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Old May 17th, 2018, 07:24 PM   #1
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Default A314 original Vs. A314 Stealth

I've had no luck finding comparisons of A314 to the stealth version. never really had a problem with the scented version so if the effects are any less or strangely different i would shy away from what i have no experience with. Any thoughts or comments? has anyone tested them both out for comparison?
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Default Re: A314 original Vs. A314 Stealth

The pheromone blend is the same in both. The difference is of course any added features of the added scent packages. Stealth has enhanced diffusion effects which would be beneficial for an oil to let it potentially hit faster and further away or potentially start diffusing and working faster. It could also be potentially beneficial if you want to use A314 somewhere where normal cologne scents would be frowned upon and can be used without added cologne. You can still add your own cologne as well. The scented version is a akuto base which the musk in it can contribute a bit of attraction from that. Musk seems to hit women like androstenone and works better around ovulation just like androstenone . Both should be at the new store at androtics.com whenever they may be able to open it and start shipping again. There is no update/eta posted at this time.
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Default Re: A314 original Vs. A314 Stealth

I'm going to be starting a bottle of Stealth in the next few days, so I will post back when I've formed an opinion.

However, I've found Stealth offered excellent diffusion in other AD putatives/products.
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Default Re: A314 original Vs. A314 Stealth

Hi Mobocaster,

I look forward to hearing your opinion. Normally I personally would choose things that enhance diffusion with most product as diffusion to get the molecules in the air to the target obviously is a big key to results. When there is lack of heat such as its too cold, or the molecules are not diffusing well is a main reason that products dont perform as you know very well.

So its interesting that in recent time A314 has been reported to hit a bit stronger then the past earlier revisions. People tend to use it in combo with buffers more these days to lessen the impact rather then solo for example, and why the oil version which slows diffusion is quite popular with this particular product. When its made in alcohol they even use less pheromones to lessen the impact to adjust for alcohols property to hit harder and faster. And this makes me wonder if the enhanced diffusion of stealth in this particular oil version would possibly further make it hit too fast or hard and might need some adjustment similar to the alcohol version... It just would require using more buffers in combo otherwise no big issue if that was the case, but again, look forward to see what you find. I do know that you personally said you need more androstenone /androsterone so I think should have better luck with stealth then others who need a bit less impact due to high natural phero levels with the higher impact adding too much to their baseline.
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Default Re: A314 original Vs. A314 Stealth

My main concern with stealth is that it may not be as effective at controlling breakdown smell compared to other diffusion packages - Rone and None are two that can be at the stronger end of the spectrum and so far the putatives/products I've tried in stealth have not been ones that present any particular problem there.

I need my A314 to be effective and controlled right across the working day - sometimes that's pretty long days, with limited options for refresh/top-up/re-cover so the cover/diffusion package needs to be subtle but effective in the longer term.

For a shorter-term/targeted application like nights-out/dates etc, I don't doubt at all that stealth will be viable.
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I have stealth Ammo and Tuth , as well as in Tac and P86 . The longevity is about the same with the stealth ammo and works just as well as the scented one, longevity should not be an concern with A314 . As far as scent, yes for product with Androstenone or Andosterone like ammo and tuth and a314 , stealth really should be used if possible with another cover scent for best results as it is not even designed to mask that completely but masks most other molecules well, heres what they said:

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For v1.0 of the stealth package, we decided to go without fragrance neutralizers, which could help to counteract the scent of the pheromones themselves. This is because these neutralizers tend to have quite a bit of scent on their own. We've found that today's scent neutralization additives also remove a remarkable effect the Stealth v1.0 package has: It elevates any fragrance you use it with, including your own natural, human scent
That?s right. It's like what really good sea salt, olive oil, butter and truffles do to food. Or like MSG without the headaches. It actually combines with both human and synthetic scent molecules and takes them to the next level, making them smell far more rich and luxurious. Elevating them. This was originally an unintended side effect! But as it?s sort of mind boggling (in a good way), we decided to go full force with it

Thats why I generally prefer stealth for its diffusion and then just add another cover scent with androstenone for example. In the case of A314 however not sure, the essential oils/musk is a nice scent package that covers well, and I'm not sure personally how the stealth would effect further impact as the scented oil impacts hard already to where most prefer to use with IS or IH for example to buffer. It would just lead to more buffers needed possibly.

I asked Brian in December if they could work on a different stealth version for Androstenone , especially since the scent of androstenone to some women is quite urinous based on their genetics when not around ovulation. Its something they can work on eventually but he said not right away. This being before whatever current issues are as well.
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Default Re: A314 original Vs. A314 Stealth

It's basically the same. Although my scented one is Royale and my R32 is Stealth, both have are effective and served me well.

The only difference is that the Stealth R32 makes me a strict alpha/boss alpha (I don't give tips to waiters/waitresses that have not met my desired service, for example), and Royale makes me a generous Alpha. Both A314 helped me a lot with my taxi fares too.

Everytime I ride a taxi, with A314 on, my driver always return my change. Without A314 on, they don't bother.
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Default Re: A314 original Vs. A314 Stealth

Day one of Stealth - All went pretty well, maybe a little breakdown smell by the end of the day but that was only noticeable after a fairly heavy physio session and sitting out in a cafe in the hot late afternoon sun.

One interesting thing/hit - Earlier in the day, I was at a meeting where the tasks for our upcoming little festival were being divvied-up. I backed-out being one of the organisers a few years back but I still lend my services freely if they need me and just enjoy the free pass to the whole the event. Anyway, when it came to the session on "Modern Leadership" - I was the first and only choice to host it - Nobody demurred..!
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Default Re: A314 original Vs. A314 Stealth

After running Stealth for five days solid, I must say my initial impressions are wholly favourable.

It is a more forward/present/stricter/less laid-back feel compared to recent Revs, which probably has a lot to do with diffusion as I noticed a lot of the hits were very fast and my competence and ability to "save the day" were fully recognised.

However, it may well benefit from a cover for day to day use as I did find it was struggling smell-wise after around six/seven hours on two of the hottest days - although there were also my most active and TBH, any phero would be struggling to remain covered in those conditions.

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