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Old May 23rd, 2008, 01:45 PM   #1
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This is taken directly out of my journal. I'm looking to answers for the questions at the bottom of my post...

4 sprays of Instant Female Magic
3 sprays of IS
2 sprays of Instant Honesty
2 sprays of p79 (unscented)

all the above worn around the back and sides of my neck.

To cut a long story short....

Later that evening we head out to a pub in the city where a friend of ours was having a farewell as she was leaving to go back home to Italy later this week. I turn up with my girlfriend and we start dancing to the band. italian friend is very touchy-feely with me as well, but then again she's normally always like this. I never re-applied any pheromones since this morining application.. My girlfriend is really into me dancing with me body to body on the dance floor. She is a lot smilier and happier than the last week. Then she goes to the bathroom, comes back and we cut out the dancing, instead we just stand and watch the band, holding hands she is standing to mt left. On my right are strangers, a guys who is there on his own and then next to him are 2 very stunning young blonde girls. I catch the blonde girl look over at me and check me out. Our eyes meet and she shly turns away. This happens a second time. At this point I'm saying to myself "damn, why do these things only happen when my girlfriend is with me?" She then opens a conversation with the guy standing in between us. She looks like she's up for acrtion tonight. Not sure whether that guy stole my pheromone cloud, but it certainly felt like it at that time. Out of the corner of eye I see them chatting for around 5 minutes before 2 guys she knows turn up and drag her and her friend away.

I go home confused as to how, if I applied the pheromones 9 hours or so earlier in the day, did I still get the effects later that evening. So the questions I then wished to pose were:

A) Was it just a residual effect?
B) If it's not a residual effect, which of the Androstadienone or P79 was the stickier substance that hung around all day on my skin giving me a long-lasting effect?
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Hmmmm - 9 hours - that is a tough one.

I think we as a community are still sorting out P79 to some extent although many seem to describe it as an intensifier. I have used it a little but do not really have a good feel for it yet myself.

It really sounds like you got residuals off of the IFM and/or Instant Shine - maybe if enough got in your hair which would make it stick around longer - or perhaps on your clothes. The P79 could have intensified the effect - but it is the time span that throws me. Not sure if P79 would lengthen the effects besides "intensifying" them.

Maybe she was just into you. You could have also had the "social proof" thing going via your girlfriend.
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Old May 24th, 2008, 12:20 AM   #3
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My immediate reaction is to say that you had "social proofing" from your gf, but I actually wanted to comment on p79 .

I don't really see p79 as an intensifier. I think that's more like TAFs role (like OCD intenseness...) p79 is more like 'drive'. It probably one of the closer molecules to 'liquid motivation', IMO.
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Interesting take Phya. Thanks for the input. Like I said - I have never really taken the time to figure it out. I know Renny is playing with it right now. My only information is some of the early reporting rom back when. Maybe I should give it a try on chore day or just before some martial arts.
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A couple posts regarding p79 's drive from my journal.

http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-jo...tml#post120436

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Didn't go with Instant Gentleman + p93 . I wanted to get a good strong feel for the p93 so I put on 50mcg of it.

I was an impatient guy that day. I had to be a back seat driver, but I felt like I was just trippin too hard about the traffic and I just wanted to get around it. I REALLY hate traffic though (who doesn't though?), I'll go the long way, so long as there's no traffic. So I was like, take the left, yea, just take it, go for it. Light turns red, so I'm like, nevermind, just make the right, it's cool, it's open, go ahead, etc...eventually I just declared that I'm going to shut myself up. I hated how I was sounding and probably would have punched myself in the face. :P

But I got a lot done.

As soon as I get into the office, hit the phones right away. Calling places back frequently and just buzz, buzz, buzz.

As for hits, nothing exceptional I think. p93 with p79 is a goodie for getting work done too. p93 is that mental drive to get it planned out and the p79 is the physical drive to get it done. I'm not sure I could handle that combo with any TAF if the TAF will do to the p93 what it does to the p79. Eh..looks like I'm just gonna have to try it.
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Small update on the p93 + p79 combo. I wore 25mcgs of p93 and 15mcgs of p79 .

I was driving a van filled with marketing materials and such to a concert where my company had put up a booth for one of our clients. I stopped at the parking check but ignored the security guard (I sort of saw him after accelerating I figured what the hell). Parked it, called my boss. The guard walked up to my window and asked me what I was doing, etc..I told him why I was there and he gave me a pass and asked me to repark the van a bit over.

Shortly after reparking the van, I saw my boss and he told me to just drive the van straight up to the booth. I was about to, but a taxi pulled up and blocked the driveway. I was worried he was waiting for someone, so as soon as he got out I shouted to him, "yo, you can't park there, I gotta get through." He took his time letting his passengers out. During that time a truck backed up from another direction into the pathway first and started unpacking boxes. I watched and waited as the guy unloaded. Got into my truck ready to back up as soon as he left. He didn't so I walked up and told him, "I apologize if I'm being impatient, but I'm on a schedule like you, so could you move your truck?" He of course, immediately does so. I back up the van and unload it in half the time it took to load it. Granted, I actually had a little bit of help this time around...

After that, I just took off to go get a tattoo.

So it was definitely go-go-go! Zeph, if you're reading this, yes it sounds like a marine. Tight schedule, everything needs to be perfect before thousands of spectators show up for the concert and everyone is in each other's way. I think the environment was conducive to the overall vibe I felt as well, so it should be taken into consideration. However, given the antsy-ness I felt with 50mcg of p93 or TAF + p79, I think it was better that I was in a fast-paced environment, otherwise I might have driven myself batty in a slow, quiet office.
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Thanks for the responses guys

yeah, the social proofing thing is something I completely overlooked, and may explain some of this too, but it's possible that the stickyness of the pheromones or the residual effect may have also enhanced the effect and played the part.

