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Old January 24th, 2010, 05:00 AM   #11
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1986: Michael Whalen discovers copulins and classifies them as a pheromone.

There are numerous studies that now claim copulins are not a pheromone at all
Yes, that is true, but the studies conducted earlier on were either ambiguous in it's definition, or did in-fact state they were pheromones, so you can understand the confusion. (it's quite difficult to find the studies which note the difference between copulins and pheromones. I know they're out there somewhere, if anyone knows were to find them please let me know)

States copulins as pheromones -

Michael RP, Bonsall RW, Kutner M. Volatile fatty acids, "copulins", in human vaginal secretions. Psychoneuroendocrinology. 1975;1(2):153–163.

Michael, R.P., Bonsall, R.W. and Warner, P., 1974. Human vaginal secretions: volatile fatty acid content. Science 186, pp. 1217–1219.

Ambiguous classification -

Michael RP, Keverne EB, Bonsal RW (1971) Pheromones: Isolation of male sex attractants from a female primate. Science, 172:964-96631.

Curtis RF, Ballantine JA, Keverne EB, Bonsall RW, Michael RP (1971) Identification of primate sexual pheromones and the properties of synthetic attractants. Nature, 232:396-398.

Indicated that the “C2-C5 aliphatic acids present in the vaginal secretions of estrogen-primed female rhesus monkeys were reported to act as releaser-type pheromones”. These compounds were tagged with the label of “Copulins”.

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1997: Copulins proven to not affect a male's perception of a female's attractiveness.

I certainly can see why she took this cite down especially since this would disprove her theory
Hmmm, your right, it's completely contradictory to typical pheromone-esque interactions (which she does not discuss), and useless to her intravenous administration theory; however, it could easily be a typo. Because, in 1997 a study did in fact pronounce that there “is some evidence that men show an olfactory sexual response to copulins”

Grammer K, Jutte A, 1997. The war of odours: importance of pheromones for human reproduction. Gynaekol-Geburtshilflihe Rundsch 37: 150-153.

Supporting the unintended error theory, but your right, who really knows (not being sarcastic, by the way). She either meant to show that copulins have psychological effects, in general, on the male sex, before going into the intravenous/subcutaneous administration citations, but made a mistake; or not, and she didn't know what she was talking about.

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2001 Feb: Dr. Clancy D. McKenzie, Professor of Integrative Medicine at Capital University of Integrative Medicine in Washington DC, proves in his own independent study that copulins take over the male hypothalamus.

The hypothalamus is not mind control at all. It's actually a far cry, considering it is responsible for body temp, thirst and hunger and the
circadian rhythm. There are no studies that substantiate the hypothalamus as the "thinking" control of the brain.

"The hypothalamus regulates motivated behavior",

“the CNS has engineered two regulatory processes fast-acting, fast-duration chemical events via neurotransmitters, and slow-acting, long-duration effects via hormones. The hypothalamus controls both processes”

Clinical Neuroscience By Kelly Lambert Craig H. Kinsley

"Thus, the hypothalamus appeared to coordinate and sequence motivated responses, as well as their correlated autonomic responses. Their circuitry is now know to descend from the hypothalamus to the midbrain and to the integrative centers in the brain stem and spinal cord."

Fundamental neuroscience, By Larry R. Squire

"The hypothalamus is also connected with higher parts of the central nevous system, however, including the cerebral cortex and the amygdala."

"...the hypothalamus is a superior center for the coordination of emotional reactions."

"It thus appears that the activity of the hypothalamus is significant not only for emotional reactions but also for the emotions themselves.

Conceivably, this is mediated by feedback connections from the hypothalamus to the limbic structures and the cerebral cortex-structures that are necessary for the experience of emotions (as distinct from emotional reactions)"

The central nervous system: structure and function, By Per Brodal

"The hypothalamus links the endocrine and nervous systems. It has connections with the cerebral cortex, thalamus, retina, posterior part of the pituitary gland and the sympathetic nervous system."

