from sex. what he did was whenever he got hard or horny, he would close his eyes and literally sniff the horniness to his crown chakra in order for him to manifest via law of attraction. sounds crazy but sex energy is a primal energy that can be used for so many things. it has the power to create and heal if you focus it correctly.



practicing self-control is in itself a very good practice!!! if you can discipline yourself with this, you can discipline yourself with anything.



I found this on the net:



"I’ve been an avid fan of masturbation for most of my post-pubescent life. Any guy that says he is not a fan is a big liar. One thing though that I’ve noticed is that jerking off is an invitation to suffer from the many woes of approach anxiety.



How so, oh doclove you ask? It’s really simple, if you have it in your mind that you can just go home and rub-one-out you teach yourself that approaching isn’t necessary. It’s really that simple.


Don’t believe me, here’s a test you can do all on your own. Stop whacking the willy for a good solid couple of weeks and see what happens. All of a sudden you will get braver and start approaching. Yeah its that simple. Want to improve your life as a PUA , stop jerking off."
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hey, didnt forget about you bro. ive been two weeks clean now


im not gonna masturbate. only sex.



i definitely do feel different. i'm definitely horny but it's a more focused horny (i now use this to game chicks and it helps me to concentrate on a given task) instead of ARRRRGGGG IM HORNY MUST MASTURBATE.


now, i just allow my horniness to wash over me and it gives me a hige boost in energy.


there was a hippy kid i used to know who abstained from sex. what he did was whenever he got hard or horny, he would close his eyes and literally sniff the horniness to his crown chakra in order for him to manifest via law of attraction. sounds crazy but sex energy is a primal energy that can be used for so many things. it has the power to create and heal if you focus it correctly.



practicing self-control is in itself a very good practice!!! if you can discipline yourself with this, you can discipline yourself with anything.



I found this on the net:



"I’ve been an avid fan of masturbation for most of my post-pubescent life. Any guy that says he is not a fan is a big liar. One thing though that I’ve noticed is that jerking off is an invitation to suffer from the many woes of approach anxiety.



How so, oh doclove you ask? It’s really simple, if you have it in your mind that you can just go home and rub-one-out you teach yourself that approaching isn’t necessary. It’s really that simple.


Don’t believe me, here’s a test you can do all on your own. Stop whacking the willy for a good solid couple of weeks and see what happens. All of a sudden you will get braver and start approaching. Yeah its that simple. Want to improve your life as a PUA , stop jerking off."

Ironically enough, guys, Australian Medical Studies have shown conclusively that ejaculation at least once per day, actually prevents prostrate cancer. So, if you're not getting laid . . .
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Old October 26th, 2011, 12:46 PM   #106
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Talking Re: Does refraining from masturbation increase natural pheromone production?

While I haven't had a chance to look at every post here since there's 11 pages I thought I'd add my two cents on the topic as male hormonal and sexual health is a major area of study for me.

Ejaculating (whether during sex or from masturbating) causes an immediate drop in testosterone levels. This is largely why it takes most post pubescent men a bit of time before they have enough desire to have sex or masturbate again. According to these two studies below, it takes 1-2 weeks after an ejaculation for testosterone levels to reach a biological peak. This peak level is rarely experienced by most men because they're so eager to bust a nut wether it's with someone else or by their own hand:

A research on the relationship b... [J Zhejiang Univ Sci. 2003 Mar-Apr] - PubMed - NCBI

Endocrine response to masturbation-induced orga... [World J Urol. 2001] - PubMed - NCBI

As we know, high testosterone levels means higher androstenone (and other pheromones) levels coming out of our pores, sweat and urine. So this explains the way that masturbation depletes the likelihood of attracting a sexual partner. Those T. levels drop after regular sex too, but you have the added benefit of having a woman's copulins scent all over you which if we never bathed, would make other women more attracted to you and might perhaps make up for the deficit of androstenone .