Phya, your comments on P79 combined with P93 are very interesting to me. I have worn P79 together with MX203 on a couple of occassions, and I know MX203 is mainly made up of P93 . I noticed that when I wore this combination I didn't really feel the same way as you described. instead, the feeling I got was almost as if my brained was totally "numbed". I couldn't think straight and I became so reserved that I was refraining from chatting with anyone, even a really good mate of mine who was out with me at the time. And when out together we can normally talk and talk and talk, but when I wore p79 with MX203 I felt like I didn't want to talk to anyone. I was almost what I'd call the total "anti-social" type. I remember wearing it around a cute swedish waitress, and normally I'm all flirty with cute waitresses, but when I wore that combo I as totally lost for words and couldn't really open my mouth. I felt heaviness, or "numbed" in my head and was also, from memory just slighty irritable. I do remember that combination feeling very weird, until I sprayed some IS and IO over the top and started to act my like my normal self again.
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Maybe you should give yourself more credit. It's hard not to attribute hits to pheros, but you can't always give pheros credit either. You're just that special guy that attracts others.
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Phya, your comments on P79 combined with P93 are very interesting to me. I have worn P79 together with MX203 on a couple of occassions, and I know MX203 is mainly made up of P93. I noticed that when I wore this combination I didn't really feel the same way as you described. instead, the feeling I got was almost as if my brained was totally "numbed". I couldn't think straight and I became so reserved that I was refraining from chatting with anyone, even a really good mate of mine who was out with me at the time. And when out together we can normally talk and talk and talk, but when I wore p79 with MX203 I felt like I didn't want to talk to anyone. I was almost what I'd call the total "anti-social" type.
According to Tisha, MX203 is heavy Alpha Androstenol , TAK and P93.
http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-ph...tml#post108570

And also, because I keep throwing this link around everywhere mx203's contents is pondered, I'd like to know if anyone else, or if Tisha wouldn't mind double checking , can confirm mx203 being heavy a -nol , TAK and p93 ?

The 'anti-social' behavior could be attributed to the TAK . This thread in particular discusses TAK 's disassociative properties. p79 for me, as I said is like a 'drive'. In conjunction with TAK , could there be a 'drive' to chill out/disconnect/drift off into own dreamland?

http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-ph...ation-109.html

Examine described TAK as if a blunt had been passed around. Being stoned could be referred to as being 'mentally numb', I suppose.

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I remember wearing it around a cute swedish waitress, and normally I'm all flirty with cute waitresses, but when I wore that combo I as totally lost for words and couldn't really open my mouth. I felt heaviness, or "numbed" in my head and was also, from memory just slighty irritable. I do remember that combination feeling very weird, until I sprayed some IS and Instant Openness over the top and started to act my like my normal self again.
Incidentally, your experience reminds me of a night where I experienced similar behavior. I was wearing mx203, p79 , and some IS, there may have been a touch of something else, but I doubt it. Anyway, I sort of felt discombobulated for a bit. Had a cute girl sitting in my lap, but then I sort of just got up and left once the blunt was done. And trust me, a blunt won't make me forget about a cute girl sitting in my lap, no matter how bomb the bud is. Actually, usually, if anything, it'll make me more aware of the girl.
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TAK hey??

It's only now that you mention it I've researched it, as I had not read much about it on these forums up until now.

It's also nice to know what I'm getting when I'm putting MX203 on. I read someone else saying MX203 is mostly P93 with a little Instant Shine , however after reading the post by Tisha this seems just a little off the mark.

After reading that thread on TAK and re-examining my experiences on MX203 + P79 you may have a point about the TAK affecting me in the MX203 more than it normally would without any P79 in the mix.

Wouldn't mind trying out examine's TAK , TAH , TAL , TAA combination if I can get my hands on all of them.
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According to Tisha, MX203 is heavy Alpha Androstenol , TAK and P93.
http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-ph...tml#post108570

And also, because I keep throwing this link around everywhere mx203's contents is pondered, I'd like to know if anyone else, or if Tisha wouldn't mind double checking , can confirm mx203 being heavy a -nol , TAK and p93 ?

The 'anti-social' behavior could be attributed to the TAK . This thread in particular discusses TAK 's disassociative properties. p79 for me, as I said is like a 'drive'. In conjunction with TAK , could there be a 'drive' to chill out/disconnect/drift off into own dreamland?

http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-ph...ation-109.html

Examine described TAK as if a blunt had been passed around. Being stoned could be referred to as being 'mentally numb', I suppose.



Incidentally, your experience reminds me of a night where I experienced similar behavior. I was wearing mx203, p79 , and some IS, there may have been a touch of something else, but I doubt it. Anyway, I sort of felt discombobulated for a bit. Had a cute girl sitting in my lap, but then I sort of just got up and left once the blunt was done. And trust me, a blunt won't make me forget about a cute girl sitting in my lap, no matter how bomb the bud is. Actually, usually, if anything, it'll make me more aware of the girl.
funny seeing that thread posted again that felt like so long ago, wow have i learn't so much in such a short time =)

I will not forget that day though, what a learning experience.


I actually tried to order a bottle of p93 in my last huge order, and was expecting it but never received it, got a note was out of stock, and found out might be out for a while unfortunately according to April. I was hoping to be able to tweak my MX203 a bit.

did some playing around tonight with TAK + p123 and just updated my journal with a report


http://www.pheromonetalk.com/pheromo...024-post3.html
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