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What to do with the forum?

I also want to add something ancillary related to this discussion.

It has been inefficient, to say the least, to try to sign up new people for the enthusiast side. Both in time and money. We likely will not actively advertise or promote the enthusiast side again.

If people find it naturally and are sincere about involvement, that may be fine in very select cases. But I think we want to stay away from any activate recruitment efforts. We really do have enough people already that "get" what we want to do here. Adding and educating more seems to not be worth the effort.

Even looking at our last survey results, we see that most people just want to buy product that "works" and not actually get involved in the testing or creation of it.

There's a factor of something like 62:1 ratio of people that want basic retail over being involved in social experimentation.

That's after year upon year upon year of recruiting, and repeatedly saying that at Direct feedback means more than $.

The efforts have not been fruitless, but for the amount of effort necessary, it is sort of sad that we don't have more people on the experimenter's side of the equation.

Even though we anticipate having no more than 800 people initially in Lab, we may be able to make room for slightly more if someone does show extreme & very sincere interest in experimenting. Perhaps 1000 or 1200 ultimately before it begins to lose that intimate environment that was so important making the early days of Direct.

We just need to make sure each slot is filled very, very carefully this time around. We really cannot afford the time, money and effort it takes to mix people with consumer intentions into the test group.

And from the other post:

Lastly, if you're one of our few diehard experimenters that likes to report their mixes and progress, we hope you'll be able to enjoy the new "Androtics Lab" site much later this year. PPS - Androtics Lab will be the only website we operate ourselves in the future. It will eventually take the place of Direct, but exclusively for 800 of the people who gave the most usable feedback.

Labs may take awhile to launch. We need to simplify and modernize as much of this operation as possible in to be in tune with 2018 realities. And boy, are things different now than they were back in the mid-2000s and earlier.

Importantly, we need as many high functioning "veteran workers" as possible to make the new Lab project possible, as they know the needs of the experimenters and research community best.
So Brian was talking about only Androtics Labs thats for the experimenters and research community that likes to report quality feedback on their mixes and progress. The store at is for everyone and open now and there is another licensee that will sell androtics stuff like ammo and experimones non customized to everyone they posted but that also isnt open yet.

Originally Posted by Conjurator View Post
If I may ask, why is there nothing about all this in the official announcement section of the forum?
Q: What do you call a deer with no eyes?
A: No Eye Deer!

Dee just said isnt going to be posting updates on the forum only on their site apparently and jasmin seems to be posting infrequently and working on the backlog.

Originally Posted by unknown0001 View Post
Am I on that list? I started in 2010 and became a regular tester soon afterwards. Then they made me an experimental tester. Will there be an email sen out?
That message from Brian sent to the entire direct user base suggested all prior direct customers in good standing like you would be early adopters and Dee said the forum emails were copied at least. Much was given the discount he said in another thread, so I would just ask if you havent gotten an email and want to place an order as a former direct user to make sure you get on the list properly. Unless something is posted otherwise. Labs is a different thing with only certain users who are interested in the testing and reporting from what they posted.

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