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Old January 27th, 2018, 02:17 PM   #1
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Default A couple comments

Over the years I have made some comments, sometimes forcefully, more often of late privately by email.

I saw an explosion of products and vendors come on the market.

Seeing milligrams of molecule sold for $30, I didn't think Androtics model from last decade could work.

I do think the current situation is fixable. I assume the freebie togo bottles were mass produced? Not custom labs? Okay. The sprayer bottles are adequate if you wrap the cap top with tape to seal it for shipping.

I suggested years ago mass producing all the single molecules in neroli and stealth only. 5 mcg . No options. That leaves you with about 100 sku's and no custom labs. Given a choice between 5 mcg of p74 or nothing, people will take a 5 micro togo spray.

I learned how to make p74 work for me at small doses. The research patents from 20 years ago say it should work.

Most people would pay $20 for a small togo if the alternative is nothing. Myself I would order maybe 5 togo's per year at $100. Under that business model it should be break-even or perhaps profitable. I use tiny amounts of TAH . One bottle would give me over 200 doses.

Maybe the answer to the Lab problem is that you don't need a lab. Or maybe it just isn't possible to custom-make 70K sku's.

There a semi-rural areas usually within 2 hours of colleges, interstates and airports. All those areas where Obama won but Clinton lost. Those places. Places with industrial parks. Call the local college and ask for chemistry interns and IT interns who know e-comm software.

The internet runs on linux and unix, and they are free.

There are alternatives to the leaky togo sprays. I have tested them and have not carried a togo in my pocket for 3 years. I'd rather use an empty A314 bottle than a togo spray.

The economy is booming with plenty of customers. You are sitting on top of $1,000,000 worth of intellectual property knowledge. The boyfriend spray other people sell was built on this board with your molecules. People will pay about $50 for a product that gets results. They shop on price often with no care where the molecules come from. For $100 it had better be miraculous or it is not happening.

Good luck and thanks.
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Default Re: A couple comments

The retail cost (no discount) is about $30 for a 500 microgram putative . I don't think that has changed in over 6 years.

I think that would need to be $45 just to break even.
I don't think making every putative as a custom order
is going to work.

They don't have the staff, the costs are too high, the operation is (Brian suggests) running at a loss, it takes I guess 1-2 years to apprentice someone as a formulator, the people trained as lab techs can get work as techs elsewhere at excellent wages.

I think they can continue to sell research molecules. Not to the general public, not as a charity, not to people who don't provide feedback, not at a loss, not with each leaky spray as made-to-order, not with 10,000 sku's in the cart. Not for less than $30 per 500 micrograms. Not with 300 options per molecule. They couldn't do it in 2010, can't do it now, won't do it in 2020.

Coding DHEA exclusively as a putative outlived its uselfullness 5 years ago.

One of the primary odors in sweat is E3M2H. About 100 times more powerful than androstenone if I recall. Stucture similar to copulins. Enone has little to do with body odor.

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