Science for the health team, By Barry G. Hinwood

"Actions require motivation. Even covert attention shifts depend on emotional interests of the organism; subcortical structures such as the amygdala, hippocampus and the hypothalamus influence voluntary attention mechanisms in the anterior cingulate. Actions imagined but not performed are both activated and inhibited in the frontal lobes and motor cortex; inhibition, controlled in large part by the hypothalamus, allows action images to be consciously experienced (Jeannerod 1998) along with the emotional values associated with the actions."

Proceedings of the Twenty-second Annual Conference of the Cognitive Science Society, By Lila R. Gleitman, Aravind K. Joshi

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In actuality, to delve a bit deeper, none of those are anything but a time line of alleged events and not cites at all. I'd like to see what happens if anyone were to turn in a thesis based on those types of cites. I could easily predict ridicule and failure.
True, it was not formatted in a professional way, but that does not invalidate the theory, now does it?


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The burden of proof lies with anyone who affirms her theory, not me. So by your very standards it is harder to be objective and not believe because you want to believe. Due the research and find out and then post your research, but until such time it is a baseless position without merit.
Err, no, I'm stating that based on science, it is possible, I don't believe it is, or isn't truth. I operate in terms of theory, not truth, because prejudice belief is nonsense to me, everything is in a state of flux (to coin a phrase) until proven otherwise, and even then, it's still just a theory (pssst, which is still in flux)!

The fact that subjective burden of a possible disconcerting finding got in the way of the research, does not mean I "want to believe" it, just that I see all it's possible outcomes.

I'll go ahead and make the calls then, have put it off for awhile, and I saved everything, because I always intended to complete it.

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Yes, that is true, but the studies conducted earlier on were either ambiguous in it's definition, or did in-fact state they were pheromones, so you can understand the confusion. (it's quite difficult to find the studies which note the difference between copulins and pheromones. I know they're out there somewhere, if anyone knows were to find them please let me know)

States copulins as pheromones -

Michael RP, Bonsall RW, Kutner M. Volatile fatty acids, "copulins", in human vaginal secretions. Psychoneuroendocrinology. 1975;1(2):153–163.

Michael, R.P., Bonsall, R.W. and Warner, P., 1974. Human vaginal secretions: volatile fatty acid content. Science 186, pp. 1217–1219.

Ambiguous classification -

Michael RP, Keverne EB, Bonsal RW (1971) Pheromones: Isolation of male sex attractants from a female primate. Science, 172:964-96631.

Curtis RF, Ballantine JA, Keverne EB, Bonsall RW, Michael RP (1971) Identification of primate sexual pheromones and the properties of synthetic attractants. Nature, 232:396-398.

Indicated that the “C2-C5 aliphatic acids present in the vaginal secretions of estrogen-primed female rhesus monkeys were reported to act as releaser-type pheromones”. These compounds were tagged with the label of “Copulins”.



Hmmm, your right, it's completely contradictory to typical pheromone-esque interactions (which she does not discuss), and useless to her intravenous administration theory; however, it could easily be a typo. Because, in 1997 a study did in fact pronounce that there “is some evidence that men show an olfactory sexual response to copulins”

Grammer K, Jutte A, 1997. The war of odours: importance of pheromones for human reproduction. Gynaekol-Geburtshilflihe Rundsch 37: 150-153.

Supporting the unintended error theory, but your right, who really knows (not being sarcastic, by the way). She either meant to show that copulins have psychological effects, in general, on the male sex, before going into the intravenous/subcutaneous administration citations, but made a mistake; or not, and she didn't know what she was talking about.




"The hypothalamus regulates motivated behavior",

“the CNS has engineered two regulatory processes fast-acting, fast-duration chemical events via neurotransmitters, and slow-acting, long-duration effects via hormones. The hypothalamus controls both processes”

Clinical Neuroscience By Kelly Lambert Craig H. Kinsley

"Thus, the hypothalamus appeared to coordinate and sequence motivated responses, as well as their correlated autonomic responses. Their circuitry is now know to descend from the hypothalamus to the midbrain and to the integrative centers in the brain stem and spinal cord."

Fundamental neuroscience, By Larry R. Squire

"The hypothalamus is also connected with higher parts of the central nevous system, however, including the cerebral cortex and the amygdala."

