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Old March 20th, 2017, 03:18 AM   #1
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Default 200% money back guarantee?

Im definitely that guy who sends things back and OTT complains when something doesnt work. Order a medium rare steak and it comes medium or it comes rare it goes back in an instant, if it comes medium rare then someone is in for a nice tip.

As Im waiting for the 1st order to arrive and reading the forum and site in as much detail as I can I picked up on somethng that I would say is a massive red flag for the 200% money back guarantee. Its either bad copy or carefully written copy to make things wishy washy, check this out:

On this page: https://www.androticsdirect.com/ it says:

Smart people buy Smart Pheromones. They really work! That's why we offer the first and only 200% Money Back Guarantee on your first purchase. We take all the risk, to absolutely prove to you these products are real.

When you look at details of this offer on this page: https://www.androticsdirect.com/pages.php?pageid=5 it states:

Just use our products for a year. If you don't see any reactions in that time, just contact us for help. Sometimes a little social training is all you need for success. If you still don't see any reactions after getting help, send the empty bottles back with a note detailing what happened at least 7 times you used them, and we'll give you double your money back.

That's right... double your money back if they don't produce results!


So - if you buy a starter kit which costs say $125 with discounts and gift vouchers etc and you get 8 trial products, I havent used these and I dont know how much use you would get out of them but I am assuming, as you need to actively test them, they might last 8 weeks (total guess).

To take advantage of the 200% refund you need to use the products for a year so you are going to have to buy loads more stuff but the guarantee is only on the 1st order so you are going to end up seriously out of pocket if you want to take up this offer.

Am I just a cynic?!
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Old March 20th, 2017, 07:08 AM   #2
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I also felt very fishy when I ordered my first batch 2 years before - trust me - now I have almost half of the products. AD works on trust, in my last order I forgot to include a product worth 120 $, I mailed the team and they sent me the product without any payment from my side and later I transferred the amount.

They offer a 200% cash back because they know their products work - when its used properly and when people understand what mones can do and what not.

I had seen few people claiming it didn t work for them, mostly this happen when they don t follow the basics. You need to find your sweet spot and which mones work for you best. Age, Climate, Atmosphere, The target, your personality, Ethnicity, everything matters when it come to mones . Its pure science NOT magic.

You can t use 3 spray of Tuth in a funeral or church and claim its not working. Each phero is meant for a specific situation and atmosphere.

Also not every target will respond well for phero. There are few no matter what phero you use, will not behave the way you want . I had a target who never gave any signs even after using almost all known combination - :-(, She was in deep love with someone else - Its not always possible to break that kind of love with pheros.

Phero is just an add-on. You should have your game and skills.
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Old March 20th, 2017, 07:41 AM   #3
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Yep I get everything you said completely but the thing I dont like is that they have "200% money back guarantee" all over the place but then when you look it is only 200% money back on your 1st order and you will only get that 200% back if you were to keep buying more stuff for the rest of the year.

For lack of a better analogy and because its a niche I know I will use bodybuilding as a comparison.

It is like a company selling a weight lifting supplement for $150 and saying if you dont like it you can have 200% of your money back, so you buy it and use it all up in a month. It doesnt work for you, you see no benefit and would like the 200% back, however, in order to get that back you need to keep using the products for a year. So you need to buy more stuff off this company for another 11 months. I am nor sure anyone would try something for a month, see no results and then keep buying it for another 11 months so that they could get the money back on the 1st month.

Month 1 buy a kit for $150 and use it up in 8 weeks, it doesnt work for you and you want to take advantage of the 200% refund so, having decided it doesnt work for you, in order to take up this offer if you keep using it at the same rate you need to spend another 5 kits which = $750 more additional spend in order to get back the money ONLY for your 1st offer.

Im not grumbling that the products dont work but I am highlighting that the offer off 200% money back basically has a caveat which makes renders it useless for a consumer if they did want to take it up.

Spend $150, potential max refund here is $ 300 but only if you spend another $750 1st using this example.