Personally I practice ancient taoist sexual kung fu exercises where I with hold ejaculating with either a partner or myself. That doesn't mean I never do (some people get so skilled at it that they'll go 10+ years without ejaculating and experience amazing health benefits as a result) but that I have full conscious control over when and where I do have that release. This isn't for everyone of course but it can certainly be beneficial to go longer periods of time in between ejaculations as this prevents chronically low testosterone levels.

In your youth and young adulthood you'll have raging T. levels anyways but those aren't unlimited. By preserving this special hormone and literally "storing it up" you can prevent andropause and other male problems later on it life.

Also if you develop good control in bed, it always feels good when a woman is amazed at how she's had 3+ orgasms and you have yet to cum yet

On the topic of prostate health, witholding ejaculation can actually be really good for prostate health. The Australian study in the previous post does not control the factors of what's occurring. People read a study (as wellas those who performed the study) and don't think of what controls could be lacking. We have no idea if the sexual arousal once a day, the ejaculation itself once a day or te orgasm once a day is creating the healthy benefits for the prostate. We know that all three of those things are separate events. They can all be experienced without the others too.

If you with-hold ejaculating but still engage in sex and also self-pleasure (the word masturbate actually means "to defile oneself"... I think we've moved beyond that kind of religious guilt in our society) you can still have orgasms and arousal (which brings blood to the postate which helps remove stagnant blood and dead cells which can contribute to prostate problems) and the production of pre cum which washes out the vas deferens. The ejaculate itself comes from the testicles (sperm) and the seminal vessicles (fluid which mixes with the sperm), not the prostate.

Prostate cancer is also one of the easiest to prevent. Don't eat processed foods, eat plenty of organic antioxidant rich foods, do kegels regularly and keep your free testosterone levels high (while not letting DHT get out of control).
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It should be noted that high testosterone levels are also preventative to cardiovascular disease, 99% of cancers, diabetes, Alzheimer's and just about every other chronic disease.

If you engage in semen retention for any period of time longer than perhaps 2 weeks, it's highly suggested you look at the proper qi-gong exercises to prevent stagnation. If you ever experience pain (blue balls) it's best to ejaculate as the pain increases with time (it'll reach a peak and then go away but it make even walking difficult).

This only happens again with the stagnation and improper techniques used. I suggest looking into the work of Mantak Chia or Daniel P. Reid for more information on the practice.
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Old January 10th, 2012, 09:33 PM   #108
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Here goes my first post, and it's strange that it's very closely related to what Komodo Dragon just talked about. It's the Taoist way of "ejaculating up the spine".

What you do is, you masturbate or have sex and in the split second before you feel that you are going to ejaculate, you tense the muscles in your genital and anal regions. Imagine you are "sucking" the semen back into your body as opposed to letting it come out.

What this does is, it maximizes your pheromone output after about five weeks, in my experience. You will be approached by women in a leauge you never dreamed possible.

One of best things about this technique is it prevents you from having wet dreams somehow, which would normally happen if you were simply just abstaining from masturbation all together. The negative of a wet dream would be that you would be sent back to day one.

I'm guessing that women can sense, through pheromones, that you have a full store of semen awaiting for them. This technique allows you to still experience sex, masturbation, and orgasm, but prevents you from ejaculating, and from having wet dreams, and thus allows you to build up semen stores to ideal levels for attraction.
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Since pheromones are derived from testosterone, the answer is absolutely. The more testosterone you have, the more androstonone you will produce as a by_product, for instance. When you mastubate, you greatly diminish your testosterone levels, and therefore you pheromone production will be affected as well.
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Since pheromones are derived from testosterone, the answer is absolutely. The more testosterone you have, the more androstonone you will produce as a by_product, for instance. When you mastubate, you greatly diminish your testosterone levels, and therefore you pheromone production will be affected as well.
Only a handful of pheromones are derived from testosterone so your arone levels may go down but not for all pheromones. In fact ejaculation may produce a whole different set of signalers much like copulins do.

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