"...the hypothalamus is a superior center for the coordination of emotional reactions."

"It thus appears that the activity of the hypothalamus is significant not only for emotional reactions but also for the emotions themselves.

Conceivably, this is mediated by feedback connections from the hypothalamus to the limbic structures and the cerebral cortex-structures that are necessary for the experience of emotions (as distinct from emotional reactions)"

The central nervous system: structure and function, By Per Brodal

"The hypothalamus links the endocrine and nervous systems. It has connections with the cerebral cortex, thalamus, retina, posterior part of the pituitary gland and the sympathetic nervous system."

Science for the health team, By Barry G. Hinwood

"Actions require motivation. Even covert attention shifts depend on emotional interests of the organism; subcortical structures such as the amygdala, hippocampus and the hypothalamus influence voluntary attention mechanisms in the anterior cingulate. Actions imagined but not performed are both activated and inhibited in the frontal lobes and motor cortex; inhibition, controlled in large part by the hypothalamus, allows action images to be consciously experienced (Jeannerod 1998) along with the emotional values associated with the actions."

Proceedings of the Twenty-second Annual Conference of the Cognitive Science Society, By Lila R. Gleitman, Aravind K. Joshi



True, it was not formatted in a professional way, but that does not invalidate the theory, now does it?




Err, no, I'm stating that based on science, it is possible, I don't believe it is, or isn't truth. I operate in terms of theory, not truth, because prejudice belief is nonsense to me, everything is in a state of flux (to coin a phrase) until proven otherwise, and even then, it's still just a theory (pssst, which is still in flux)!

The fact that subjective burden of a possible disconcerting finding got in the way of the research, does not mean I "want to believe" it, just that I see all it's possible outcomes.

I'll go ahead and make the calls then, have put it off for awhile, and I saved everything, because I always intended to complete it.

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Did you ever make the phone call to the people you had listed?
Oh man, this is a blast from the past. This discussion was from like seven years ago now and was just a teenager during the research project. I'm surprised to see this thread again, as I haven't done much research in pheromone studies since I was writing a paper to correct my psychology teacher in the existence of documented human pheromones in college, but I digress.

To answer your question, I never did end up making those calls. Given the subject matter it was a rather tumultuous possible outcome, intellectually speaking, and was fine leaving it as an nonvalidated but potential theory... that plus teenage social anxiety
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Okay then, sorry to revive the dead thread again, but it was sort of bugging me that I only had my memory to go off when last posting. I looked around and found the old research and will post what I have done. Dead links have been revived when possible, and if not another current source was found. Contact information has been updated for 2017.
For further discussion on this topic for background in pherotalk please see the thread: http://www.pheromonetalk.com/effect-copulins-woah-33110.html

First off, lets review:
  • The claims of copulin research from 'Sandra Morrishaun, PhD, (Professor of Hormonology and Human Behavior, University of Chicago)' as claimed on her website now closed, but the link revived with the Internet Archive. "http://web.archive.org/web/20040606130253/www.copulins.freeservers.com/about.html"
  • The claimed research that was done, with no direct references.
    Jun 6, 2014
    "Chronology of Copulin Research and Events
    1986: Michael Whalen discovers copulins and classifies them as a pheromone.

    1991: First synthetic copulin produced by Love Fragrances as a male attractant.

    1997: Copulins proven to not affect a male's perception of a female's attractiveness.

    1999: Groundbreaking research by Dr. Luis Monti-Bloch of the University of Utah demonstrates pseudo-psychological properties of copulins.

    2000: Funding for copulin study denied simultaneously at the Universities of Utah, Colorado and Chicago.

    2001 Feb: Dr. Clancy D. McKenzie, Professor of Integrative Medicine at Capital University of Integrative Medicine in Washington DC, proves in his own independent study that copulins take over the male hypothalamus.

    2001 Mar: Neeraja Sankaran publishes Dr. McKenzie's findings in the magazine The Scientist.

    2001 May: C. Dominique Toran-Allerand, Columbia University's Center for Reproductive Sciences in New York, develops model for how copulins control the male hypothalamus.