I know most people wont read beyond the headline of "200% money back" and it is a massive marketing statement, however, for anyone who does look into it in more detail and picks up on the things I have highlighted above probably finds the offer more suspicious than reassuring.
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I've never availed myself of the 200% guarantee, so I can't comment directly but every other customer service issue I have had to raise with AD has been expedited efficiently - and the generosity of GCs etc given to cover things like leaked in transit products/replacements and the like does convince me they mean it.
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I'd say 4 years back their packaging was prone to the 'hold' pressures of the cargo planes they use (DHL), so much so, that I had a lovely encounter from the DHL delivery driver telling me it was illegal to ship alcohol based products in their aircraft. A little bit of research; and on the next order, same guy, I handed him his own company's rules on shipping perfumes/alcohol based products - Never got a problem with him after that, lol!!

Packaging now is in sealed bags and bubble wrap, not one leakage!! I have had customs do a random check a few times, they can and they do, bare it in mind; and I think they try it out (Always seems to be the TUTH for some reason!!) as you can tell that the contents has been sprayed - bottle is slightly lower in liquid; and the packaging is strong in scent, but that's something that doesn't happen too often, thankfully!! You'll always know if they have checked your parcel, as it will be covered in 'Customs' tape, bright orange in colour and stating that it was opened and checked by them!

I've only ever had one shipment go walkies by the courier firm; and AD were pretty darn quick to sort it out and replace the entire order at no cost to me! I really can't fault them. If you have a problem, send them a contact message from the main storefront, mark it with the correct department; and have a little patience on waiting for a reply, as they've working voluntary night and day from what I gather to answer all your questions; and they really do sort out anything, help you, guide you on anything you need to ask/change! I get a better delivery service from AD/DHL than I do from Royal Mail/TNT, says a lot really!! Sure, I'd love to be able to see a map tracker for DHL so I can see where the courier is when out for delivery, but that's not down to AD, they just hand over the parcel in good faith that it will reach us; and it does always reach us!

Can understand what you're suggesting with the 200% guarantee, but really, can't see you using it!

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What I would do is test everything in the kit you ordered before you make another and see what you think. I would start a journal in the men`s section and put some of your experience in there and this way you can document your progress and look back and see what was your best dose and so on, plus it will cover you in case you don`t get what you are looking for out of these things.

The one that made me believe when I was 27 or 28 was IShine . I spray 2 sprays to my neck and right away I thought this is "happiness in a bottle" and the rest is history.

Just think of your goals and environment you will be using them to get the most out of them. I would not use TUTH in a work or church setting typically as it would not go well, but Ammo could be a option. This is what you will need to think about to get the most out of things.
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What I would do is test everything in the kit you ordered before you make another and see what you think. I would start a journal in the men`s section and put some of your experience in there and this way you can document your progress and look back and see what was your best dose and so on, plus it will cover you in case you don`t get what you are looking for out of these things.

The one that made me believe when I was 27 or 28 was IShine . I spray 2 sprays to my neck and right away I thought this is "happiness in a bottle" and the rest is history.

Just think of your goals and environment you will be using them to get the most out of them. I would not use TUTH in a work or church setting typically as it would not go well, but Ammo could be a option. This is what you will need to think about to get the most out of things.
All roads seem to lead to Ammo with me, it seems like the best option for everything either as part of a mix or on its own. From reading around I get the feeling the general opinion is that A314 is the backbone for most people so Im intreagued by that too.

Ill definitely keep a log on the forum when I get into it
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With the journals it helps you track your own progress on what works and what doesn't. There will be times you put together something and it does not work and this is ok and you can look back at that. Plus others will be watching and offer there advice and opinions to help you out to. You are always more than welcome to check my journal out and leave any and all feedback. I actually have learned a lot from newer members as well as they usually have fresh ideas that I have not thought of myself.
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Default Re: 200% money back guarantee?

I have also never used the money back guarantee, since every order from Androtics have fully lived up to it's promises.

I WILL say, however, that I have been on the receiving end of above-and-beyond customer service, not once but SEVERAL times from the AD staff!

I wouldn't worry if I were you (but I'm not and I know the price point can seem steep for something you still haven't experienced the effects of.. but for what it's worth, AD's products have always delivered for me.)
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