    2002 Jan: Milos Novotny, Professor of Chemistry and director of the Institute for Pheromone Research at Indiana University, opens new branch of study in copulins.

    2002 April: Dr. Novotny fired from Indiana University for "breach of protocol", in that his research was considered a liability (two male subjects attempted to sue the university after the study).

    2001 July: Copulin studies at Indiana University are removed from curriculum.

    Present: At present, no universities have studies in copulins despite the sudden interest in them after Dr. Monti-Bloch's discoveries. I will leave it to you to decide why this has happened....
    "

    http://web.archive.org/web/20040606150136/www.copulins.freeservers.com/whats_new.html

The systematic review of aforementioned claims -

"1999: Groundbreaking research by Dr. Louis Monti-Bloch of the University of Utah demonstrates pseudo-psychological properties of copulins."

Contact Research.....
  • "Pherin now plans to develop sprays to treat anxiety disorders, manage body weight, decrease depression and sleep disorders, improve cognitive performance, treat prostate cancer and enhance the libido-all through the out-of-order vomeronasal organ. The vice president of the company, Louis Monti-Bloch, has conducted a number of wild-card studies that counter the prevailing notion that the VNO doesn't work. In the late nineties, he claimed to show nerve pathways that were excited by pheromones routed from the VNO. He supposedly found electrical stimulation in human vomeronasal receptors in the presence of certain volatile chemicals. His baffling results were never confirmed or reproduced by other scientists"

    Siri Lefren Steiner. "The Natural History of a Lost Sense" B.A. Integrative Biology. University of California at Berkeley, 2001
    https://docgo.org/siri-steiner-the-natural-history-of-a-lost-sense
  • "Louis Monti-Bloch, of the University of Utah and Pherin, and colleagues reported that when certain vomeropherins are puffed onto the..."
    Ben-Ari, Elia T. "Pheromones: What's in a Name" BioScience, vol. 48, no. 7, 1998, pp. 505?511. JSTOR, JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/1313311.
  • "Physiologist Louis Monti-Bloch, now at Pherin Pharmaceuticals in Mountain View, California, and his colleagues have documented the location of the vomeronasal organ's outlet in humans: a tiny pit just a couple of centimeters up the inner wall of the nostril." "Physical Chemistry" (Discover, July 2003) by Karen Wright http://m.discovermagazine.com/2003/jul/featchem

These sources confirm that Dr. Louis Monti-Bloch is a pheromone researcher, Physiologist, and a member of Pherin Pharmaceuticals, specifically the Executive Vice-President and Secretary.

Contacting source required to confirm.
Questions
  • "In 1999, did what was your affiliation with the University of Utah?"
  • "Have you every conducted any research on copulins?"
  • "If so, what did those studies demonstrate? Was there any psychological properties observed?"
  • "And is the research published, if so where?"

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"2001 Feb: Dr. Clancy D. McKenzie, Professor of Integrative Medicine at Capital University of Integrative Medicine in Washington DC, proves in his own independent study that copulins take over the male hypothalamus."


Contact Research.....

  • "Professor and Department Chair Emeritus of Integrative Psychiatry at Capital University of Integrative Medicine in Washington, DC, with a teaching focus on developmental aspects of neurobiological disorders, and the integration of psychological and biological factors as they pertain to serious mental and emotional disorders...

    In 2001, Temple University Libraries, Paley Library Special Collections and University Archives accepted Dr. McKenzie?s collection of papers, books, letters, audio tapes, videos, and CDs, along with other personal materials of Dr. O. Spurgeon English, for the Conwellana-Templana Collection. ...

    Dr. McKenzie graduated from the University of Michigan School of Medicine in 1962. For the next several years, he focused his attention on studies of the human mind and the complex realm of mental illness, including five years of training in adult psychoanalysis and two years in child psychoanalysis at the Menninger School of Psychiatry and the Philadelphia Psychoanalytic Institute. His dedication to study and scholarship in psychiatry and neurology, and special training in trauma desensitization, led to his receiving the AMA Physician?s Recognition Award with Special Commendation for Self-directed Training. ...
    Contact: [email protected]"

    http://www.alternativeapa.com/about-us/

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"2001 Mar: Neeraja Sankaran publishes Dr. McKenzie's findings in the magazine The Scientist."


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While the document in question could not be located in The Scientist magazine archive, it is known that Neeraja Sankaran did in fact write for the magazine on several occasions from 1994-1995 as the Assistant Editor [1], and possibly as a freelance writer after her work as the Assistant Editor [2,3]. Even though she is listed as working at The Scientist starting 1994, she did write an article in 1993 for the magazine on December 13, Vol:7 [4]. This however, is most likely related to an error made on the Linkedin website. Neeraja Sankaran also was aware of, and did research into, pheromones when she wrote an article ?The Science Of Sex: What Is It And Who's Doing It?? for The Scientist (The Scientist, Vol:8, #6, March 21, 1994) [5]. Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude that Neeraja Sankaran could have published Dr. McKenzie's findings in the The Scientist in a March 2001 issue, but to establish this without a doubt, the magazine, in it's entirety, would have to be examined, rather than archive samples.

It is interesting to note, C. Dominique Toran-Allerand, neuroscientist at the Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons in New York, who has many studies which involve the hypothalamus, is quoted in the ?The Science Of Sex: What Is It And Who's Doing It?? article by Neeraja Sankaran.

  • [2] -
    "About the Author:....... Neeraja Sankaran is a freelance writer with training in microbiology and the history of science."
    http://www.greenwood.com/catalog/OXGENOME.aspx

    (About the Author - The Human Genome Sourcebook, by Tara Acharya, Neeraja Sankaran)
  • [3] -
    "About the Author: NEERAJA SANKARAN is a science writer and a Ph.D. student in the history of medicine and science at Yale University. /e She holds degrees in both microbiology and science writing. Sankaran has contributed articles to a number of scientific publications including The Scientist, The NCRR (National Center for Research Resources) Reporter, Annals of Internal Medicine, and Yale Medicine."
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/cka/Microbes-People-Z-Microorganisms-Lives-Neeraja-Sankaran/1573562173

    (About the Author - Microbes and People: An A-Z of Microorganisms in Our Lives, by Neeraja Sankaran)

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"2001 May: C. Dominique Toran-Allerand, Columbia University's Center for Reproductive Sciences in New York, develops model for how copulins control the male hypothalamus."

Contact Research.....

  • "C. Dominique Toran Allerand, M.D., Sc.D. h.c.
    Professor
    E-mail: [email protected]

    RESEARCH INTERESTS: Dr. Toran-Allerand studies how the steroid hormone estrogen and the neurotrophin family of growth factors interact in controlling the differentiation and survival of their target neurons in the developing CNS. These investigations test her hypothesis that estrogen is an important neurotrophic factor throughout life and that estrogen action in developing, as well as injured, diseased or aging brain regions, may involve interactions with the neurotrophins and their receptors. Understanding how estrogen influences differentiation and development in the CNS through its interactions with the neurotrophins may help explain recent findings that (i) estrogen can exert effects on higher order cognitive processes and (ii) that estrogen or its deficiency may be risk factors for the development of the sexually dimorphic disorders of cognition, such as (a) learning disabilities, (b) infantile autism, (c) delayed speech acquisition and (d) the attention deficit disorders; (e) neurodevelopmental disorders with cognitive deficits, such as schizophrenia and Turner's syndrome; and (f) neurodegenerative disorders, such as Alzheimer's disease."
    http://www.cumc.columbia.edu/dept/gs...and/index.html
It is interesting to note, C. Dominique Toran-Allerand, neuroscientist at the Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons in New York, who has many studies which involve the hypothalamus and estrogens, is quoted in the ?The Science Of Sex: What Is It And Who's Doing It?? article by Neeraja Sankaran.

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"2002 Jan: Milos Novotny, Professor of Chemistry and director of the Institute for Pheromone Research at Indiana University, opens new branch of study in copulins."

"2002 April: Dr. Novotny fired from Indiana University for "breach of protocol", in that his research was considered a liability (two male subjects attempted to sue the university after the study)."


Contact Research.....

  • "Our laboratory has long been involved with developing new high-resolution and ultra-sensitive bioanalytical separation techniques. Current research focuses on substantial improvement in resolution of complex biological mixtures and identification of the separated compounds through techniques such as electrospray mass spectrometry and matrix-assisted laser desorption/ionization mass spectrometry. ...

    Biochemically related investigations concern lipid peroxidation and its connection to the molecular mechanisms of aging and certain human diseases. For several years, our laboratory has also been active in the identification of mammalian pheromones and the biochemical aspects of olfaction. Olfactorily receptive proteins have now been isolated from mammalian tissues, and we are currently pursuing their structures, binding sites for pheromones, and the relevant molecular dynamic aspects. The membrane-bound receptor proteins are being probed for their interaction with pheromones and the consequent transmembrane signaling. Our research program gives graduate students opportunities to learn about modern analytical instrumentation and how to apply it to problems of biological significance."
    https://web.archive.org/web/20060216...ormal/499.html

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"2001 July: Copulin studies at Indiana University are removed from curriculum."

Unconfirmed, until an interview with an aforementioned researcher is conducted.



Thus concludes the document written up in 2009, and updated for 2017, into this conspiracy theory.

The characters involved in Sandra Morrishaun's story is, as you see, possible in their fields of study. However, their work does not demonstrate from their published papers that such studies exist, but as is claimed Dr. Milos Novotny's work from Indiana University was removed.. But what about C. Dominique Toran-Allerand's work from Columbia, are we to believe she had her work taken down as well? Where is the claimed research for copulins in the hypothalamus by C. Dominique Toran-Allerand's in PubChem? Did Neeraja Sankaran's publish Dr. Clancy D. McKenzie findings in the scientist?

These can be answered one of two ways:
Someone contacting these individual to get more information to confirm or deny the claims, or
Others finding the articles that were supposedly published, such as in The Scientist, 2001 by Neeraja Sankaran.
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Thanks for taking this forward. Couple of things to add. This was the original page where she described herself

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Can anyone find the college she claims to have graduated from? It is fictional.

Secondly the two March editions of the Scientist for 2001 do not have any mention of McKenzie in them. They are available in hard copy at some libraries.

Thirdly Neerja Sankaran has confirmed she knows nothing about the article from McKenzie.

Any comments really appreciated. I really woyld like to put all this to bed once and for all if we can.
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This is the reply from Neerja Sankaran

Sorry if there has been a delay in my response, but I do not know how I came to be cited about this. At first I thought it might have been a Hot Papers article but the date is all wrong.You are correct in your information about when I worked for and wrote for The Scientist. By 2001 I was a graduate student in the History of Science and was certainly not writing about this topic. In fact I know nothing about it even casually, and so am not able to help at all. I apologize for the confusion, even if it was not of my making. Sincerely Neeraja
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Thanks for taking this forward. Couple of things to add. This was the original page where she described herself

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Can anyone find the college she claims to have graduated from? It is fictional.

Secondly the two March editions of the Scientist for 2001 do not have any mention of McKenzie in them. They are available in hard copy at some libraries.

Thirdly Neerja Sankaran has confirmed she knows nothing about the article from McKenzie.

Any comments really appreciated. I really woyld like to put all this to bed once and for all if we can.
I've tried searching Whittman College in multiple browsers, looked through the colleges listed in that state from sites like CityTownInfo, searching Whittman and Whitman in yellow pages for Bedford, New Hampshire with no school results. Looking like it is a fictional school, unless it was closed down but there would still be a record of it if it had been closed. Also the National Center for Education Statistics has no accredited schools for Whittman listed in the entire US, and only one Whitman college listed for Walla Walla, Washington. If it's is a real school it's not accredited.

I'm glad you were able to find the Scientist editions and look through it as well as contact Neerja Sankara. It looks like the evidence is piling up towards this being a work of fiction.

Update: Also sent an inquiry to the University of Chicago to confirm Sandra Morrishaun's claims of employment from 1992-2000 as a professor of "Hormonology and Human Behavior", will post more when I get a response.
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